Riot In Tottenham After Protest At Mark Duggan's Killing By Police

First Posted: 06/08/11 23:32 BST Updated: 06/10/11 11:12 BST   PA

Tottenham Protest

PRESS ASSOCIATION -- Eight police officers are being treated in hospital following riots which broke out two days after a man was shot dead by police.

Scotland Yard said at least one of the officers had suffered head injuries after protesters clashed with police in Tottenham, north London.

Trouble flared after members of the community took to the streets to demand "justice", after Mark Duggan, 29, was shot dead by police on Thursday.

The riots saw buildings and vehicles set alight, including two patrol cars, a police van and a double-decker bus, and shops looted as police in riot gear arrived on the scene.

Hundreds of people gathered in the street, including mounted police, as smoke poured into the air from the lighted bus. Fire engines descended on the area and thunderflashes were thrown at police on horseback.

After sections of Tottenham High Road were cleared of protesters, "pockets of trouble" continued to flare in nearby areas, a Scotland Yard spokesman said.

Two vans were reported to have been set ablaze in nearby Rheola Close, and Sky News said that its reporter and cameraman had to withdraw from the area over safety fears.

There were also reports of looting in Tottenham Hale Retail Park.

A spokeswoman for London Ambulance Service said paramedics had treated 10 people, and nine were taken to hospital.

The violence erupted after around 120 people marched from the local Broadwater Farm area to Tottenham police station, forcing officers to close the High Road and put traffic diversions in place.

After night fell, two police cars parked about 200 yards from the police station were set upon. Later a bus was set on fire at the junction of the High Road and Brook Street, which belched black smoke out into the air and was clearly going to be completely burnt out.

Rioters were also kicking in windows down the High Road and hundreds of people were gathered in the street including mounted police as smoke poured into the air.

Police formed lines outside Tottenham Police Station and, armed with riot shields, marched down the road to clear the immediate area of protesters. At one point a protester ran in from a side road and hurled a petrol bomb at the officers.

A local woman, who declined to give her name, said: "There's a theory going on that the man who was shot had dropped his gun, but they still shot him. I'm hearing that most of the shops in the High Road are being burgled and robbed."

A building along the High Road, near the junction with Stoneleigh Road, was well alight, presumably having been set on fire by the rioters. Police advanced along the road with their riot shields, driving the rioters back.

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PRESS ASSOCIATION -- Eight police officers are being treated in hospital following riots which broke out two days after a man was shot dead by police. Scotland Yard said at least one of the officer...
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09:12 AM on 08/10/2011
"Riots are about power, and they are about catharsis. They are not about poor parenting, or youth services being cut, or any of the other snap explanations that media pundits have been trotting out: structural inequalities, as a friend of mine remarked today, are not solved by a few pool tables. People riot because it makes them feel powerful, even if only for a night. People riot because they have spent their whole lives being told that they are good for nothing, and they realise that together they can do anything – literally, anything at all."

SOURCE: http://www.alternet.org/world/151952/british_riots%3A_elites_%22shocked%22_the_poor_are_rising_up_against_brutal_austerity_measures/?page=2

Seriously, stop the racist and youth discrimination bullshit.
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05:40 AM on 08/10/2011
"You can't keep on oppressing people"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQHWwEpwAY&feature=player_embedded
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08:45 AM on 08/09/2011
The Citizens of Britain had enough – “Queen and PM must go”
Popular uprisings in Britain has begun, and like everywhere in the world, the first response of the government is to try and crush the revolt by force. In the case of the UK, using horses, helicopters, riot police and other aggressive methods.
Crushing democracy is unacceptable – the Queen and Cameron has lost all legitimacy and must go!
Everyone wakes up asking “WHY?” after witnessing London, Birmingham, Manchester, Nottingham, Liverpool and all other major metropolitan areas being flooded with anarchy.
Here is WHY:
The government has led by example. Not too long ago, we have all heard the experts who think they rule the world barking out orders that “Mubarak must go” – “Ben Ali must go” – “Gaddafi must go” when these leaders tried to restore order in their countries.
We have then moved to the point of demonstrating to our citizens that we as a society has NO values and NO respect by bombing schools, hospitals, television stations etc. in Libya to join ruthless rebels in overthrowing a government trying to restore peace and order.
The very same “winds of change” is now blowing in Britain, these winds of change we thought would enable us to colonise more places in the modern day and age through our ruthless behaviour and false media. Britain finally has a real opportunity to be free from oppressors who ruled for so long with an iron fist covered in satin!
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12:11 AM on 08/09/2011
Anybody want to buy a laptop?
11:58 PM on 08/08/2011
At least we don't do things by halves ;-)
07:58 PM on 08/08/2011
I always think it's odd when people blame the government for not providing enough youth centres and initiatives to keep kids off the streets. Even the government itself feels responsible for keeping youths busy. WHY? What happened to the responsibility of parents to make sure their kids are home by a certain time, go to school, read etc? What about the kids themselves having enough sense and desire for a good future to keep away from criminal activity?

There were no youth centres near me growing up, my father died whilst I was young and we were relatively poor immigrants when we first came to the UK, but I stayed in school, stayed away from bad friends (thanks to my mother's intervention) read books and went to university.

Is it a symptom of our socialist society in the UK that puts the onus on the government to mother these children? As far as I'm concerned, each family is responsible for the well-being of its young and each young person knows wrong from right. In a world of free libraries, free schooling, more Black role models including a Black US president (what could be better than that?!) and more opportunities to educate and better yourself thanks to the internet, Black kids have no excuse, they just need more sense and better parenting.

Poverty is no excuse for bad behaviour, and the politically correct media should stop absolving these kids of their responsibilties by telling them it's not their fault!
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12:10 AM on 08/09/2011
I totally agree. We grew up poor as well, but it never entered our minds that it's ok to burn another person's property. Stuff they worked hard to get. It is down to parenting.
03:56 AM on 08/09/2011
I still don't understand why everyone is blaming young people when the article doesn't mention any young people...
02:31 PM on 08/09/2011
Ever seen senior citizens riot till 5am? There have been pictures too of guys in 'trendy' clothing.
I think deductive reasoning, while it may be too broad to use when looking for hard evidence, can still be used for a general indication....
03:28 PM on 08/13/2011
Over half of those arrested were between 14-21 years of age, about 30% were employed professionals. Those charged came from every ethnic group and socio-economic background. It is interesting to note that across the country parents have been reporting their children for involvement in the riots and handing them over to the authorities. My sources are a number of relatives in the UK including some who work in theh various services who are involved. With regards to the man whose death was the catalyst for the riots...the bullet found in the Police radio was from a police gun, the gun found in the back of the taxi was not a police gun, hand not been fired and did not have Duggan's fingerprints on it. So it suggests that the police screwed up and then tried to cover up. However, this does not excuse destroying your community and harming your neighbours. My sources are a number of relatives in the UK including some who work in theh various services who are involved and UK news reports.
07:38 PM on 08/08/2011
Question, Does Britain even have a country anymore?
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12:51 AM on 08/12/2011
England, thank you. Scotland, Wales, NI and the Islands are all peaceful.
06:57 PM on 08/08/2011
Greece, Tunisia, Egypt, Vancouver... Now a new riot in London... Are all these riots a symptom of a world that is finally getting sick and tired of bullshit?

Yes, Violence is rarely a solution to any problem, and when it is the ONLY option, it is just a short-term "solution", a means to enable a better way. But it is a symptom of what's going on...

A little background on England... it's the most watched country in the world (tons of cameras everywhere), the cost of living is very high and living conditions are often not that great. Wealth is very concentrated at the top, most people have to work a lot to barely survive and their "social safety net" is very stressed. Yes, this big riot happened in a not so good neighborhood, but why does England has such neighborhood in the first place? And how many more people are living in this neighborhood since late 2008?

“Poverty is the mother of crime.”
— Marcus Aurelius
08:10 PM on 08/08/2011
"... the cost of living is very high and living conditions are often not that great. Wealth is very concentrat­ed at the top, most people have to work a lot to barely survive and their "social safety net" is very stressed."

Gosh, thanks for the insight. If you hadn't told me I would ever have known - and I live in England...

Quite a lot of ill-informed tosh, there.
09:00 PM on 08/08/2011
Oh yeah? Well, then please enlighten me about your wonderful life in England! Because that is certainly not what I heard.
09:05 PM on 08/08/2011
These people in Tottenham certainly don't seem very happy... and I wonder why places like these exist to begin with... Since everything is so great, how come such a place exist? Wouldn't you expect everything to be swell and all rosy?
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04:28 AM on 08/09/2011
Vancouver? Come on... everyone knows that was just from losing the Stanley Cup finals. It wasn't about race or starting a civil war like Tunisia and Egypt. You're talking apples and oranges there, give it a rest and look it up before going on one of your rants again.
10:05 PM on 08/09/2011
I will kindly invite you to read this :)

http://www.straight.com/article-399635/vancouver/vancouver-hockey-riot-symptom-larger-problem
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04:19 PM on 08/08/2011
History has shown us how this all plays out. There will be a public inquiry which will exonerate the police officer (justifiably so) - after which there will of course be more riots and accusations of a cover-up, the government will appoint a Race Relations Czar to oversee the interaction between police and the "local community", the police will have to undergo extra "racial sensitivity" training, and the local community will be rewarded with a new public works building such as a new community centre or bowling alley (last time it was a swimming pool).
04:04 AM on 08/08/2011
"The places we used to give young people something to do have gone. If they’ve been taken away how do we get to young people? How do we stop them rioting if there’s nowhere for them to go?”"

This confirms that the police didnt cause any animosity and that the rioters are bored wild animals. No video game arcade? Lets riot! Youth didnt have much to do where I grew up and everyone was poor yet we never burned the whole neighborhood down while attacking innocent people. Our idea of a good time was a camping trip in the woods over a weekend, these kids honestly claim they need special services to keep them from destroying the whole city? ABSURD!

I have a solution. Next time a wild animal gets caught with a petrol bomb the police should use any and all means to neutralize the situation. If the wild animal lives he should be charged as a terrorist bomber right along with arson and attempted murder. If they mob assault someone they should be charged with attempted murder. If they appear to be leading a riot they should be charged as domestic terrorists.

Let us see how worked up they allow themselves to get after seeing other feral youth suffer real consequences. They do what they do now because society doesnt allow the police or the system to really punish them. If I were growing up now I would rob banks every 15 minutes until I turned 18.
05:29 PM on 08/08/2011
Wow!
10:30 PM on 08/08/2011
No. This confirms people, and specially young people, have nothing to live for anymore. Btw, where in this whole article "young people" is mentioned? I happen to be "young" and I find that kind of discrimination very insulting.
12:37 AM on 08/09/2011
"No. This confirms people, and specially young people, have nothing to live for anymore." There is everything and more to aim towards for young people regardless of who's given them what. Most people will never know what they are capable of for what ever reason, but it does not change the opportunities for those who do.
09:25 PM on 08/07/2011
Consider these:

John Charles De Menezes, a man with a regular job, no criminal record, was unarmed. Shot dead because he looked like a suspect. After his killing no mass arson of vehicles, shops and private homes. No petrol bombs thrown at police. No mass theft of luxury items from shops in the area. No list of excuses for what followed, because there was no rioting, no arson, no mass looting.

Mark Duggan was known to be a criminal. He was in a taxi police were following. He ran off. Someone had a gun. A police officer was shot, his radio saving him from possibly also being killed. Duggan was shot dead by a policeman. Instead of waiting for the facts to be made public, a mass march took place from where Duggan lived to the local police station. Almost all of those marching had no connection with Duggan, apart living near him. As night fell - so identification would prove to be almost impossible - mass arson, mass thefts, attacks on the police, and destruction of vehicles and private property, homes and shops began. The next day the excuses – poor area, large number of jobless people, social deprivation, etc – as if these justify mass arson, mass theft, attacks on police.

Have I missed anything out? Perhaps John Charles De Menezes was Brazilian, had come to this country, found himself a productive job.. Duggan was British. And his line of work?

Have I missed anything else out?
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11:49 PM on 08/07/2011
It takes little incentive to loot and destroy. Obviously those who tear down are not productive members of society but leeches expecting handouts.
Become a productive member of the country you selected as your home, or leave.
02:07 AM on 08/08/2011
What immigrants are you talking about? These are British people. 'Immigrants' don't riot here, the vast majority are hard working and law abiding. This is about a small minority of bored youths, not about racial discord.
06:43 PM on 08/08/2011
notalwaysfitoprint tells me to "Become a productive member of the country you selected as your home, or leave".

I was born here, as were my two parents, four grandparents and seven of my great-grandparents. I was "a productive member of the country" from 17 to past 65. It is unwise to judge a person by his or her name.
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08:46 PM on 08/07/2011
wow
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08:33 PM on 08/07/2011
2nd
Tottenham riots: relatives of dead man say they didn't want violence:
Police have been criticised for failing to communicate clearly with the family who say they feel isolated, unsupported and ignored.

Whatever happened in the intervening hours until Saturday night neither the IPCC nor the police apparently did enough to communicate clearly with the family of Duggan.

Wilson and other family members had turned up at the police station in Tottenham at around 5pm on Saturday, with community leaders, to mount a vigil and pursue answers. Only hours earlier she had been with 13 other family members to identify Duggan's body and pay their respects; the delay of more than 36 hours between his death and their being allowed to see him has not been explained by the IPCC, despite questions from the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/tottenham-riots-relatives-dead-man
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08:58 PM on 08/07/2011
where is 1st?