Officers Attack Lack Of Political Leadership And Demand Guidance On Tactics

Police Tactics

First Posted: 09/08/11 16:12 BST Updated: 09/10/11 11:12 BST

The Metropolitan Police Federation has attacked politicians for their lack of leadership in the face of widespread unrest in London, and has demanded clear guidance for officers on what tactics its officers can and can't use.

The Metropolitan Police has confirmed that 16,000 police officers will be on duty in London from midday Tuesday until Wednesday morning. Officers from up to 26 police forces from around the UK will be on duty.

However Neil Cratchley, who is general secretary of the Metropolitan Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers, said they still lack proper instructions from politicians on what tactics they can use.

"What we really need now is for politicians to start giving us some really clear guidance on whether we're going to police this gently-gently, or effectively," Cratchley told the Huffington Post UK.

"It's for politicians to say whether they want us to stand by and just try and contain things, or do they actually want us to go in and move these people on and start arresting them."

His comments join rising criticism of key ministers and other politicians, many of whom were not in the capital until Tuesday despite three nights of violence.

They include the home secretary Theresa May and Mayor of London Boris Johnson, who returned from holiday on Monday and Prime Minister David Cameron who arrived back in the capital on Tuesday.

Johnson and May were booed and heckled by Londoners on the streets of Clapham on Tuesday lunchtime for what has been seen as their conspicuous absence so far in the crisis.

Alluding to recent incidents where tactics used by police to contain violence were later criticised as heavy-handed, Cratchley said that it was down to politicians to set the standards so that police officers know what is and what is not expected of them.

"Police want clear instructions on what to do, not to be told to do one thing today and then be criticised by the politicians tomorrow, who then say 'well that isn't actually what we meant'. Which quite often happens."

Cratchley added that there was "no point" arresting looters if prosecution services are not set up to bring charges.

"If we're going to start arresting them then officers need the support of the criminal justice system. There is no point us arresting them if they're going to be out a few hours later. Or not to be able to hold them at all because of their ages."

The 16,000 officers on the streets on Tuesday evening is more than five times as many as the 3,000 officer who would normally be on duty.

Those numbers include patrol, response and riot squad offices, and community support officers.

That number is "probably unprecedented" Cratchley said. He added that many officers have been on duty for up to 36 hours.

"You can only do it for so long before people get very tired and concentration levels and other things take a hold."

However Cratchley said that despite everything officers would be working hard to restore order, and praised their dedication.

"This is what they do. And I have to make the point to you, that despite everything, despite all the provocation, they're still out there doing it. They are tired but they are committed."

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10:25 AM on 08/13/2011
Murdoch strikes again!
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10:25 AM on 08/13/2011
They should replace all police with American TSA workers.
03:24 PM on 08/10/2011
A police station in Nottingham was set light to. Six officers escaped and arrested 8 people. Someone in Nottingham broke into a jeweller and was arrested. They can do it. Why not the Met?
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Economike
11:12 PM on 08/10/2011
Check out Sherwood Forest there's usually a bunch of guys wearing hoods hanging out there.
fredgladys
Your Micro-bio is empty, I know, stop nagging.
12:21 AM on 08/11/2011
And armed as well.
lastpost
see biography
09:38 AM on 08/10/2011
"The Metropolitan Police Federation has attacked politicians for their lack of leadership"
That is grossly unfair. Dave has been an exemplary leader. Has he not demonstrated to the people exactly the standards of service and moral responsibility that might be expected from any member of our community? Does he not surround himself with those who fulfill fully the promises that got them elected?

"Neil Cratchley, who is general secretary of the Metropolitan Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers, said they still lack proper instructions"
They may have been lost in the post Neil. You know, by that organization that could have been making a fortune for them. If it hadn’t been hamstrung by political dogma.

"many of whom were not in the capital until Tuesday"
Be fair, it simply wasn’t safe for them to be there.

"Cratchley said that it was down to politicians to set the standards"
Lets put it this way Neil. You’ve seen Syria? Well…

"committed"
You may have stumbled on a solution Neil. As far as some of those in charge are concerned.
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04:32 AM on 08/10/2011
The photo is great. Cameron is saying:

"Now, Sargent Mary, I want you go out there and tell those bad, bad boys to put those wide screen TVs back where they got them, and then you go and tell their mothers they must be spanked!"
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Economike
11:13 PM on 08/10/2011
Cops are usually better at beating up hippies and non violent protesters.
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04:25 AM on 08/10/2011
In Britain police have to wait for some POLITICIAN to tell them what to do? THAT"S INSANE!

Over here, the police commissioner would tell the police chief to go out and restore order, and he would automatically know what to do. He would give the orders and they would be followed. This would take like 10 minutes!!

And how many days have the riots been going on? Have you used police on horseback, dogs, tear gas, rubber bullets, firehoses???? You also need armored personel carriers, tasers, and SWAT.

If you are waiting around for some sod MP to call in from his vacation, good luck to you all!
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M Zahran Sallay
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04:15 AM on 08/10/2011
the police can't win either way. adopt a softly softly approch to avoid injuries to all and in hope that the riots will peter out and they will be accused of not being deciseful enough or cowardinece.

adopt a stronger approach and they will be blamed for inflamming the situation.

if a rioter is even injured by a police action, the policeman or his superiors will be hauled over the coals by the media, politicians and the family of the rioter accused of using "excessive force", never mind if he was doing something illegal or anti-social against the police at the time of the incident.

don't forget also that the uk police is bound (or to be more accurate, straightjacketed) by numerous guidelines, regulations to provide an immediate solution to these yobs on the rampage. it's merits or demerits can be argued over until the cows come home but its worth pointing out that if this had happened in my country, a few canisters of tear gas, and some rounds of rubber bullets would have done the trick on the first day, nay the first hour of these troubles.
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rda1911a1
God Bless John Browning
01:26 AM on 08/10/2011
Don't they have some soccer stadiums they could house these arestees in?
10:16 PM on 08/09/2011
What a surprise, poor marginalized people with little opportunity and few if any options are rioting. Who could have predicted. Coming to U.S. cities in the near future.
10:14 PM on 08/09/2011
Conservative governments are always dangerous to the well being of the poor, the working and middle class.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
09:59 PM on 08/09/2011
They need to sit all these rioters in front of their own version of Fox News to make them compliant and docile supporters of the upper classes. Have them mantra, "Status Quo, Way to Go."
10:15 PM on 08/09/2011
Don't give the pha$ci$ts any ideas.
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leewall
my ears ring.I have Marshall syndrome
01:15 AM on 08/10/2011
there's plenty of rich pigs on the other side of the hill too.
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George Hoffman
Drive into your dreams.
08:17 PM on 08/09/2011
I agree with the spokesman for the Metropolitan Police. This is clearly a lack of political leadership, and the blame directly falls on Cameron and his ministers. The police are in a dicey situation, and they have responded to the rioting given all the constraints in policy and manpower. Tonight will tell if the police can make some progress, because there will be 16,000 policemen as opposed to around 5,000 or 6,000 since the first night of rioting.
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04:37 AM on 08/10/2011
Ridiculous! Restraint? How much restraint do you have to display? Mollycoddling appears to be what's been used so far.

Don't your police have riot training? The first JOB of a cop is to protect the innocent. He should protect the property of the innocent as well.

I have seen footage where your cops just stand around holding up their shields while right in front of them rioters are throwing things!

You people have your priorities all mixed up and unfortunately, you are getting what you deserve.
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The Green Knight
06:42 PM on 08/09/2011
A completely lost country and part of the blame, obviously, will be determined to be their loose borders, poor immigration policy, and a lack of direction for their new melting pot.
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Linh Nguyen
06:09 PM on 08/09/2011
Oh yeah real smart, leave it to those in power to decide how to treat those without power. One of these days I'd like to see the people in power offering tea and cookie to those protesting them. lol.
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Paul Houston
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05:30 PM on 08/09/2011
Posted this over to Inspector Gadget blog.