UK Riots: Three Men Killed After Riots In Birmingham

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Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 10/08/11 07:47 BST Updated: 09/10/11 11:12 BST

Three men have died in Birmingham as the UK suffered its fourth night of rioting and disorder.

Police have launched a murder inquiry in response to the incident which happened around 1am in Winson Green, Birmingham.

The men were returning from a mosque and protecting their area from rioters.

The father of one of the victims, Haroon Jahan, 21 today told of how he helped the injured men without realizing they were his children.

Tariq Jahan said: “The car came up on the pavement for God knows what reason and I was standing nearby.

“I heard it happen and I turned round and I saw three people on the ground and my instinct to help and I started CPR and someone told me that one of them was my son.

“I started CPR on my own son and my hands and face were covered in blood. What was the point in doing it? We are here defending the community. He was a good kid aged 21, and very well liked”, he told the BBC.

The other two victims were brothers Abdul Nasir, 31, and Shazad Ali, 30.

Witness Kabir Khan Isakhel told the press association: "People came out of prayers and they were protecting the area. My friends were targeted - they were standing on the side of the road and the car just came and ran them over."

West Midlands police, in a statement released on Wednesday said:

"West Midlands Police have launched a murder inquiry, arrested one man in connection with the incident and recovered a vehicle from near the scene which will be examined by forensics experts."

A man beaten by rioters in Enfield also died in hospital on Wednesday morning, bringing the total number of those who have died in riot related incidents to five.

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The tragedy comes after the violence, which began in north London on Saturday evening, spread to the north. There was disorder in Liverpool, Wolverhampton, Bristol, Gloucester, Salford and West Bromwich all

There was widespread looting and vandalism in Manchester, and a police station in Nottingham was firebombed.

In an emotional press conference on Tuesday evening, assistant chief constable Gary Sherwan of Manchester Police said, "levels of violence in the city are "unprecedented". He also assured residents that the force was "determined to clamp down on youths running riot" and that it would be "business as usual tomorrow".

Police made 108 arrests in the city.

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West Midlands Police have announced that they have arrested 389 people in connection with the riots.

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Peter Hitchens: "People riot because they are wicked, selfish and lawless...we have dismantled every form of authority in society."

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For the next hour Sky News is hosting a debate on the riots, with journalists Peter Hitchens and David Aaronovitch. It could get interesting...

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@ SkyNewsBreak : 186 Metropolitan Police officers reported injured since Saturday

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@ SkyNewsBreak : Metropolitan Police have arrested 950 people so far since starts of the riots, 457 of those have been charged

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The met police have arrested a thug for robbing an injured student during the riots.

He is one of 950 people who have been arrested in connection with violence, disorder and looting by the metropolitan police. A total of 457 people have been charged.

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@ SkyNewsBreak : Met Police: Roughly half of 240 people who have appearedin court so far charged over London riots were under 18

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@ TimGatt : K Clarke tells Sky:"This is worse than 25 yrs ago[...]There are several sections of the population that are much more totally irresponsible"

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Mr Cameron has set himself an enormous task here, effectively pledging to reverse the drift of popular culture in Britain and change the way the country thinks and feels.

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While this continues, Met police have been making more arrests and raided properties - officers in Brixton, south London, recovered clothing and an iPod,

In Pimlico, West London, they found £1,600 in cash and "thousands of pounds worth of Hugo Boss clothing - all still with the labels on."

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“In recent weeks the prison population has reached record highs and prison and probation officers are being increasingly overstretched. It is vital for public safety and for security in our prisons and the youth secure estate that prison and probation staff get the resources and support they need", he said in a statement released on Thursday.

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@ itv_news : 11-year-old girl charged with criminal damage following disturbances in Nottingham has been given a referral order #riots

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The Mayor of London Boris Johnson has today announced a £50 million fund to help make major long term improvements to the capital’s town centres and high streets damaged by the recent disturbances.

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@ frances_skynews : Ian Jones, 36 unemployed pleads guilty to trespass of a building containing a cash machine with 43k in it.

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@ NigelNelson : Possibly the best, most thoughtful, speech @Ed_Miliband has made since becoming leader. Close study recommended

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Other games will go ahead at the start of the premier league, but start a bit earlier, David Cameron tells MPs.

"Other matches should go ahead but starting earlier on in the day. I think that is a very sensible decision."

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The package of support being announced today includes:

A £10m recovery fund to help councils with the immediate costs of making their areas safe, clear and clean again. This fund can be used, for example, to clear debris left strewn in streets and make immediate repairs to pavements and roads. This Recovery scheme can also be used to support councils who use their powers to offer council tax discounts or council tax relief to those whose homes have been damaged but are still habitable.

A £20m High Street Support Scheme - funded jointly by the Departments for Communities and Local Government, and Business Innovation and Skills, which will be made available immediately, for the streets and areas where businesses were affected by the rioting. The money is intended to finance those measures that will get business trading again and meet short term costs. Councils will distribute the money and could use it to reduce business rates, finance building repairs and encourage customers back to the affected areas.

In addition, seriously damaged homes and business properties will be taken off the respective valuation lists, and Mr Pickles has strongly encouraged the Valuation Office Agency and local authorities to do so as promptly as possible. This removes any liability for council tax or business rates.

Councils have the power to offer rate relief for local firms, but must pay a quarter of the cost; central government automatically pays for three quarters of the cost. This Scheme will help reimburse councils for their costs, to facilitate immediate and real financial help to be given to small and medium firms to rebuild their local businesses. Business rates are typically the third biggest outgoing for firms after rent and staff.

Re-housing funding to meet the immediate costs of emergency accommodation for families who have been made homeless by the disturbances. As these are exceptional circumstances, Mr Pickles has confirmed that his Department would meet these costs under established homelessness funding processes.

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Commenting on the government's measures to help businesses affected by the riots, Colin Stanbridge, chief executive of the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry (LCCI) said:

“We welcome these announcements by the government, as they offer practical assistance at what is a terrible time for many businesses across London and the UK. We are also pleased to see that the government recognises the importance of getting businesses back up and running.

"It is important, however, that businesses in affected areas that did not experience any direct damage are able to take advantage of the measures announced today, where they have suffered an indirect impact.

"Ultimately though it will be the enduring spirit of London’s businesses that will see them recover from these appalling events, and ensure that the capital remains the best place in the world to do business.”

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This Government has a clear message to the rioters: your one night of madness could have disastrous consequences for the rest of your lives, and for your entire family. .

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@ nickdebois : RT @stewartgjgreen: @nickdebois asks the P M to get schools to assist with identifying rioters and looters <and a good idea it is>thanks!

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"Further militarisation" won't help, she tells the PM

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@ GregHands : Ed Miliband loved seeing his brother slip up there on "elected chief constables", visibly smiling at the mistake.

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David Cameron: It's about giving police more power.

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@ craigawoodhouse : Michael Gove using ipad on Commons front bench. Wonder if he is re-watching newsnight row with Harman?

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He wants "as many people to be nicked" as possible

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@ TimGatt : How Cameron can control a U.S. based site like Da Twitta, I don't know.

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Reverse police cuts, reverse soft prison plans of current Justice Secretary Ken Clarke.

Cameron is standing firm on this, cites police constables who agree with him in Thames Valley.

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@ SkyNewsBreak : Scotland Yard: 922 people arrested in connection with violence in London since Saturday - 401 suspects charged

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quillerm
08:49 PM on 08/12/2011
Out deepest sympathy for these three brave men that tried to protect their community. That is why we have the right to bear arms in America, when punks try to burn and loot our neighborhoods it will be their last riot.
01:04 PM on 08/12/2011
For those who don't live in London. These riots were not directly political. They were only political in the sense that it all happened because those in power since the 80s have allowed our society to degenerate. They gathered in large numbers initially on the Saturday for the protest and when that got out of hand there were many opportunists who came along. BBM broadcast messages were sent along the lines of "If you want free stuff be at Ealing Broadway at 5pm". Does that sound like a remotely politically motivated message to anyone?

As for immigration policy....why is it when anything goes wrong immigrants are blamed? Its blinkering to an extreme extent. A lot of those arrested were born in this country. A lot of those rioting were under 25. How many under 25s do you believe immigrate? Besides London, the rest of England does not have a high immigrant population. Do you believe that immigrants travelled the length and breadth of the country to riot?
05:33 AM on 08/13/2011
Got news for you - it began in the 60's. Never heard of the rolling black outs and the riots in the 70's? Why do you think so many people immigrated.
Of course young people can be immigrants. It would be interesting to know how many were on government welfare or unemployment.
05:22 PM on 08/13/2011
The reason I say 80s is because that is when banking reform came in, industries in this country (ship building, mines, etc) were sold off. Banking reform directly contributed to the current financial crisis as much legislation was removed pretty much allowing banks to do what they want. Selling off of industry has led to there being cases of 3 generations of the same family never having worked.

I never said young people couldn't be immigrants. I said how many young people do you think immigrate? Enough to make up a large majority of those rioting? I think not. I would wager that not even a quarter of those rioting were immigrants.

It would be interesting to see how many are on welfare.
04:28 PM on 08/11/2011
This whole thing reminds me of NYC prior to the Juliani era. It's time to clean up the streets and take a tough stance against crime (3 strikes, death penalty etc)., cut welfare, and ban immigration for those with below average wealth.
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jerryengelbach
Working class heritage
02:39 AM on 08/13/2011
Crime fell in New York City not because of Giuliani, but David Dinkens.
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04:01 PM on 08/11/2011
(http://tinyurl.com/49fjtqm) Forgive me for saying this! The rioting here is really got to do with the quality of the people staying here! Some people gave the reason as economic hardship that drove people to this state. But, please take a look at Japan, that country has been in recession for over a decade - the so-called lost decade, yet, the country is still so orderly, even with the recent triple disaster - Earthquake+Tsunami+Nuclear Leak! Britain probably has to re-look its immigration policy!
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Said One
04:44 PM on 08/11/2011
Why do you insist on calling them by Windsor? Just curious....
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Said One
11:31 AM on 08/11/2011
And three cheers for Moz for linking the recent riots to the unelected heads of state at his latest concert

http://www.gigwise.com/news/65695/Morrissey-Speaks-About-London-Riots-Royal-Family-At-Brixton-Gig
11:21 AM on 08/11/2011
Where's Simon Pegg when you need him?
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JohnGault3
A Nation Gone to Pot
09:37 AM on 08/11/2011
Notice all these riots, just like riots in the US, are NOT done by Christian conservatives. Almost every riot is caused by leftist socialists. They are the real danger and succumb to the mob mentality. The media likes to say "look at those dangerous right wing militia groups." But what have those groups ever done? Have they ever had a riot? Destroyed millions in property? The FBI considers the eco group Earth Liberation Front as the most dangerous group in the US. Again, leftist. Look at EVERY presidential assassin in the US--all leftists. These are the dangerous groups, NOT the Tea Party.
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Marvelousdreams
Writer of Prophecy
12:34 PM on 08/11/2011
Alfred Morrow Federal Building in Oklahoma.
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JohnGault3
A Nation Gone to Pot
08:00 PM on 08/11/2011
First of all I said RIOTS, also he was not a conservative Christian. But I am talking about riots. Read.
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JohnGault3
A Nation Gone to Pot
08:07 PM on 08/11/2011
Oh, btw, McVeigh was kicked out of a militia group. Keep up.
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Marvelousdreams
Writer of Prophecy
12:35 PM on 08/11/2011
Killing doctors who perform abortions. Bombings in Atlanta. What was that guys name who spent years in the forest and what ever happened to him?
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JohnGault3
A Nation Gone to Pot
08:01 PM on 08/11/2011
First of all, I said RIOTS. Killing an abortion doctor is not a riot.
05:27 AM on 08/11/2011
Tony the phony Blair and Gordon the clown Brown are lying low because they know Londonistan swamped with uneducated alien immigrants was their doing.
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Said One
07:45 AM on 08/11/2011
Yeah and for some reason the unelected heads of state - Camilla Windsor, Elizabeth Windsor, Charles Windsor rich off the taxes of the people of the UK are lying low too - no stories about Kate going shopping at Tesco (wonder why she doesn't go today) afterall these protests apparently have nothing to do with them - also many of these protesters are lily-white.

These people want free and fair elections and budgets made that don't involve extreme austerity for all the people in the UK while the head of state still gets allocated huge amounts of money for her and her family's lives of excess.
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JohnGault3
A Nation Gone to Pot
09:38 AM on 08/11/2011
Simple. Stop subsidizing the Royals. Screw them.
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Said One
08:18 AM on 08/11/2011
I see the Windsor family - unelected heads of state at that are also lying low today
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Jim Bains
Retired Steelworker from Birmingham, Alabama.
04:54 AM on 08/11/2011
From my vantage point in Birmingham, Alabama, USA and with my memories of the '60s in "Bombingham", what I see in the UK today looks like a boiling-over of long-suffered grievances. Listening to the upper-class twits and the upper-class wanabes on BBC condemning rioters as: "feral teenagers, thugs and vermin" makes it easy to see why unemployed working class youth are pissed off. The Conservative austeity program is sure to exacerbate an already intolerable situation. How about a few choruses of the Rolling Stones' "Street Fightin' Man"?
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Said One
07:46 AM on 08/11/2011
The Conservati­ve austerity program is sure to exacerbate an already intolerabl­e situation.


And of course the unelected heads of state can still receive millions while the taxpaying population of the UK are told to cut down
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deluk
disgusted.
08:34 AM on 08/11/2011
They are not generally "working" class, they are burning down the homes and businesses of their working class neighbours, and there are many jobs in London occupied by people from all over the world (unless you've been to London, you'd have no idea, its really an extraordinarily diverse place and it runs on the manpower of immigrant labour) these people generally would really rather not bother contributing.
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Said One
11:34 AM on 08/11/2011
There are jobs a plenty if one happens to be lets say born into the Royal Family - head of state for one, jobs that require taxpayers spend 4 million on each vacation for one - yeah there are jobs a plenty if your last name is Windsor
04:36 AM on 08/11/2011
Exactly what do the poms expect ? are they REALLY surprised ?Listened to a guy on our radio this morning speaking from London( an expert on youth and poverty etc who works FOR the Govt) who said he wrote and warned the PM months ago that thousands of dispossessed and poor youth were a tinderbox waiting to ignite - but that he never even got an acknowledgement.The Rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and less interested in 'belonging' to a country which ignores their plight, blames them for the ills of society and spies on them with a mega-multitude of CTV Cameras - I'd bloody wellRiot too I think !
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Said One
07:47 AM on 08/11/2011
The rich namely their unelected heads of state and her family who are rich off their money while they are told to cut down.
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deluk
disgusted.
08:36 AM on 08/11/2011
Oh, please.....
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ramal
One's only real life is the life one never leads.
04:35 AM on 08/11/2011
Rivers of blood.
05:37 AM on 08/13/2011
Indeed.
04:25 AM on 08/11/2011
I see a lot of ignorant comments, so I'll set the record straight.

This isn't political. There is no message here. People are breaking in to stores and stealing what they want. This is nothing like the *protests* against the tuition fee hikes nor against the austerity cuts.

Gangs organised and hit places with low police presence, and considering how the country was caught off guard a lot won't be caught, too. I saw about 200 people gather near where I live in the space of five minutes - that isn't a coincidence.
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CrazyThisIs
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind
06:06 AM on 08/11/2011
Coppers may not be completely organised now, but they will be spending ages reviewing the loads of CCTV footage, once locals finish lighting up cars, breaking into shops, & stealing trainers and electronics.
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karen1p
08:26 AM on 08/11/2011
Ummmm, hate to tell you....if there is gangs measuring in the hundreds, it IS political....but go ahead and continue to bury your head. People on the other side of the pond are very very happy to do so as well.
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deluk
disgusted.
08:37 AM on 08/11/2011
nonsense, YOU, like so many of the posters here WANT it be "political" to suit your world view, I suspect you're thousands of miles away from London.
11:10 AM on 08/11/2011
Karen, I find your comment about the numbers determining that this political and see what you mean... or at least my understanding of it. While I don't believe the motives of the rioters are necessary political, I do believe that society has a lot to answer for in how these individuals have turned out - that is political. Hopefully I'm making sense.
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