Nick Clegg Threatens To Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate

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First Posted: 17/09/11 16:57 BST Updated: 17/09/11 20:40 BST   PA

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has warned his coalition partners that he is determined to stop the proposed abolition of the 50p tax rate.

Clegg made his comments in an interview with The Independent, published on Saturday.

The threat comes on the eve of the Liberal Democrats’ party conference in Birmingham. Clegg is expected to face heavy criticism during the five-day event.

Despite leading the party to power, the LibDem leader presided over their worst English local election results for 30 years.

George Osborne has made no secret of his desire to abolish the 50p rate on incomes over ÂŁ150,000 - describing it as a "temporary" measure introduced by the former Labour government.

Clegg, however, remains defiant. He said:

"What I, and any government including LibDems, are interested in is lowering the tax burden on the millions of people on lower and middle incomes – not rushing to make sure the very, very richest pay less tax. It would be utterly incomprehensible for millions of people who work hard, do their best for their families, and play by the rules, if suddenly the priority is to give 300,000 people at the very, very top a tax break.”

He suggested that removing the 50p rate could undermine support for the entire tax system.

"If millions of taxpayers feel they are being overlooked, ignored and passed over, as preference is given to people who need the least amount of help at the moment, you destroy the very fabric of consensus without which a sensible tax system cannot survive.
"It would be utterly incomprehensible for millions of people who work hard, do their best for their families, and play by the rules, if suddenly the priority is to give 300,000 people at the very, very top a tax break. It is not going to happen - certainly not until there is significant progress on giving tax breaks to those on lower and middle incomes."

While his show of muscle-flexing on the eve of the party conference season will doubtless play well with LibDem activists, it will infuriate many Tories who are determined to see an end to the 50p rate.

However, Mr Clegg made clear the LibDems would back abolition in the long run only if it was not raising much revenue and if it was replaced by new taxes on "unearned income". These could include a 1% annual "mansion tax" on homes worth more than ÂŁ2m, a land tax, and restricting tax relief on pensions to the basic 20p rate.

Mr Clegg also risked further antagonising by Mr Osborne - who has always insisted there was no "Plan B" alternative to his deficit reduction plan - by conceding the Government had adopted a "Plan A-plus" to ensure growth. He said: "For too long people have assumed that, because we are sticking to the fiscal plan, somehow the Government is impotent. It is complete nonsense."

At the conference, Clegg is expected to emphasise the party's achievements in government. However, anger remains among the rank and file, particularly on the issues of NHS reform and incapacity benefits.

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06:40 AM on 09/18/2011
When the media, police, politicians and the wealthy are in bed together nothing good can come of it.

How much of what has gone on the past decade is due to the media pushing an agenda rather than reporting the news?

Agenda driven news reports have influenced the public and politics.
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MohammedAbbasi
Co-Director, Association of British Muslims
01:34 AM on 09/18/2011
Cleggs in my home town?
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
12:19 AM on 09/18/2011
No Nick, you can scream & scream & scream, and Dave & George won't listen. Have the decency to step down.
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10:19 PM on 09/17/2011
So far, this story has had three options for what Nickyboy plans to do about this tax proposal.

"Deputy Prime Minister Says He May Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate."

"Nick Clegg Vows To Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate."

and now....

"Nick Clegg Threatens To Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate "

So its gone from a stated intention, to a vow, to a threat.
Which one is it going to be? Will any of them happen? Does Nickyboy mean any of those things or is there a sub-editor somewhere in HuffPo making stuff up?
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DaveJohnWard
08:27 PM on 09/17/2011
The point is this is a coalition. No-one said that the LibDems had to agree with everything the Tories proposed. If Nick Clegg wants to stick to his guns then fair dos to him. The fact that he's wrong, and the amount taken from the 50p band is insignificant is a different matter
08:13 PM on 09/17/2011
The right wing take over of the media has driven policy for the last few decades.

The media, police, politicians and the wealthy should not be in bed together.

It is time to bring ethics and morals back into our institutions.
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Ithaqua
08:01 PM on 09/17/2011
The only thing I want to hear from Clegg is a resignation speech closely followed by the same from every single Lib Dem who went back on the election pledges they made.

Only then can they rebuild and regain trust
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07:00 PM on 09/17/2011
The way one politician after another continues posturing themselves as the upholders of what is right as regards taxation is laughable in the extreme. Forget whether it is right or wrong to tax people earning above ÂŁ300, 000 they can afford it, as can Osbourne and Clegg.

Spare a thought for the single mother struggling with how to pay for food for her children and the man trying to keep a roof over his families head. It is time for these duly elected politicians to consider the many electorate and not the few rich people.
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Ithaqua
07:59 PM on 09/17/2011
f + f
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Lawyer13
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05:41 PM on 09/17/2011
I think Nick Clegg has lost the plot, he has definitely loss support for his Party, he should wait and see what HMRC say about the ammount of tax collected from the 50p rate before he announces a veto.
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05:39 PM on 09/17/2011
From the front page of HuffPo
"Deputy Prime Minister Says He May Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate."

From the article headline
"Nick Clegg Vows To Veto Tory Proposals To Scrap 50p Tax Rate."

So... which one is it? Who do we mistrust here? HuffPo or Nickyboy?
The Independent on Saturday article didn't exactly help me work it out. HuffPo seems to have some issues with consistency... funnily enough, so does Nickyboy and his party, so I'm going to have to remain a grumpy old cynic.
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floodberg
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08:15 PM on 09/17/2011
WLQ, another poster on here told me that you know Nicky won't do whatever he promises; I'm going with that idea.  He won't veto jack and he'll get Ashton's EU job to boot.
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09:07 PM on 09/17/2011
I'd like to try being generous and give him the benefit of the doubt... hard though it is in the face of his U-turn over tuition fees in England and his party's duplicity in Scotland.
I fully accept that he may well wish to veto this latest tax proposal if it ever comes to a cabinet vote, but I like breathing too much to ever think of holding my breath waiting for it to happen.
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Blockem1
When will our politicians start putting policies
05:26 PM on 09/17/2011
"Clegg made his comments in an interview with The Independent, published on Saturday." This tells you straight away the man is in trouble , the Independent On Saturday ......... he will be lucky if it sells over 100,000 papers , never the less as if Cameron and Osborne are going to take a blind bit of notice of him.Instead of his meaningless bunkem, why wont he focus on the real tax issues of removing the tax burden from the poor to reduce the need to pay benefits and put a stop to corporate and the individual tax avoidance schemes that are allowing billions of tax revenues to walk out the door. Sorry Nick , yet another PR failure for you .
04:49 PM on 09/17/2011
The argument for abolition of the 50% rate has not been made.

The ideological desire has been stated - that is all.

There is also an argument for increasing taxation. The Conservative posturing on the 50p rate may be a means whereby that argument is excluded from debate. Perhaps they think they can frighten off the Labour Party from advocacy of a higher rate than 50%.

After all, given this ''context creation'' of the Conservatives (they know Clegg will block any shift), would Milliband dare propose a higher rate of, say, 80%?
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floodberg
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08:26 PM on 09/17/2011
I think instead of raising the top tax rate, get rid of some of the 'perks,' eg, exemptions, heavily tax estates over ÂŁ500K, go after offshore bank accounts, go after Phil Green/Topshop {ok, that's personal: I'd pay to do that,}) that sort of thing.

I get stuck on the figures:  80% of the new jobs created went to migrants in EU; and both migrant workers and those on benefits send a huge amount of UK money to their home economies (there goes the 'stimulus.') 

Without a stop to migration or a supportable theory on why that happened (and thus build a measure into any tax relief or credits to make sure UK citizens get a hiring advantage) I have an issue with giving more breaks to 'job creators.'  There's no comparative figure to how many new jobs were created by UK 'job creators' abroad, but I'm figuring 3-4 times as many since it's logical they'd invest capital in economies which were developing, had lower wages and taxes.  If they want to stimulate UK jobs for UK citizens, write the law to require that; not 'encourage' it.