Labour Party Conference 2011: Hazel Blears Says Immigration Has Gone Too Far

Hazel Blears Immigration

Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 25/09/11 21:24 BST Updated: 25/11/11 10:12 GMT

Immigration is "too high" and people are right to be angry about EU migrants using Britain's benefits system, according to a former cabinet minister

Speaking during a Dods fringe meeting at the Labour party conference in Liverpool, Hazel Blears told audience members that people had a right to be angry about EU migrants abusing the benefits system.

"In terms of access to benefits, if you get child benefit in this country, you get it," she said. "In Poland it's totally means tested and it's much much less than us. So if we go and work in Poland and don't take our kids with us, we don't get benefits. The Polish people come here, they will get the benefits. So it's things like that that create a real sense of grievance, and justifiably so."

The Salford MP said she agreed with comments made during a previous fringe by a Demos worker who suggested that immigration should be paused and that Turkey should not become part of the European Union.

"He said that for a lot of people in our communities immigration was too high, too fast.

"Their communities changed before their eyes, there was a stress on public service and I actually agree with him and I [have] agreed with him for many years on that. And when I was a communities secretary, I brought in policies that tried to make sure the stress on the NHS, on education, on the numbers of people that we'd got in our primary school classes - kids were not getting the one-to-one education they needed, to try and address some of that...

"We can't just dance around it and say it doesn't matter. that then gets to the heart of why we don't reconnect with people. If you just say to them 'you're not right, you're wrong, you've got it wrong', this is how they feel."

She warned Labour would be "irrelevant" if it did not engage with voters' on immigration, adding:

"People do feel - and it's not just the economy, it is the economy, and it's about a drive down to the bottom of the labour market, and the fact that people's wages were undermined. But it is cultural as well. And you can't not say it. It's almost like we're fighting to say it."

"I think we've got this sense that we've got this great melting pot which is London and some of our big cities. But that isn't necessarily reflected in other communities. We cannot have a party - and I've banged on about this for a long time - that is simply London centric and looks through the prism of a very multicultural community, and also a very middle class community."

Shadow justice minister Chris Bryant, appearing alongside Blears, added that Labour had failed the white working class when they were in power but chastised Blears for going "far too far".

"In terms of the white working class people who wanted to work, we didn't do enough to make their work environment a more secure place, we made it feel more insecure and to that degree yes of course that was a failure."

Labour leader Ed Miliband admitted earlier today that Labour had "got it wrong" on immigration.

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MerthinBuff
In search of an Intellectual Conservative
06:49 PM on 09/27/2011
Not allowing Turkey into the EU is a travesty based on bigotry.
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LLCoolCal
07:42 PM on 09/26/2011
Too little too late Hazel !
yours and previous govts has done NOTHING to curb the problem that most of the country is up in arms about and that is IMMIGRATION
both labour and tory have let us down and im afraid are trying to close the gate after the horse has bolted !
let alone if Turkey gets EU status- I can forsee hundreds of thousands of Turks all coming here next and the benefits bill that will go with it.
10:49 AM on 09/26/2011
Hazel Blears career went too far a long time ago, on yer bike Hazel and buzz off.
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
06:33 PM on 09/26/2011
She's nuzzling around for a new cabinet position. She's the labour parties version of Chuckie. The demon dwarf that just won't die.
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Derek Lantin
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04:40 AM on 09/27/2011
I agree.
Many of the Labour politicians are nosing around, looking for a nice plum job in the shadow administration..
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Derek Lantin
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07:34 AM on 09/26/2011
Sir

Much to my surprise, I find myself in partial agreement with Hazel Blears.

The immigrant community has made enormous contributions towards the prosperity of the UK. That much is evident wherever we look, - from the people who help run our transport systems,to the people who run our corner shops, and to the doctors who help run our health service.

However, times are now hard and it would make sense to close the door. Before we can help others, we must first put our own finances in order.

Before closing the door, however, we must ask ourselves some hard questions. Questions such as “Are immigrants sucked in to the UK by the welfare system, or are they sucked in because British people are either unwilling or unqualified to perform the work required of them?”

Yours Sincerely, Derek Lantin, http://dereklantin.booksabuzz.com
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thanadar
Jury nullification works.
02:21 PM on 09/26/2011
Hear, hear! Agreed! We clearly need a new "Migration Policy" whereby all immigrants to Britain since, say, the last forty-five years should be quickly migrated out of the country back to their native homelands. Then see how readily Britain restores its pride, morality, economy and dignity, not to mention its once-envie­d education system.
03:06 PM on 09/26/2011
Is that a real comment? Are you serious?
Good luck with the health service if you believe in forced repatriation by the way. And that's just for starters. But why stop at 45 years? Why not go back a few thousand? Or just long enough to establish when your ancestors came, and send you back to whatever Scandinavian midden you sprouted from.
My point being, of course, that this is an island. We're all immigrants. It's just a question of when.
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European1919
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05:50 AM on 09/26/2011
Late remorse, but she's right.
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Lawyer13
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05:46 AM on 09/26/2011
Hazel Blears the grinning gnome of Salford, I am totally amazed by this revelation from HER, it was her party who failed to do anything about imigration whilst in office.
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Derek Lantin
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03:33 PM on 09/27/2011
Yes, pure opportunism.
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John michael Adams
05:09 AM on 09/26/2011
ok so they already admitted that their immigration policies were a disaster. Now I want to hear concrete policies!
Perhaps they could jumpstart the fight against immigration and abuse of welfare benefits by persecuting Blair and Gordon for treason.
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nete peedham
02:17 PM on 09/26/2011
The word is prosecuting.
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John michael Adams
06:29 PM on 09/26/2011
thanks, grammarnazi
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Tim Haselden
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01:23 AM on 09/26/2011
Ah, Hazel Blears. Wasn't she the minister who claimed for five different houses on expenses?
11:35 AM on 09/26/2011
Perhaps she can rent them out to immmigrants and become a Housing Benefit millionairess, The Housing Benefit system is a get rich quick & easy scheme for landlords not tenants.
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Tim Haselden
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12:33 PM on 09/26/2011
I think she's scammed enough to be a millionaire many times over. Remember that photo of Gordon Brown in a kilt with a ginger sporran? That wasn't a sporran, it was Hazel Blears asking to keep her cabinet job.
11:48 PM on 09/25/2011
This is as mundane a story as any to be honest, anyone with half a brain can notice that this happens every time a new party takes over the helm in politics. When Obama got into power, Republicans with weeks were bashing debt, immigration, inflation etc and pinning it on him, and here Labour are doing the same thing! Who created the benefit system, Labour. Who joined the EU and therefore allowed for mass immigration to happen, guess who. It is not OK to then try to pin it on the new guys, it is petty, immature and shows a lack of ability in constructing a real argument. I am no fan of the Tories whatsoever, but it destroys me when I see people in politics act like petulant children.
11:58 PM on 09/25/2011
Totally. The bi-bipartite 'you say black, therefore we must say white' is as predictable as it is dull.
01:14 AM on 09/26/2011
The benefit system is a great idea, as was the early manifestation of the EU, before the cold warriors and the US demanded it the failed states of Eastern Europe and Turkey.

Immigration is Labour's, with plenty of help for the low-cost worker, pro-business wing of the Tories, clusterfock, Britain needs immigrants about as much as I need cancer.
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09:28 AM on 09/26/2011
Well Britain needs growth to get out of this financial hole, and with a declining population that is hard to achieve. With birth rates below replacement rate and something of a crisis in education, I'm not sure you're right.

The City of London certainly disagrees with you HAlexandria. As long as Capital ignores national boundaries, there is a logic in labour doing so too. Otherwise won't jobs just be exported overseas, at a much greater cost to our economy?

Also, Turkey is much less of a failed state than, picking a name at random, Greece is.
10:02 PM on 09/25/2011
Ah, Labour having failed to find anything original to say, decides to pander to the lowest common denominator by picking a scapegoat for all our woes - the immigrant. What a brave and noble choice.
And judging from early comments, the link between immigrants and benefits has already been taken care of! Bullseye!
I could stick around to say that I work with immigrants, largely from Eastern Europe, and I see very little benefit seeking behaviour. Granted, when they find out that they are entitled to child benefit and tax credits, they want them. Who wouldn't? But this myth that they have come here for a life of daytime TV and income support really does have to go. I'll leave it to those in the know to debate the impact on public services (I'm in the charity sector) as there is no doubt that the volume exceeded all our expectations. However, I'm not sticking around, as I can't help but feel that threads about immigration, and the ugly vein they expose in so many people, will give me an ulcer. Goodnight and good luck (especially if you ain't a WASP!).
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09:23 AM on 09/26/2011
But if it's somebody else's fault, then it's not my fault is it?
03:10 PM on 09/26/2011
Sad but true. Scapegoat mentality taking hold. Life ain't perfect, so let's all blame the immigrants.
I wonder, in their private moments, who the North Koreans blame?
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flossophy
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09:52 PM on 09/25/2011
The source of the problem is the benefits regime.

The Labour party extended these goodies to the masses in exchange for political allegiance. And over the decades, the welfare state has depressed the birthrate... as it has done elsewhere in Europe. 

Since the welfare state requires a constantly expanding workforce to pr0p it up...  The Labour party, in all their 'brilliance', decided to open up mass immigration to bring in the workers needed to keep the ineffectual bIoated Labour regime afIoat. 

Apparently, the Labour geniuses didn't think that the immigrants would figure out how to game the benefits system.

The UK's decline is completely a self-infIicted phenomenon.... a gift from their big-hearted Labour socialists.
09:15 PM on 09/25/2011
The world added a billion people in the last 12 years and will add another billion people in the next 12 years. Where will all the jobs, food, water and oil come from to support this massive population?

Population growth can only work if there are the resources to support the growth in population.

The ever growing world population is not sustainable.
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09:22 AM on 09/26/2011
That's an opinion and a misplaced one, it's not a fact. Most studies think that the world population will stabilise in the next 50 years.

How many times do you Malthusians need to be proven wrong before you take the hint?
05:11 PM on 09/26/2011
That's 50 years too late. Humanity has been rejecting Malthus's thesis ever since he published it as accepting it would spell death for the underdog's hopes and dreams of a better life.

It's pretty much inevitable that Malthus be proven correct, and I'll have a much nicer life when the underdog's hopes and dreams follow them to the grave.
09:08 PM on 09/29/2011
Tell that to the billion plus people living on less than $2.00 a day. Tell that to the people starving in Africa today. Tell that to the legions of unemployed that can not find a job.

We have a food crisis, a water crisis, an oil crisis, a financial crisis and a population crisis.