Nigel Farage: Crisis Has Created 'German Dominated' Europe

Nigel Farage Europe

First Posted: 16/11/11 12:41 GMT Updated: 16/11/11 12:41 GMT   PA

Failure to tackle the eurozone crisis has produced a "German-dominated Europe", UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has said.

He claimed that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had taken charge because of the lack of leadership by a group of men - European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, Economic Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn, European Council President Herman Van Rompuy and Jean-Claude Juncker, the Luxembourg Prime Minister who is chairman of the eurozone group of EU countries.

"Who is in charge?" Mr Farage demanded during a European Parliament debate on the crisis.

"None of you have any democratic legitimacy for the roles you hold. Into this vacuum steps Angela Merkel, and we are now living in a German-dominated Europe, something this European Union was supposed to stop."

He said Europe's leaders had had the Greek Prime Minister "removed and replaced by a puppet government", and then "you decided that Silvio Berlusconi has to go and replaced him with Mario Monti, a former commissioner and fellow architect of this disaster, who is not even a member of parliament".

In a right of reply to the debate, a furious Mr Juncker - stabbing the air with his finger - attacked those he said were using the debate to score points along political lines, and discussing the merits or otherwise of Mrs Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy - the Berlin-Paris duo making the running in the eurozone crisis.

Mr Juncker complained that he had only been given five minutes to respond to points raised by MEPs, some of whom, he said, had used the debate to address areas they wanted to address, and not the issue on the agenda of "economic governance".

Mr Juncker said: "Is this a European parliament, or a parliament of domestic concerns? In which case you don't want to see me here."

Mr Van Rompuy also said he had come to the parliament to talk about "economic governance" in the run-up to another EU summit next month.

He said: "I stuck to that, I told you what we have done and what we are going to do. My task is to find a European-wide consensus and that is the role I endeavour to discharge."

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Failure to tackle the eurozone crisis has produced a "German-dominated Europe", UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has said. He claimed that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had taken charge ...
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10:37 PM on 11/20/2011
For this EU mess the UK dumped its Commonwealth of Nations... ? Remember the Commonwealth? An empire that had metamorphosed into a preferred trade group that lived within its means and supported each other in times of crisis? Nigel Farage is absolutely right. The EU is a monster that will devour the sovereignty of all its members under the German jackboot. Run whilst you still can!
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deluk
disgusted.
09:45 AM on 11/17/2011
Mr Farage has waited all his political life to say those words, he must be wetting himself with excitement.
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12:23 AM on 11/17/2011
Mr Farage is right to dispute this illusion of a united democratic Europe. As ONE who has enjoyed the privilege of the charitable state SANCTIONS know only too well that I am living in an Orwellian dystopian society and would prefer for Britain to return to a 'state of splendid Isolation'.
02:10 PM on 11/17/2011
"Splendid Isolation" is a historical myth, Britain has always been engaged or involved in european power politics for hundreds if not thousands of years. Not always for the better, but that's the fault of British reactionaries in the main. However we've had 66 years of relative peace in europe since the last conflict and institutions like the EU & NATO are responsible for that almost entirely. Farage is a knave who benefits greatly from what he so vociferously claims to oppose.
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12:39 AM on 11/20/2011
What is not a historical myth, is that I and other decent hard working law-abiding British citizens have experienced the pleasure and privilege of the charitable British state economic SANCTIONS of £4.00 a day to live off of for 6 months and barriers to obtaining a British passport which is my right as a British born citizen. If this is liberty as defined by being a member of a United Europe, as I said before I would rather return to an "Isolated Britain"?.
10:22 PM on 11/16/2011
The advantages to Germany and France to be in the EU is vast, but then they, esp Germany were both well placed to take full advantage, and created manufacturing infrastructure to take full advantage, well ahead of any britain created or expanded. I do not believe the UK gains enough from the EU to justify its cost, and that is no fault of the EU, but the fault of our politicians failure to back and build industry to take advantage, otherwise, i would be saying yes, we should be in the EU.
08:44 AM on 11/17/2011
Quote: "The advantages to Germany and France to be in the EU is vast, but then they, esp Germany were both well placed to take full advantage, and created manufactur­ing infrastruc­ture to take full advantage, well ahead of any britain created or expanded."

But this get to the very heart of the argument for Britain to be out of the EU. There is the belief that somehow Britain outside the EU will do what it failed to do in the past. Why, if before joining the EU, Britain failed to build up its manufacturing infrastructure like Germany would it do any better if it left the EU?

As you say it is a failure of British politicians and there is no reason to believe that situation will change for the better outside the EU.
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deluk
disgusted.
09:40 AM on 11/17/2011
Britain, after the second world war couldn't AFFORD to build up it's manufacturing infrastructure, Germany enjoyed the spoils of the defeated, by the time Britain could afford it, it was too late.
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
10:01 AM on 11/17/2011
message for DELUK:
You appear to conveniently forget that Britain received more funds under the Marshall Plan than Germany... so we could have afforded it, after all... we merely chose not to..

In the time of empire, Britain didn't have to consider competition; it dictated who was to sell to whom and at what price, and always to the advantage of British industry. After the days of empire (post-1945 really) this was largely dismantled, and British industry and commerce had to compete with others on an even footing; something that the majority of companies were simply not equipped to do...
Germany, by contrast, started from 'year zero', re-established their industries with astonishing speed and ability, planned for the future and the very long-term, so hence the situation we have today; a strong, vibrant and growing economy in Germany and increasing stagnation in countries such as the UK...
We should remain in the EU and contribute and participate considerably more
08:52 PM on 11/16/2011
Farage panders to the masses, to popular expectations. He is wrong. The most democratic institution of the EU is the European Parliament: 99 MEPs for 82 Mio Germans, 99 MEPs for 63 Mio French citizens, 6 MEPs for Luxembourg 0.6 Mio, ... 1 Commissioner for Cyprus, 1 Commissioner for Greece, 1 Commissioner for Belgium, 1 Commissioner for Germany, 1 Commissioner for the UK, ...

In reality all the European institutions discriminate German voters. Germany still gets disproportionate influence. And then there are nations where large parts of the population are employed by the EU or banks (Juncker's Luxembourg).

The European Union institutions need to be decentralised. One citizen (of a member state), one vote. At present a German (or British) vote counts less.
08:24 PM on 11/16/2011
Farage? is that British? sounds a bit like some foreign johnnie to me, can't be trusted then.
04:21 PM on 11/16/2011
Quote: "Failure to tackle the eurozone crisis has produced a "German-dominated Europe", UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has said."

Assuming Farage is right, what does it say about the British?

Despite all the big talk, and all the endless "we won the war" rhetoric, the British have sat on the sidelines assuming that they could pick and choose how to get involved. And hey presto the British now find that other countries are setting the agenda and this fool now complains.

There seems to be a belief that the EU should be run for the sole benefit of the UK but the reality is that rewards also bring responsibilities.
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rabidrightwatch
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04:44 PM on 11/16/2011
...well said...
08:27 PM on 11/16/2011
Apparently if you add up all the wars "won" by european powers, I think you'd find the French well ahead.
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
02:50 PM on 11/16/2011
Nigel Farage has only one agenda, and although he is rabidly anti-EU, he still takes the salary of an MEP... a bit inconvenient, that..!!

All unions, companies, organisations etc tend to be dominated by those who put in the most time, effort, dedication - in the case of the EU - money.

Germany is by far the largest contributor, both in cash terms and that of attracting business and exports in the entire EU. This is indisputable.

Is it any wonder, then, that they influence decision-making, fund most projects, bail out countries with comotose economies almost entirely on their own?

Nigel and his one-policy party can rant and rave all they like, and they will find every excuse to rock the EU boat as much and as often as they can... but it takes more than a one-policy party to run a country, and it's ever so easy to rant and rave on the sidelines, merely because you don't like the club...

Mr. Farage; if it's so dreadful, then why are you still accepting the salary? why don't you simply resign and give us all a break from your silly and pseudo-nationalistic drivel... you are merely an embarrassment to all thinking people...
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carneliancrystal
Do I believe all the propaganda of course I do
03:50 PM on 11/16/2011
True he is accepting the salary but at least he is saying and not afraid to say what others are afraid to say? which is what a majority of the British people are thinking! A lot of thinking people are subscribing to his way of thinking, the truth hurts as the saying goes. Democracy was being slowly eroded but has now gone out of the window already in Greece and Italy. How long before it reaches here? rabidrightwatch its you who is not thinking or at least thinking he is a danger to what you are thinking? we should get out before its too late! he will get my vote every time
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
04:08 PM on 11/16/2011
you're entitled to your opinion, but I challenge your assertion that NF is 'saying what the majority of British people are thinking'.
If this were true, we'd have lots of UKIP MPs in the Houses of Parliament, but their showing at the last election was risible. There's a lot of isolationist banter and a great deal of huffing and puffing, but no real advance on the political front. Strange, that, for a party which you assert 'speaks for the majority of the British people'; I think not, but please continue in your illusionary world, after all, democratic discourse and differing points of view are important.
Give me an internationalist world of cooperation and friendship over narrow national isolationism any day...
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11:35 PM on 11/16/2011
CarnelianCrystal, faved.  At first I thought he was insane to take that job...but his presence has provoked reactions that clearly illustrate that the EU is not concerned with democracy but rather with plutocracy (and protecting DE/FR banks, who continued to lend long after it was clear GR was in trouble, and what bank does that except one that's confident of being bailed out?)
02:31 PM on 11/16/2011
He should stick to flying