BMA Council Oppose Andrew Lansley's 'Chaotic' NHS Reforms

Nhs Chaos

First Posted: 25/11/11 06:11 Updated: 25/11/11 08:42   PA

Doctors' leaders have declared all-out opposition to the Government's NHS shake-up amid claims they will give too much influence to the private sector.

The British Medical Association (BMA) Council passed a motion expressing its "opposition to the whole Health and Social Care Bill" and calling for a public campaign of opposition.

Labour hailed the move as evidence of the Government's failure to secure the support of health professionals for the sweeping shake-up of health service commissioning.

The BMA signalled the intensification of its battle with ministers over the controversial legislation after being alarmed by recently issued draft guidance about commissioning. It said it contained "commercially-focused criteria" that would make it "almost impossible" for groups of doctors to avoid bringing in outside firms.

Urgent talks are being sought with Health Secretary Andrew Lansley over the shake-up. The BMA has previously said it would consider supporting the legislation with major revisions.

Dr Hamish Meldrum, chairman of the BMA Council, said: "A key plank of the Government's NHS reforms was to entrust GPs and other healthcare professionals to lead on the commissioning of services for patients to ensure local health needs were met.

"These latest proposals from the Government have the potential to seriously undermine this role, restricting the freedom and independence that clinically-led commissioning groups need to make locally sensitive, locally accountable, patient-focused decisions.

"Doctors tell us about the chaos they are already seeing on the ground as more and more change is implemented. The Government should be focusing on ensuring the skills and experience of staff in current PCT clusters are retained."

After debating the draft advice, the council passed the motion declaring its determination to see the legislation scrapped and calling for "rapid organisation of a public campaign of opposition". The BMA would now be "considering its next steps", it said.

A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "The BMA has misunderstood our plans for commissioning support. All commissioning decisions, including on the back-office functions of commissioning support, will be made by Clinical Commissioning Groups themselves and cannot be delegated to other organisations. So it will actually be BMA members, rather the Government, that determine what form commissioning support takes in future."

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Doctors' leaders have declared all-out opposition to the Government's NHS shake-up amid claims they will give too much influence to the private sector. The British Medical Association (BMA) Council...
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12:38 on 25/11/2011
Nasty tories keep your greedy, oily, grasping hands off OUR nhs. Not everything's for sale you know. How dare you hand over the health service which I pay my taxes for to the private sector. And how dare you ignore the pleas and advice of countless healthcare professionals just so you can push your sickening ideology through. You are disgusting and immoral!
12:14 on 25/11/2011
WHO WOULD YOU RATHER LISTEN TO,YOUR DOCTOR, OR A MONEY GRABBING TORY TOFF. YOU DONT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE,
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redsquad
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11:26 on 25/11/2011
I expect this from the Tory filth - They literally WANT the poorer classes kept in their place and dying earlier than the blue-bloods. It's Clegg and his cohorts that are reserved for the majority of my disgust. They've turned on the people in a heartbeat to cling to corrupt power... Should be charged with treason.
12:41 on 25/11/2011
Very well said-they are criminals in my opinion-the amount of lives their disgusting policies are going to ruin is shameful and they've done it all in the name of self-preservation.
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11:18 on 25/11/2011
'The Government should be focusing on ensuring the skills and experience of staff in current PCT clusters are retained'

The BMA are finally starting to 'get it'. Funny how they're changing their tune once they realise just how much power is being taken away from management AND GPs and other clinicians.

The Govt. are corrupt, lying, immoral and care little about the future of public healthcare. Just take a look at how much funding the Tories in particular have received from private healthcare groups and lobbyists. They have no shame whatsoever about being in the pockets of the very rich 1% of individuals and private corporations in this country.

The 1% will not stop until they have taken your healthcare away from you. You've been warned.

Don't forgive them, don't forget this. Expect action.

~A~
11:53 on 25/11/2011
Well said. The more privatization of the health service also means less public service workers striking over pensions and retirement issues which in the long run affect even those in the private sector. We need the unions and we need to wake up to what is going on.
11:14 on 25/11/2011
What's he trying to hide? For a year health minister Andrew Lansley has been refusing to publish a civil service report on the risks he's taking with the NHS. Now the Information Commissioner has ordered him to publish it. [1] But he could still keep it hidden for another month – until after more key votes have taken place. [2]

Email your MP now and tell them to demand this secret NHS report is made public immediately:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-secret-report

So let's all email our MPs now and tell them they have to force Lansley to publish his secret NHS risks report.

The Information Commissioner's ruling lists Andrew Lansley's arguments for why he wants this report kept secret. Lansley argued that releasing the report "would have jeopardised the success of the policy"! [3] He's kept us, MPs, and members of the Lords in the dark deliberately because he's worried that making these risks public could derail his plans.
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/nhs-secret-report

The NHS belongs to all of us. We all pay for it, and we all rely on it to care for us and our loved ones. We don't want it put at risk - that's exactly why we've been campaigning together all these months. We have a right to see what this report says.

Let's work together to get our MPs to force Lansley to publish the secret NHS risk report
11:06 on 25/11/2011
Wake-up UK ....this is the TORIES who are in power (forget the Lib-Dems they don't count). The Tories are in bed with the private health companies and in some cases they have a financial interest in the companies involved.
There is nothing wrong with the NHS buying in some extra services when necessary but this current obsession with giving private companies preference over Public services is worrying. You just have to look at what's happened with the Care industry and the energy companies. These privatisations were sold to us as a way of improving services and keeping costs down. The competion between providers was going to ensure that the customer got good service at the best possible price.....so what happened ? Shocking neglect and abuse of the vulnerable and people dying from the cold.
The energy companies got rich the Care providers stripped the assets and drove down standards in order to make profits.
Do we want this to happen to our NHS ? .... beware the Tories touting privatisation, we the taxpayer never win but the greedy fat cat Tory pals will do OK out of it.
11:48 on 25/11/2011
Very well said.
10:16 on 25/11/2011
No wonder the Tories kept their plans for the NHS quiet before the general election. What a shambles. This reorgnisation is being done for the benefit of private healthcare companies not the public.
09:39 on 25/11/2011
As with everything this government, and Labour, decide/decided to do, it is never, ever thought thoroughly through. It is always someones dream of how it should work. However, in real terms, it very, very rarely ever does.
09:36 on 25/11/2011
All this is not really going to make any difference..till the punters wake up and realise whats been and being done to the health service .Waiting lists are no indication of anything,when your GP cant even refer you for treatment of supposedly' minor/trivial and non urgent" conditions requiring any kind of surgical intervention..eg Cataracts/hip/knee problems/ear conditions in children leading to deafness and poor performance at school...to name a few. I am a recently retired GP and was fed up with writing repeatedly to different agencies for their permission to get any one treated..what a bloody waste of time !
What you need is to sack all these so called monitoring/referal vetting plonkers and save a lot of money so the little old lady with her cataracts can see /the poor kid can hear and the doctors can do some doctoring.
I think i need my knee sorting out so will probably need to go the private route.
Wake up you lot and light a little rocket under the meddling politicians...!!!
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08:13 on 25/11/2011
We have the finest healthcare in the world and it is the envy of the world, yet successive governments insist on tinkering with its organisation in an attempt at putting their mark on it for their place in history. Of course its management and day to day ability needs to be managed but to implant concepts of profit into a service which serves the population of this country to the degree it does is simply scandalous. It must be efficient and effective not competitive and is not in competition for profit. The perception that right wing thinking - as it very much is now - believes that there is a need to expose the service to private enterprise is simply opportunism to cherry pick for the benefit of the few. Without doubt the country needs to ensure that its people are properly cared for as healthcare is a right in any self-respecting society. It is not about affordability, privilege and preference and who should be first it is about availability on demand and meeting need where it is required of necessity. Death is not particular in providing for rich or poor, therefore, our healthcare should be as equally provided to meet need and not ability to pay; it must not become another benefit to be dangled as a Sword of Damocles to the poor.
08:41 on 25/11/2011
Finest in the world indeed! Have you been around the world lately? According to the WHO Britain is 17th in the World in terms of healthcare provision. France is number one. The NHS exists for the principal benefit of those who work in it, hence their reluctance to change things. I should know, I am a doctor myself. The incomes of NHS employees, managers and GPs and yes even nurses are now far too high. The GPs think labour's new contract was far too generous. 50% increase in salary and for much less work. No evenings, night calls or weekend work and a shorter working day. They could not believe their luck thanks to the stupid labour party. If I fall sick or need surgery I will go to the "finest healthcare provider in the world" it's only a ferry crossing away.
09:15 on 25/11/2011
Having sampled France's excellent healthcare system whilst on holiday, I am now very reluctant to seek any healthcare in UK. We are so far behind, and my local GPs are pretty useless.
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15:54 on 25/11/2011
You miss th epoint and that is the Tories would love to sell bits off just like they sold off our utilities, cherry picking the proposects that will make the most profit is their game under the guise of improvement. My point is that the NHS is just that a service for the benefit us all, it is not a benefit to be erroded in favour of the privileged who those who think theru money will but them advantage. As you are a doctor working in the NHS you must surely realise your contribution is important even your imput to reducing the overpaid in favour of medical service essential. At one time only the State provided for medical treatment until the GMC insisted that their memebrs should be able to offer private practise to those willing to pay for privilege because they could. That is not the way to run a National Health Care. If you think you over[aid then offer to take a cut in salary.
07:53 on 25/11/2011
Looks like Cameron has put the pressure on this guy, and have converted him to his new way of thinking, and no doubt he will have a peice of the action when the NHS is finally privatised, including Cameron and his most valuabled cronies, Its all about money and power for the super rich,

It's high time the British people take positive action and stop the break up of our NHS, something we cannot do without, It was hard before the NHS came into being, and it will be hard if it is privatised, as is the Dental system of today, where you can bet your life that there are a number of MP's involed in the system somewhere, with undeclared buisiness involvment, Crooks every one of them, and the only ones they think of are themselves and their illgotten lifestyles

We the people should act now before it is too late, and stop these crimminals privatising our wonderful NHS, .....What has happend to the Original Health Board that ran out National Health, it's quite simple really, they have been taken over by greed and industry, our top of the range medication is no longer available the the ordinary people, simply as the can demand a better price in other parts of the world, and we the surfs if you like are prescribed the poorer quality medication, which is the cause of a massive increase in side affects from the inferior medication that we are forced to suffer
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07:51 on 25/11/2011
The Tories have made too many promises already to go back on this bill. Mark Britnell, one of David Cameron's chief advisors on Health, said to a group of executives in New York a few months ago that the NHS would be shown 'no mercy' in the next two years and that this would be a big opportunity for the private 'for profit' sector and that the NHS would move from being a 'state deliverer of care' to a 'state insurance provider'. Remember, this bill removes the obligation of the government to provide healthcare for all. Do we want our health service run by US companies out to make huge profits? The NHS will be controlled by GPs who are not employed by the NHS and are businessmen and women whose primary loyalty is to their business not their patients. They will undoubtedly be open to 'inducements' from private companies similar to the 'inducements' Andrew Lansley has already received from private health care companies. Private companies will choose the easy aspects of the NHS and will start off with cheap prices which will then escalate until they will be more expensive than the current NHS (for evidence see the rising costs to the consumer of other privatised industries: energy, water, rail etc). The NHS will be left with the expensive ,difficult procedures and will be underfunded leading to patient rationing. Later, Andrew Lansley will retire from parliament to the boards of several private health companies.
07:28 on 25/11/2011
As a lay person, my decision has to be based on what information I can get hold of and my gut feeling. However as things developed today I am feeling that my decisions a coming down to who I trust most, the medical profession or politicians. No contest for me. When I go to the Doctors with a problem I trust what he says and take whatever medication he subscribes. Against that I would not trust a politician if he said Christmas was Dec 25th. These reforms have always seemed as if their main objective was to save the Government money and patient care a secondary concern. After reading the comments from the GMC this opinion is reinforced. So I say everyone who cares about our NHS staying free of charge at the point of need, should oppose these Governmental proposals and support the GMC and get them stopped. I say this because I am concerned what kind of NHS (if any) will be there for my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. This is the danger point we must pressure our MP’s to stop this insanity becoming law.
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07:07 on 25/11/2011
"Doctors' leaders have declared all-out opposition to the Government's NHS shake-up amid claims
they will give too much influence to the private sector."

And they are absolutely correct - the government is doing its best to bring down the NHS and introduce American style care - great if you can afford it, too bad. The leading cause of bankruptcy in the US is medical expenses.

Don't buy into what the government is selling - because in the end Britain you will be left holding an empty bag and facing a big bill - which only you will be responsible for.