Could Video Games Be Forced To Comply With The Geneva Convention On Human Rights?

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Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 05/12/11 15:05 GMT Updated: 05/12/11 16:32 GMT

Violent war-themed video games could be subject to The Geneva and Hague war crimes conventions, according toThe International Committee of the Red Cross.

While many art forms incorporate extreme violence, some have argued, that unlike other mediums, games allow users to participate in acts of violence and should face greater regulation as a result.

During the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent in Geneva, the committee discussed the influence of video games on the public perception of violence.

According to reports, the committee also discussed whether war crimes standards should apply to the virtual victims of war video games.

Taken to its most extreme conclusion, that could theoretically mean applying the same standards for virtual victims of war - pixels and sprites - as human combatants and civilians.

"While the Movement works vigorously to promote international humanitarian law worldwide, there is also an audience of approximately 600 million gamers who may be virtually violating international humanitarian law (IHL)," the Red Cross's description of the event read.

"Exactly how video games influence individuals is a hotly debated topic, but for the first time, Movement partners discussed our role and responsibility to take action against violations of IHL in video games. In a side event, participants were asked: 'What should we do, and what is the most effective method?'"

The debate could potentially lead to the committee asking developers to adhere to news rules, or even the Red Cross itself lobbying governments to adopt greater regulation on what can and cannot occur in video games.

Previous reports, including a 2007 study ('The Playing By The Rules Project') by the Geneva-based TRIAL, expressed fears that games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, in which users play as soldiers who are able to kill innocent civilians, undermine real-world efforts to promote humanitarian law.

In a report revealing the latest Red Cross discussions, Gawker Media-operated website Kotaku quoted a member of the committee as saying that it was too early for the Red Cross to publicly air its views on the matter.

Alexandra Boivin, head of the Civil Society Relations Unit's Department of International Law and Cooperation for the committee, said:

"Unfortunately, it is too early in the discussion to share our views publicly. We will be posting some information on the ICRC's website in the weeks to come, with a view to stating and explaining our interest in the topic."

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Violent war-themed video games could be subject to The Geneva and Hague war crimes conventions, according toThe International Committee of the Red Cross. While many art forms incorporate extreme v...
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clsmithj
Wanna Raise Some Hell
09:54 AM on 12/09/2011
So the new article sites that subject of this story says this story is false.
08:43 PM on 12/07/2011
One question did not the IRC have some investments in a certain arms company a few years back me thinks its a case of the pot calling the kettle black where i shoot at pixels they invest in the real thing not bad do as i say not as i do me thinks
03:34 AM on 12/13/2011
The ICRC has no investment in any arms trade. It's independent, neutral and exclusively humanitarian. Its non-political stance earns it the trust from the US Armed Forces and Taliban for example, allowing it to work freely to help victims of armed conflicts. You can check out its annual reports online. Plus, it does not want to ban FPS/War video games as such. Have to admit that this thing with video game has been grossly spun out of control. Just saying.
08:35 PM on 12/07/2011
LOL some spotty kid from London has been charged with crimes against mankind he killed during an intense fire fight on the Xbox ,,,,,,,,,,,what?????????seems the nuts are losing the threads IRC go take a rest and look at the real killing in Syria ,Iran ,etc etc
08:22 PM on 12/07/2011
Adding blood to flesh is a way to mitigate the 'dangers' of flesh alone… We are indeed more insensitive to the depiction of violence and maiming than to the depiction of sex scenes. Aren't we?
07:47 PM on 12/07/2011
How many human rights violators (on the scale we are talking about) have been gamers? Furthermore, how can you accurately blame video games for this? I don't think Hitler would play COD if he was around today. Ridiculous.
05:24 PM on 12/07/2011
Finally! Someone willing to apply decency to fiction!
On next weeks agenda, Burning Lolita in Geneva.
That'll teach Bashir Asad to write fiction!
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Justin Seybert
...but why male models?
07:50 PM on 12/06/2011
Occupy Imaginationland!
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Father Jerusalem
I like pie. And bacon. But bacon pie would be odd.
05:49 PM on 12/06/2011
I've been playing video games since I was 10 years old. I'm 31 now.

I don't go around jumping on turtles, or cutting down my neighbors' lawns to try and find rupees. I don't walk around town and suddenly get drawn into a random battle, and I don't take a M-16 and start hosing down enemy combatants on the streets of Portland.

Violent video games do not make you violent. There is no study that can show an actual causal link between video games and violence. It is, in fact, just the opposite.

When I have had a hard day, I come home and play some Dead Island - choosing to vent my anger on pixelated zombies rather than actual human beings. Many people I know do the same thing.

Anger and violence are real issues that affect real people every day. Stop putting the blame on video games. All that does is give someone an excuse for when they snap. "It wasn't MY fault, it was Call of Duty's fault!"
12:23 AM on 12/07/2011
I've had random encounters all over Portland, you must not get out enough. Come on, don't the cops in Riot Gear make you want to go out and fight some baddies? It will be like a real life video game, Occupiers vs. PoPo. Let me guess, you're too busy playing video games to go out an put the smack down on anyone? This is exactly what they are trying to stop. Seneseless animated violence when you could be out doing the real thing.
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Oregonian76
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05:04 PM on 12/06/2011
So when my 4-year old and my 2-year old are pretending to gut each other with their Nerf swords, or when they're shooting each other in the head point blank with Nerf bullets... should I be reporting the activity so that someone can discipline them for violations?

This is ridiculous. Laws that govern actual, human interactions CANNOT extend to the pretend world. If we allow something like this, then it's step 1 on the road to regulating thought and intention. Is that REALLY the world we want to live in?
04:11 PM on 12/06/2011
The focus shouldn't be on what is possible and not possible to do in video games, but present consequences for Geneva Conventions violations in the game.
05:30 PM on 12/07/2011
Its up to the developers surely... remember The Game That Didn't Give You Any Points For Shooting the Dogs? Even tjough they would follow your sprite around and bite it? I think it was called hostage.

More recently, Die Hard Trilogy would deduct points for shooting civillians at Dulles airport. Cue one guy who would run across the front of scene in slow motion doing Jazz Hands while terrorists would be busy pumping rounds into you.

It's called 'challenging gameplay'.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:47 PM on 12/06/2011
Let's worry about enforcing them in the cases of flesh-and-blood armed players first.

Once that's all cleared up, maybe it'll be time to worry about professionals using combat simulators, and amateurs playing with toys.

My five-year-old can wield a mean plastic pirate sword, against all manner of non-combatants. Does he need to visit the Hague?
02:40 PM on 12/06/2011
Don't we have bigger problems in our world for the red cross to be focusing on? This is beyond the pale of logic. In a world rife with hunger, disaster, and war the very organization which touts peace is going after individuals peacefully entertaining themselves in the privacy of their homes. What measures exactly do the RC expect gamers to go to to adhere to the Convention guidelines? Go back after each round of Modern Warfare 3 and clear the map of all un-detonated bouncing bettys and claymores? Add a required mini-game after each match of Battlefield 3 in which both factions must revisit the conflict area to rebuild the village they destroyed? Someone obviously has too much time on their hands.
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halcyondaze
02:23 PM on 12/06/2011
This is ridiculous. If people are that worried about the effect of violence in video games, try a little regulation in the home first. Stop your young kids from playing instead of relying on government or legal bodies to do so. Take some responsibility and let those of us who find video games to be a great stress reliever to play in peace.
02:59 PM on 12/06/2011
What's silly about this claim is the fact that the Red Cross isn't denouncing the games for inciting violent behavior, they are stating that since the game is "virtual war" the activities within the software are subject to the rules set forth in 1949 by the Fourth Geneva Convention. These guidelines, among other things regulate the the participating countries in the treatment of prisoners of war, treatment of civilians in conflict zones, protection for the wounded, and further accords go as far as disallowing certain weapons such as "set and forget" explosive traps, use of shotguns to reduce human targets, and so on. The intent of these treaties was to lessen the loss of life and suffering in war, not to add restrictions to software. I agree, ridiculous.
02:22 PM on 12/06/2011
It's already been proven that video games do not make people violent. A culture of war on the other hand is responsible for many video games.
stumanchu35
Tolerance is a one way street.
02:12 PM on 12/06/2011
How much money does the USA dump into this waste of time called the geneva convention?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:20 PM on 12/06/2011
Ah, the voice of reason...