Amanda Knox, Italian Court Reveals Why It Released 'Foxy Knoxy' Over Meredith Kercher Murder

Amanda Knox

First Posted: 15/12/11 19:20 GMT Updated: 15/12/11 19:46 GMT   PA

The Italian appeals court that cleared Amanda Knox over the murder of British student Meredith Kercher has given the reasons for its ruling.

It said the evidence that had been used by a lower court to convict the American and her Italian boyfriend of murder did not hold up.

Those shortcomings included no murder weapon, faulty DNA, an inaccurate time for the killing, and insufficient proof that Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were even at the location where the crime occurred.

Ms Kercher was found dead in a pool of blood on her bedroom floor in Perugia, Italy, on November 2, 2007.

Knox and Sollecito, who had just begun dating at the time of the murder, were arrested several days later, then convicted in what prosecutors' portrayed as a drug-fuelled sexual assault. They were sentenced to 26 years and 25 years, respectively, in proceedings that made headlines around the world.

On Thursday, the court cited among the other failed elements of the prosecutors' case DNA evidence, which was undermined during a re-examination in the appeals trial, and the failure to conclusively identify the murder weapon.

The appellate court even contradicted the lower court's time of death, saying it happened at around 10.15pm and not after 11pm. The court said not only had the "building blocks" used to construct the case failed, but the material necessary to construct the case was missing.

The only elements of the prosecutors case that were proven, the appeals court said, were the charge of slander against Knox, who was convicted of falsely accusing a bar owner for Kercher's murder, and the fact that the Knox and Sollecito alibis did not match.

But that the alibis were out of synch "is very different" from the prosecutors' claim of false alibis, the court said.

The proven elements combined, the court said, are not enough to support convictions against Knox and Sollecito.

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The Italian appeals court that cleared Amanda Knox over the murder of British student Meredith Kercher has given the reasons for its ruling. It said the evidence that had been used by a lower court...
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megandvc
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
12:28 AM on 01/26/2012
BE WARNED: There is a person posting here named ORRALY, there is something wrong with him and he should be avoided at all costs. He is a stalker. Good Luck People.
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Stacyhs
09:03 PM on 01/04/2012
I find it interesting, and disconcerting, that the UK site of Huff Po is still referring to Amanda Knox as "Foxy Knoxy". Isn't it about time that nickname, with all its negative connotations the Daily Mail bestowed on it, be retired?
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similouis
09:58 PM on 01/04/2012
It's useful to distinguish her from the other 124 "Amanda Knoxes" in the US, some of whom also have criminal records.

Stacyhs said: Asking for the meaning of something in the Bible isn't the same as claiming she'd "never heard of" it.

Actually, she claimed she never heard of it.
From Online Times, Nov 15, 2007:
"He (Father Scarabattoli) said that although she had attended a Jesuit school in the US, Ms Knox had told him that she did not believe in anything and had had no religious education. Father Scarabattoli said that Ms Knox was "looking for meaning in her life. I told her that life was like a train journey in which you are heading for a station immersed in fog and all the passengers have different expectations." He said that he had given her a copy of the Italian Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana with a commentary on a passage by St Luke on the Resurrection. "She asked me what the Resurrection was," the priest said, adding that he would take her a copy of the Gospels on his next visit.""

Seattle Prep Theology requirements:
Grade 9 - Scripture, Church History, World Religions
Grade 10 - Catholic Social Teaching, Global Community, Service
Grade 11 – Junior Theology: Church/Service/Spirituality
Grade 12 - Two semesters of religion from the following semester courses: Faith in Action, Bioethics, Ignatian Themes in Scripture & Story, Psychology of Christian Relating, World Religions
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Stacyhs
10:18 PM on 01/04/2012
>It's useful to distinguish her from the other 124 "Amanda Knoxes" in the US, some of whom also have criminal records.<

She has no criminal record in the US. Slander is a misdemeanor, as you well know. As for the rest of this statement, it's just another example of your unrelenting vitriol against the Knox family.

"She asked what the Resurrection was."

NO WHERE does it say she "claim she never heard of it". She asked what it was. That could mean a lot of things such as "What is its meaning" As you say, she had a lot of religious instruction at the school so it's ludicrous to think she'd never heard of it.
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Dale McLerran
04:32 AM on 01/09/2012
Using "Foxy Knoxy" to refer to Amanda Knox serves no purpose in distinguishing her from any other Amanda Knox. If that were the point, one could specify lineage or simply state "Amanda Knox, flatmate of Meredith Kercher in Perugia". No, "Foxy Knoxy" is something that media glommed onto to sell a story about the she-devil who seems like the girl next door. Continuing this only perpetuates this image.

Stacyhs is correct that asking "What is the resurrection?" can mean that she is interested in a deep theological discussion. Paul, in 1st Corinthians, refers to the "mystery of the resurrection." Do you want to advance an argument that Paul did not understand the resurrection?

There are several other things to consider as well. At the time that Amanda and Father Scarabatto­li had these discussions, Amanda was not fluent in Italian. It is possible that she was trying to say one thing, but her language skills were insufficient to convey what she wanted to state.

Consider, too, that discussions with someone wearing the collar are supposed to be privileged. To the extent that we know about conversations between Amanda Knox and Father Scarabatto­li, that indicates some violation of confidentiality. It brings into question the ethics of the Father. That, in turn, suggests that the Father may have motive that clouds his representation of what Amanda did and did not say.

Again, simi, your case is nonsupportable. About time to go onto something else, don't you think?
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similouis
10:01 PM on 01/04/2012
It’s not to her credit to have accepted financial aid to a Jesuit high school, granted for the purpose of furthering Catholic education, and after four years of mandatory theology courses, to make a claim to the prison chaplain that she had no formal RE, nor to have even heard of the most fundamental tenet of the Christian faith - the resurrection of Christ. Nor is it to her family’s credit to have concealed their resources so she would qualify for financial aid.

Personally, I think she was lying to and manipulating the priest.
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Stacyhs
06:39 AM on 01/05/2012
She didn't "accept financial aid"; she WON a scholarship. Seattle Prep does not award these scholarships based on financial need: “Each year Seattle Prep awards a small number of St. Ignatius and Honors-at-Entrance Scholarships to incoming freshmen who have demonstrated excellence in academics, leadership, spirituality, and/or service in middle school.” No financial need requirement. So much for your baseless accusation that her family “concealed their resources so she would qualify for financial aid.”
You can’t show me where she said she had “not even heard of the--resurrection of Christ” because it’s not in the article. That’s your spin. She asked “what the Resurrection was”. You’ve taken this literally (because it suits your needs), while it could easily be a request for an explanation. As the priest said, they “discussed the Resurrection” and “philosophy, history and the meaning of life”. Additionally, the conversation took place IN ITALIAN at a time (between Nov 6 and 15, 2007) when Amanda spoke only rudimentary Italian and she could have formed her question in the only Italian words she knew at the time.
But, as usual, your need to demonize Knox lends you to twisting everything into a negative, even calling a scholarship “financial aid” and relying on one article reporting what one person said another said. I believe that’s called hearsay.

As with Homeking40, I am no longer going to respond to you. One cannot reason with the unreasonable
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Tom Airhart
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
11:29 PM on 01/12/2012
You'll never know for certain though, will you? Knox will, however.
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jackbutler5555
10:07 PM on 12/21/2011
If I may be so bold to remind folks here that the appeals court found the accused not guilty and explained why. That explanation did not include any mention about U.S. justice, U.S. wars, Abu Graib, Guantanamo, etc. It found many, many faults with the Perugia authroties handling of the Kercher murder case. There are some here -- perhaps in frustration with the criticisms of the Perugia prosecutors whom they thought were infallible -- are seeking reasons to change the subject. If they were to focus their attention on evidence the accused were where they needed to be in order to have committed the murder, they might be become more effective
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Thismortalcoil
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11:57 PM on 12/21/2011
Well said!
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BIllyDelyon
Last leaf fallen bare earth where green was born..
12:22 AM on 12/22/2011
Great post as usual Jack...
09:03 AM on 12/21/2011
If it were not that there is a vast section of this country, the silent minority, which thinks and speaks with logic, fairness and revulsion against Illegal War, I would think we are seriously losing our grip as a nation.
This obsesssion with going to war is like one huge war comic, and the people who read it are at that level of intelligence ,
Free speech is fine, but too much license is madness. Our new generation must be protected from the constant battering of their minds by the Violence Brigade.
Only one man can see this and also have the power to reverse it. Our President. Please do something before it is too late. I can tell you, people in other countries do NOT admire it - whatever we are told!
The same madness leads to a war about anything that is not in our interests. Americans apparently can now roam the world sure that whatever they do, they will be rescued by a strong and warlike defence...innocent-or NOT.
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jackbutler5555
10:09 PM on 12/21/2011
So, what limits do you have in mind to restrict free speech. Specifically.
06:46 AM on 12/22/2011
I already told you...
Stop the obsession with violence, aggression and thence, War!
ZEB
never fear the zeb is ere
02:00 PM on 12/27/2011
Jack he has no limits.
What he says is right and what we say is wrong.
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Stacyhs
05:39 PM on 01/04/2012
Exactly what would you like Pres. Obama to do?
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
08:01 PM on 12/17/2011
Does any one else see the irony of Americans complaining about other Nations' legal systems in the wake of Guantanamo and Abu Graib?
07:03 AM on 12/18/2011
@ideaville
"Does any one else see the irony of Americans complainin­g about other Nations' legal systems in the wake of Guantanamo and Abu Graib?"
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The abuse of prisoners at Abu Graib was a crime, certainly. That you would use it to try to excuse sending innocent people to prison is appalling.

Obama is treating Guantanamo as a POW camp. If you consult the laws of war, you'll find that POW camps are legal.
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I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
11:17 AM on 12/18/2011
Let's be quite clear, I am no advocate of sending innocents to prison. The issue I have is with the way the US applies pressure to other sovereign states to impose it's will.
For example the damage caused to Anglo-American relations when Scotland freed Al Magrahi on compassionate grounds which was perfectly legal.
I'm sure under your new "laws of war" you can justify Guantanamo, the best recruiting tool ever for Islamic extremism, however, do you remember Obama's pledge to close it as soon as he took office?
Even under your constitution, it is illegal to hold prisoners in the way their have been held at Guantanamo, that is why it is not on US soil.
Amanda Knox was convicted by a legal system which would apply to any Italian or Foreign National in Italy, under the same system, she was released on appeal.
There is normally the possibility of another appeal under Italian law, but the general concensus is that the US will not extradite her.
As for innocents in prison, I think you will find you have had your fair share of questionable convictions including the guy who was just executed.
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BIllyDelyon
Last leaf fallen bare earth where green was born..
08:25 PM on 12/20/2011
What country to you hail from out of curiosity?
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
10:49 PM on 12/20/2011
Great Britain and proud of it!
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I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
09:38 AM on 12/16/2011
The thing that amazes me in the comments on here is an overwhelming reaction from Americans that the rest of the World are somehow incapable of running their own affairs without American assisstance. The Italian courts found Amanda Knox guilty under their legal system, it was not a 5 minute trial and a great deal of evidence was presented, at the end of it a jury found her and Solecito guilty. For many people it was obvious that the Italians would never be able to keep a pretty American girl in prison, hence the disgust of many Italians when her conviction was overturned. Their are many comments on here suggesting that Europeans are jealous of Americans, so I'm curious what it is we are jealous of, is it your marvellous free healthcare system or the fact that you can buy a shotgun in Walmart? I guess the Italians were lucky you didn't invade them.
05:15 PM on 12/16/2011
@ideaville
"an overwhelmi­ng reaction from Americans that the rest of the World are somehow incapable of running their own affairs without American assisstance."
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There is certainly merit to that view.

After the way Italy has flagrantly kept an innocent American honors student in prison for four years, with any attempt to discuss the evidence resulting in snarls that Americans should mind our own business, there is a very good case to be made that the US should take over the legal systems of other countries -- especially the legal systems of third-world nations like Italy.
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
05:40 PM on 12/16/2011
Thank you so much for living up to my expectations! Do you think America will ever have a generation that doesn't get sent off to war? The World doesn't need America to be it's Police Force. Here in Britain it's about time we parted company with your good selves.
Every missile we fired during the Libyan conflict immediately triggered an order for a new one from the US, now we have blown up $10 houses with $1million missiles, you are ready to step in and charge to rebuild! War is huge business for the US and as long as you have poor people with no healthcare system you will always have cannon fodder. My advice to american students studying abroad, don't kill fellow students!
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05:41 PM on 12/16/2011
Thank you so much for living up to my expectations!
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ideaville
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05:50 PM on 12/16/2011
For those proclaiming Knox to be completely innocent, please review the evidence against her.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15036490
The Italian investigation was indeed flawed and evidence mishandled, however the fact that some evidence became allegedly "unreliable" does NOT prove innocence, it just makes the conviction harder.
But then what would we know here in 3rd world Europe?
01:07 AM on 12/17/2011
@ideaville
"For those proclaimin­g Knox to be completely innocent, please review the evidence against her."

There has never been any evidence against her, or against Raffaele.

The BBC article you linked is a long list of falsehoods. Bloody footprints??? The ones that tested negative for blood??

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"The Italian investigat­ion was indeed flawed and evidence mishandled­, however the fact that some evidence became allegedly "unreliabl­e" does NOT prove innocence, it just makes the conviction harder."

The fact that there is zero evidence against them makes conviction impossible in any civilized nation.

And the strong evidence that Guede did it alone, does prove Amanda's and Raffaele's innocence.
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Dale McLerran
06:11 AM on 12/21/2011
My reply about BBC coverage that you linked to was meant to address this message. I always thought of the BBC as having integrity in their reporting. Apparently, that is not true anymore!
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Marchmont
09:11 AM on 12/16/2011
The Perugia appellate court has finally given its reasons for reversing a lower court’s conviction of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito of Meredith Kercher’s murder. Presiding Judge Claudio Hellmann said the guilty verdict "was not corroborated by any objective element of evidence. The sudden choice of these two young people and the belief they must have decided to do evil for evil's sake is a disturbing lapse of common sense and judicial procedure.” There was no murder weapon, faulty DNA, an inaccurate time for the killing, and no credible proof Knox and Sollecito were even at the location where the crime occurred. Hopefully this draws a line under one of the most disturbing miscarriages of justice seen in Europe in recent years.
08:46 AM on 12/20/2011
Fine. This is all true.

But all knowing observers agree that this judge has left out a TON of significant clues and evidence that led to the original verdict.
THIS IS NOT fair !
05:35 AM on 12/21/2011
@homeking40
"But all knowing observers agree that this judge has left out a TON of significan­t clues and evidence that led to the original verdict."
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Hellmann included everything that wasn't fake.

What led to the original verdict was the resolve of corrupt judges to convict two people they knew were innocent.
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Dale McLerran
06:26 AM on 12/21/2011
Massei rejected just about every defense request in the first trial and ruled in favor of the prosecution at every turn. Hellman asked independent experts to weigh in on the evidence. And you question what is fair?
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European1919
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05:56 AM on 12/16/2011
Courts have been known to have been wrong.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:17 AM on 12/16/2011
Indeed. Even appeals courts. But eventually, hopefully, the system works.
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jackbutler5555
09:06 PM on 12/21/2011
Was this appeals court wrong? What did it get wrong?
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Stacyhs
07:02 AM on 01/04/2012
As it did, finally.
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Stacyhs
07:03 AM on 01/04/2012
Indeed. And thus the appeals courts.
04:43 AM on 12/16/2011
all this arguing about who has lied, who has been hard done by, who has or hasnt done what etc etc, there is someone who hasnt had any justice and can do nothing to put it right... Meredith. When will she get the justice she deserves?
08:19 AM on 12/16/2011
Since the man whose fingerprints and DNA were all over the murder scene, including on Meredith's body, has already been convicted, the answer would seem to be 'last year'.
05:08 PM on 12/16/2011
@lbrhants
"When will she get the justice she deserves?"
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She won't. The efforts to frame Amanda and Raffaele resulted in Meredith's killer getting two huge sentence reductions, and he's now serving a very light sentence.

If you wanted justice for Meredith, the focus should never have been on framing innocent people.
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Dale McLerran
06:30 AM on 12/21/2011
Well said!!! The people who dismiss Rudy Guede's involvement in favor of chasing after specters are the ones who deny Meredith the justice she deserves!

Get a clue, folks. Vent your venom at Mignini, the criminal prosecutor who just had to puff himself up for the international stage when he had already been convicted of abuse of office, for mishandling this from the start!
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Me Now
04:06 AM on 12/16/2011
Here is the truth. The INCOMPETENT police though they could blame the American and everyone would agree. Because Euro-pee-ans are jelaous!
05:51 AM on 12/16/2011
Jealous? Of what?
AstorsCatfish
Family entertainment? Bollucks!!
06:25 AM on 12/16/2011
The big cars and low gasoline prices. And how the women shave their armpits.
08:19 AM on 12/16/2011
It must be of the USUAL fall back arguement, jealousy, maybe that's something to do with not having a 200 year old history or that they have bigger food than us EU lot...
06:33 AM on 12/16/2011
Europeans are jealous of what? The most reviled hated nation on the planet, I don`t think so. I have travelled the world and I can say from experience that the USA comes up as the mosr detested and hated nation in the whole world. It may be a sad fact, but it is also a true fact even if it may disappoint many decent American citizens.
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
06:12 PM on 12/16/2011
I doubt it, most Americans can't point to the "rest of the world" on a map!
Saying that, I have met some great Americans overseas that are constantly embarrassed by their idiot politicians!
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07:22 AM on 12/21/2011
Hated and reviled may be, but people from all over the world want to move there, so what's that about.

My fellow Europeans, let's not fight stupid with stupid! America is a great place, so is Europe. Some Americans are dumb as sticks, most aren't. Italy is fantastic and Italian justice has decided that AK is innocent. I see no reason to question that verdict.
03:53 AM on 12/16/2011
Italy prosecutors sound like Mexico...when a foreigner is murder, it was the victims fault...
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Itsbeenalongday
Eliminating poverty is smart business
03:26 AM on 12/16/2011
The thing the Italian police do best of all is wear sunglasses.
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David Daisy May Boldock
Yorkshire..Gods Own Country
02:57 AM on 12/16/2011
None of this lot adds up and she for my money is guilty as hell and her trying to implicate an innocent man for her own selfish ends makes her more than culpable!
AstorsCatfish
Family entertainment? Bollucks!!
05:44 AM on 12/16/2011
The only detailed account I have heard of the basis for the claim that she was trying to implicate an innocent man has been a very prolonged "interrogation" that, after something like 36 hrs non-stop of 12 officers tag teaming her, had her "just pretend you were there - what do you see" . It's fair game to ask me to pretend. But what you get is just random imaginings, unless you're the Italian police - in which case it's a confession and accusation. If this is an accurate account, then I'd say it's the police who are lying. (The same ones who avoided videotaping their activities. Wonder why?)
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similouis
03:21 PM on 12/18/2011
LoL @ 36 hrs non-stop of 12 officers tag teaming her...just lies perpetrated by the FOA!

According to her own testimony in the original trial -
She voluntarily showed up at the police station at 10:35 to accompany Raffael who had been asked to come in for questions. While she waited for him she had time to call her Italian roommate Filomena and chatted with her, she did some homework, and only after some time, after Raffael told police that Amanda left his flat at 9pm and returned at 1am police thereby rescinding her alibi, police started questioning her. At 1:45 she signed a statement accusing Lumumba of sexually assaulting and murdering Meredith, and admitting to covering her ears to drown out Meredith's screams. Thus this took less than 3 hours, not 36 hours! She was not in custody and there was no requirement for police to videotape her (there are only a handful of jurisdictions in the US in which witness interviews are videotaped).

You can't overlook the withdrawn alibi as the source of pressure on her. When police questioned her as to whom she sent the text to arrange a meeting with (she meant the text as "see you later") she exploited their misunderstanding and named Patrick as the murderer.
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06:36 AM on 12/16/2011
Unfortunately, it seems the Americans attitude is simple. Pay for, or put enough pressure on others, and sooner or later we get what me want. That in the real world is called bullying, and that is exactly what the USA is best known for.
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05:21 PM on 12/16/2011
@paphos44
"Unfortunat­ely, it seems the Americans attitude is simple. Pay for, or put enough pressure on others, and sooner or later we get what me want. That in the real world is called bullying, and that is exactly what the USA is best known for."
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Any world where non-Americans believe it is OK to put innocent Americans in prison, is a world where America has the right to smash any nation that intentionally puts innocent Americans in prison.
01:51 AM on 12/16/2011
just another another foreign stitch up then