Stephen Lawrence Murder: Judge Urges Police To Continue Hunt For Killers' Accomplices

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First Posted: 04/01/12 16:02 GMT Updated: 04/01/12 16:14 GMT

The judge in the Stephen Lawrence murder trial has urged police not to "close the file" on the case as the dead teenager's father called on convicted killers Gary Dobson and David Norris to turn other suspects in.

Mr Justice Treacy made his appeal as Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe said that the remaining culprits "should not rest easily in their beds".

Gary Dobson, 36, and David Norris, 35, received life sentences at the Old Bailey today for the racist murder of Mr Lawrence nearly 19 years ago.

Dobson, who is already serving a five-year sentence for drug-dealing, was sentenced to at least 15 years and two months while Norris was given a minimum of 14 years and three months for the murder, which the judge said was a "terrible and evil crime".

It is understood that police plan to meet next week to assess where the case stands.

In court, Mr Justice Treacy called forward Detective Chief Inspector Clive Driscoll, who has been the senior officer in the case for a number of years.

He told him that the public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Mr Lawrence's death had "shamed and humbled" the Met, but praised the hard work done in recent years.

The judge went on: "At least a measure of justice has been achieved at last. However, the convictions of Gary Dobson and David Norris will not, I hope, close the file on this murder. On the evidence before the court, there are still three or four other killers of Stephen Lawrence at large.

"Just as advances in science have brought two people to justice, I hope the Metropolitan Police will be alert to future lines of inquiry, not only based on developments in science but perhaps also information from those who have been silent so far, wherever they may be."

Earlier, he had sentenced Dobson and Norris in a packed but silent courtroom, saying that the murder was committed "for no other reason than racial hatred" and condemning the pair for showing "no remorse" over their crime and for lying in court.

Mr Justice Treacy told the pair: "A totally innocent 18-year-old youth on the threshold of a promising life was brutally cut down in the street in front of eyewitnesses by a racist, thuggish gang.

The evidence in the trial could not prove who wielded the knife, but he said that whoever used it had done so with Dobson and Norris's "knowledge and approval".

"You were both members of that gang. I have no doubt at all that you fully subscribed to its views and attitudes."

When it was over, Dobson left speedily, stepping over Norris who had bent down to pick up his papers.

Norris then kissed his hand and offered it up to the public gallery in a thumbs-up sign before he too was led from the court.

As the judge rose to leave, a few people began clapping in the public gallery.

Dobson's father, Stephen, called down to the court: "Shame on all of you."

It is understood that a decision will be made on whether to keep the men at Belmarsh prison, in south east London, where Norris has previously been beaten up.

After sentencing, the Press Association reported that Neville Lawrence said the sentencing of Gary Dobson and David Norris was "only one step in a long, long journey" and called for the other killers to be brought to justice as well.

Addressing reporters outside the Old Bailey, he said: "One of my greatest hopes is that these people have now realised that they have been found out, and they are now going to go and lie down in their beds and think that they were the whole ones who were responsible for the death of my son.

"And they are going to give up the rest of the people so that I (can) come out here again in a year's time and talk to you people again."

Meanwhile, Stephen's mother, Doreen, said it had been a "really difficult day" but added that she could now start moving on with her life.

She thanked the judge, accepting that he was unable to pass stiffer sentences on Dobson and Norris.

"The sentences that happened may be quite low, but at the same time the judge's hands were tied. And for that, as much as he can do, I am very grateful," Mrs Lawrence said outside court.

"It's the beginning of starting a new life because we've been in limbo for so long. So today we're going to start moving on, and it's time to take control of my life once more."

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majesticjkr
Always look on the bright side of life
06:54 PM on 01/08/2012
If anyone wants to find out who the other lads were, just ask the mothers of the covicted, all boys tell their mothers the truth, its about the only person a boy can talk to in confidence.
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majesticjkr
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06:50 PM on 01/08/2012
I wish they would stop putting pics of the killers up all the time, we know who they are now, every time I see them I just want to put a grenade in their mouth, pop their eyes out with a screwdriver, they need to be punished and I dont mean prison, they have lived the best days of their lives out of prison. now their in prison they should never leave it.
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04:07 PM on 01/05/2012
There are a lot of people leaving comments who either weren't there or around at the time.
Weren't old enough to remember the incident.
Have been brainwashed by intense media activity over the years
and now
know all there is to know.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
04:26 PM on 01/05/2012
How can you tell how old people are on here?
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07:19 AM on 01/06/2012
Hello Paul,
Quite easily by their strength of knowledge and use of words, and subject matter.
Factual memories are much more accurate than some history which is only told as it might have been.
Case- Immigrants were not brought here to do the jobs others wouldn't do..
It was entirely due to Empire,citizenship and politics.
They were mainly unskilled and could only carry out menial tasks without training.
All the jobs had been done, before they arrived, without any problems.
History has been skewed for convenience.
Sadly I only have a few minutes a day to waste on this I.T. soapbox and assume that you have far too much time on your hands. Note 'super user'
Do you remember the 40's?
No. I doubt it.
I believe that you are quite well educated and wasting it.
Happy new year.
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rabidrightwatch
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02:40 PM on 01/05/2012
The Police should and must keep this case open; more racist thugs out there were implicated, took part in this senseless and brutal crime, and the Police and the judiciary have the responsibility of seeking them out, gathering evidence and putting them before a court and jury.

The Judge is absolutely correct..

I haven't read all the comments (simply too many) but there appears to be a good percentage making excuses for the two convicted criminals as if they had been in court and heard all the evidence for themselves - and come to an 'unbiased' decision.

Only those in the court heard all the evidence, and they were convicted by the jury.

Far too many apologists for these thugs commenting - how can anyone in their right mind mitigate their collective, mindless action?

An a surprising number of people NOT calling for capital punishment yet again today.

Could it be that because there are two (or maybe five or six) white youths involved, somehow the 'hang 'em high' brigade thinks they don't qualify for their medieval methods of punishment?

It seems that way to me... double standards, or perhaps no standards at all..??
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03:31 PM on 01/05/2012
I agree. I think that anyone who is not consistent in their demands for capital punishment should be strung up and...

Oh, wait...
11:33 AM on 01/05/2012
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09:49 AM on 01/05/2012
The justice department's budget for 2011 was over 1,200 million, that's 3.3 million pounds per day. Are we getting value for money or are the legal professionals laughing all the way to the bank, hey, like bankers. These right honourable professionals refuse (Talk about job security,haha) to agree that a lie dectector test: Machine @ÂŁ5,000, a Technician @ ÂŁ40,000 PA would actually solve 90% of our crimes? The money saved could be used to build more prisons for the lying cowards like those convicted today!!Common sense is out there, but only if you look!
09:08 AM on 01/05/2012
For goodness sake, it's about time Stephen Lawrence was allowed to rest in peace and the media just backed off from this story. It's bad enough having a plaque in the pavement where he died and I would ask..what about all the other youths, both black and white who have died in similar circumstances. Are we to cover all our pavements with memorials to these deaths? Memorials that wont mean a thing to people in 50 years time. We have already seen the lack of respect for memorials to those killed in defence of this country so what chance Stephen Lawrence's memorial? This has all been hyped up by the media who are driven to produce a story that will sell papers etc. but it seems to me that if Stephen Lawrence had been white, the story of his death would have been dropped years ago and forgotten in the mists of time. Enough is enough, give us a break and move on......digging it all up wont bering Stephen Lawrence back to life. However, has anyone noticed that when ever any of these kids are killed, the media always says they were "a perfect student" or a "promising footballer" or one who had a "future as a computer programmer etc." Not one of them was a drug dealer or one with a criminal record.
09:20 AM on 01/05/2012
"However, has anyone noticed that when ever any of these kids are killed, the media always says they were "a perfect student" or a "promising footballer­" or one who had a "future as a computer programmer etc." Not one of them was a drug dealer or one with a criminal record."

What media do you use? In many reports of recent cases of knife murder in London it is mentioned that the victim was a member of a rival gang (or was believed to be). Hardly a character reference.

No one has ever suggested that Steven Lawrence was in a gang or involved in criminality. (Although it has been pointed out elsewhere here that for four days that was the underlying assumption of the police investigation.) If you have information to the contrary, you should share it with the police.
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03:08 PM on 01/05/2012
When the event took place it was mentioned in the press that there might be rumours of dealing connections.
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11:54 PM on 01/04/2012
This trial is a farce and a not guilty verdict given.Why because of police incompetence from the start
11:49 PM on 01/04/2012
A few thoughts. The murder of Keith Blakelock in 1985 has been mentioned; both that case and the Steven Lawrence one suggest that communities "closed ranks" and "protected their own". That in turn suggests that in some communities these are moral values above the law which "we all" think protects everyone equally. Obviously the white community in Eltham and the black one in Tottenham are very different in many ways, but the two cases seem to have this in common. And that is worrying.

The other suggestion is that a culture of intimidation exists/existed that prevented witnesses coming forward. Certainly there was a scandal when (during the McPherson enquiry) some bungler at the Home Office published the names and addresses of people who had given statements to the police in Eltham on the basis of anonymity.

But most disturbing are the rumours that the police investigation may not have been merely incompetent, or even slowed by racial prejudice, both of which the Met has taken up as issues to address. There are also the rumours that Norris's dad, a career criminal, had "contacts" in the Met and the investigation may have been hobbled from within. That needs to be cleared up in all our interests.
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jacksdad41
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11:11 PM on 01/04/2012
6th October 1985 - PC Keith Blakelock is stabbed 42 times and his head almost severed, to date his widow Liz and their 3 sons still await "justice" - no one is incarcerated for his murder although it is clearly known by police that up to 20 "witnesses" know the identity of the assailants. Any tears for Keith and his family??
11:29 PM on 01/04/2012
Why assume there are not? Surely you are not saying that the murder of Steven Lawrence in some way "balanced out" the murder of Keith Blakelock?
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jacksdad41
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12:22 AM on 01/05/2012
@bobwaugh - again, as the other poster replying to mine nowhere did I intimate anything about any murder being "balanced out" - the family of one will sleep a little easier tonight and so they should, the other family wont and they should too, although for one the heartache goes on. Dont read between my lines or tell me what I am thinking, I merely presented a comparison, draw your own. The reason for Keiths "cold case" file being closed forever is "omerta" and money.
11:39 PM on 01/04/2012
Of course there are. But I have three points to make concerning your post.

The first is that there is a clear and crucially important difference in the two cases, which is that the police did everything that they could to identify and convict someone for the murder of PC Blakelock, whereas (and the Met admit this) they certainly did NOT in the case of Stephen Lawrence. The function of the police is to uphold the law impartially, and to investigate criminality diligently and swiftly. That they signally failed to do in the Lawrence case. We the public, and the victims of crime have right to expect a great deal better from the police.

The second is that your post implies that somehow the injustice is that someone has been convicted for Stephen Lawrence's murder but not for PC Blakelock's. That is not the injustice at all. The injustice was and is that the police treated the two cases DIFFERENTLY.

The third point is that there was a crucial similarity in the two cases, which is that police actions led to a manifest wrongdoing in both events. Winston Silcott, a known criminal was, as they say "fitted up" for the crime. You say no one is incarcerated for PC Blakelock's murder - true. But Silcott WAS until his conviction was overturned. You say that you know that the police know that 20 witnesses know who actually did it. Maybe so. But those 20 do NOT say that Silcott did it.
04:07 AM on 01/05/2012
You need to speak to a copper from that era, you might change your mind about your post.
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Dmpolis
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10:28 PM on 01/04/2012
I tried to reply to a poster but it did not work??? I guess we have a little glich.
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10:22 PM on 01/04/2012
This single incident where racist thugs randomly murdered a young black youth at a bus stop has cost the country ÂŁbillions! The event and lack of original convictions led to the McPherson inquiry. (ÂŁM several) This led to a new definition on a racist incident. That definition has led to thousands of compensation claims. It has created a whole Race relations 'Industry' and ensured that statistical monitoring, all public institutions and private industry have been compelled to produce policies and risk assessments. The creation of wealth for the solicitors and the claimants. Millions of man hours have been used to produce impact assessments on every policy for every employer wether public or private. By taking a correct comparism to a criminal act and other cases, that have cost the country a fortune; the perpetrators of this murder- should have been sentenced to 1000 years imprisonment. I am convinced that the five people originally indicted are responsible. Only two have been convicted and that is a shame. Can the country afford to spend any more money on this? Can the decent people, and the authorities not bring about a swift conclusion to ensure the other guilty parties are bought to justice. I can't afford any more tax!
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11:42 PM on 01/04/2012
Quite so. Think how much money would have been saved if the police had simply done what they were supposed to do in the first place.
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11:50 PM on 01/04/2012
Maybe - but in reality the police were severely hampered by the closed community (Either through criminal intent or fear) that existed in the area at the time!
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10:19 PM on 01/04/2012
"Dobson, who is already serving a five-year sentence for drug-dealing, was sentenced to at least 15 years."
Quite frankly to let this guy go would be a shame. He seems like a career criminal.No rehabilitation for this one it is much to late and he would not want it anyway.
What is so awful is how for whattever reason these thugs thought they had a right to murder this kid. Be it race or gangs; it is gotten out of hand. No matter. Your life is in danger at every turn these days .Perhaps justice has been done and let this be a lesson to the others who think they got away with it.