Stephen Lawrence Murder: Gary Dobson And David Norris Sentenced To 15 And 14 Years

Gary Dobson David Norris

First Posted: 04/01/12 12:15 GMT Updated: 04/01/12 13:55 GMT

Gary Dobson and David Norris, the two men convicted of killing black teenager Stephen Lawrence, have been sentenced to a minimum of 15 years and two months and 14 years and three months respectively.

Both men were sentenced as juveniles by the judge at the Old Bailey in London on Wednesday as they were 17 and 16 when they committed the crime.

A man in the public gallery, reported to be Gary Dobson's father, shouted "shame on all of you" as the sentences were read out.

Following the sentencing Stephen Lawrence's father Neville called for the two men to give up information on the other people involved in his son's death.

"One of my greatest hopes is that these people have now realised that they have been found out, and they are now going to go and lie down in their beds and think that they were not the only ones who were responsible for the death of my son," he said.

Mother Doreen, who described the verdicts on Tuesday as "no cause for celebration" said she was "grateful" for the sentences despite them being "low".

"It's a beginning I think of starting a new life, we've been in limbo for so long," she said adding she would try and "take control" of her life again.

Justice Treacy said the murder was a "terrible and evil crime" and that it was committed for "no other reason that racial hatred".

"A totally innocent 18-year-old youth on the threshold of a promising life was brutally cut down in the street in front of eye witnesses by a racist, thuggish gang.

"You were both members of that gang. I have no doubt at all that you fully subscribed to its views and attitudes," he said.

Justice Treacy said the evidence did not prove that either defendant had a knife, but it was used with their knowledge or approval, Sky News reported from the court.

Dobson, 36, and Norris, 35, were found guilty at the Old Bailey in London on Tuesday, nearly 19 years after Lawrence was killed.

The 18-year-old was fatally stabbed by a gang of white youths in a racist attack at a bus stop in Eltham, south east London in 1993.

Scotland Yard Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe said police were still hunting the other people involved and warned they "should not rest easily in their beds".

Former Met deputy assistant commissioner and current Lib Dem London mayoral candidate Brian Paddick said "many lessons have been learnt" from the case but added there was" much more to be done before all Londoners have trust and confidence in the police".

Following Tuesday's verdicts the lawyer for Neville Lawrence said on his behalf: "I am full of joy and relief that today, finally, two of my son's killers have been convicted for his murder."

"I'm also conscious of the fact that there were five or six attackers that night. I do not think I'll be able to rest until they are all brought to justice."

The original investigation into the murder came under criticism by a public inquiry, which branded the Metropolitan Police institutionally racist.

More than a decade later, after successful convictions in cold cases including Damilola Taylor, a team of forensic scientists was called in to look again at the Stephen Lawrence evidence.

They discovered tiny amounts of blood, hair and fibres on clothing seized from Dobson and Norris' homes, which led to a successful prosecution.

The pair insisted on their innocence during the trial and as the verdicts were read out.

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Gary Dobson and David Norris, the two men convicted of killing black teenager Stephen Lawrence, have been sentenced to a minimum of 15 years and two months and 14 years and three months respectively. ...
Gary Dobson and David Norris, the two men convicted of killing black teenager Stephen Lawrence, have been sentenced to a minimum of 15 years and two months and 14 years and three months respectively. ...
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10:50 PM on 01/04/2012
Why oh why are some calling this a travesty of justice? The travesty was that these two were not convicted far far sooner. All the evidence was there, the forensics were there and the jury reached the conclusion that these two were guilty for their crimes. What saddens me is that some of the media bleating on about the verdict are themselves responsible for promoting race-hate tendencies in this country. The Daily Mail, Daily Express, Daily Star often carry headlines bleating on about immigration, Eastern Europeans, benefit cheats so is it any wonder that peoples minds act in the way they do towards the blacks, muslims, etc? Unfortunately some take these views to the extreme and that is why we end up with cases such as this. Questions need to be asked as to why some express such appalling views, the media should shoulder some responsibility in the way they behave and report on such topics.
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Latzy von Biron
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08:59 PM on 01/04/2012
Is it not common sense to sentence a juvenile as a juvenile? They should be sentenced for the crime they have committed as underage teenagers.
Au contraire, it is the US practice of sentencing children as adults a perversion of both justice and common sense.
08:33 PM on 01/04/2012
We have all heard about The Stephen Lawrence case, but how many have heard of The Kriss Donald case? media hype takes over once again and we are all sucked in, as long as a story sells papers it gets all the media coverage, but does it change anything? racism is here and I think education is a key to eradicate it but where would you start!
09:44 PM on 01/04/2012
The Kriss Donald case is notorious because the media failed to provide adequate coverage. That does not mean that the media are wrong in this instance for providing blanket coverage. In fact the Donald case shows the willingness of the authorities in recent years to deal with racially motivated crime evenhandedly and it is a pity that it was not more widely reported.

Donald, a 15 year old white boy, was abducted, tortured and murdered by five young men of Pakistani origin. Two were apprehended quite quickly and convicted of abduction and murder that was racially motivated. The other three fled to Pakistan with whom this country has no extradiction agreement. Despite this and with considerable efforts by diplomats and the police in Pakistan and Glasgow the three were eventually extradicted and were also convicted of racially aggravated murder and abduction.

For their offences the three were given life imprisonment with minimum terms to be served of 25, 23 and 22 years.

These prosecutions were the first for racially motivated in Scotland.
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07:49 PM on 01/04/2012
I can agree with these people being sent to prison but I have a question..*would the same amount of time and money have been spent if it had been a white kid killed by black people....
07:29 PM on 01/04/2012
I dont know about anyone else but im absolutely tired of hearing about stephen lawrence, its like every night on tv. for crying out loud hurry up and get it over with ...............
07:11 PM on 01/04/2012
I can see the point of having the principle of 'joint enterprise' but how did the court prove that the convicted would know that a murder was a likely outcome? Was it proven that they knew that at least one person had a weapon? Without the murder itself it is a case of a gang verbally insuting an intimidating someone in an 'outgroup'. Nasty and probably criminal. They were not much older than schooboys and they are always ganging up on each other. Usually the intension is to humilate and 'cow' someone and that is enough for their sick egos. As nasty as that is, even with racial insults, there is a big step from this to murdering someone.
09:24 PM on 01/04/2012
yes i agree with you totally
06:35 PM on 01/04/2012
My problem with this is! two specks of blood, no wittnesses to put them there, wittnesses to put them both somewhere else, Met plod and a media who so needed the verdict they got, an undercover video that had nothing to do with the the murder of Stephen apart from the fact they did not like Black people and Stephen was Black, at the time of the vid the rumour was that plod had tipped one of there dads of to the undercover plot, surely an appeal is well on the cards. Doubt is very bad for justice.
09:26 PM on 01/04/2012
here here
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06:29 PM on 01/04/2012
If only these types of crime were reported as when black on white commit this sort of crime, look at the muslim people who attacked the couple while screeching white hatred, she did not die but could easily have done and then instead of hearing virtually nothing we probably would have heard nothing about it at all, they walked free because they said they were muslim and not used to drinking alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All im saying is a fair report for equal people. It can all go too far the other way.
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07:04 PM on 01/04/2012
When did you hear about this one before today? Police make an effort to solve all crimes--that you have not heard what was done to solve that incident does not mean there is no effort. THis one took more than a decade.
Take your islamophobia else where.
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05:21 PM on 01/04/2012
This case is a travesty of justice in my opinion. The pair were used as political scapegoats, guilt by association. I think a well planned appeal will see them released within a couple of years whereupon they will be entitled to a huge compo. payout. Isnt 'guilty by association' illegal ??
05:54 PM on 01/04/2012
steve hope so
05:58 PM on 01/04/2012
Steveoxo, I fully agree with you. Well said.
05:07 PM on 01/04/2012
You get a longer sentence if you do armed bank robbery, what is it 30 - 40 years
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John Husted
06:13 PM on 01/04/2012
even if you do the armed robbery as a juvenile?
06:51 PM on 01/04/2012
ah good point, I think ? juvenile detention centre untill you old enough for adult prison
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Norman Mitchison
05:07 PM on 01/04/2012
22 pages on the Lawrence murder in the Mail to-day is overkill. Is nothing else of import going on in the World that might be of interest to readers apart from the imprisonment of the killers. Make no bones about it, a good result and a fair one but enough is enough.
05:02 PM on 01/04/2012
any murderer should be punished and if these lads did the crime then so be it, but why do so many who stab to death mug and rape get such light sentences, it should be the same rule for all not just for this high profile case
05:50 PM on 01/04/2012
Each case is sentenced on an individual basis.
A one rule fits all wouldnt work.
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lillian12130
06:23 PM on 01/04/2012
because Ken in this country we give an OBE for gang leaders
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04:48 PM on 01/04/2012
What has got me about this case is the way the media have acted since the verdict. Ever channel on tv and the pappers do not say the killers of Stephen Lawrence have been given ??? gaol, but it reads "Killers of BLACK YOUTH Stephen Lawrence have got ??? years in gaol. Why must he be discribed has BLACK???? if he had been white would it be reported the "Killers of White Youth sent to gaol. I feel this case still has it's rasist undertones even now. BAD,BAD PRESS COVERAGE.
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07:09 PM on 01/04/2012
Because his colour is what motivated the gang to attack him. In some countries it is called aggravate assault, in others a hate crime. If a black gang went out and attacked a lone white youth simply because he was white--it would be reported that way.
The media like to make noise--this is something that is easy to sensationalise.
But it sends a message that gangs who commit crimes out of hate will be prosecuted.
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Saint wright
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04:37 PM on 01/04/2012
bright young couple were carjacked after a Saturday night date and murdered in the most brutal way imaginable.Christopher Newsom, 23, was tied up and raped, shot in the back of the head and then dragged to a railway track and set on fire.His girlfriend, 21-year-old University of Tennessee student Channon Christian’s fate was even more horrific.
Her death came only after hours of torture, during which time she was raped and savaged with a broken chair leg.

She was beaten in the head and a household bleach was poured down her throat and over her bleeding and battered genital area in an attempt by her attackers to cover any evidence of rape – all while she was still alive.
Torture: Channon Christian was forced to watch the attackers rape and kill her boyfriend Christopher Newsom before she was murderedThen she was ‘hog-tied’ with curtains and a strip of bedding and a plastic bag was wrapped over her face.Her body was stashed inside five bigger rubbish liners and dumped in a bin, where, according to the autopsy report, she slowly suffocated to death

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220695/Is-political-correctness-blame-lack-coverage-horrific-black-white-killings-Americas-Deep-South-Tennessee-Channon-Christian-Christopher-Newsom-carjack.html#ixzz1iVZPDXRK
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07:15 PM on 01/04/2012
The details are highly sensationalised and exaggerated. They were murdered, which is true, but the torture allegations are not. One person received the death penalty, others long prison sentences. Here is the analysis from Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp
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Saint wright
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08:03 PM on 01/04/2012
WELL I JUST READ THE ANALYSIS recommend everbody else does too but you wont sleep, in what cutting way off his penis and cutiing off her breast and gang rapping her for 4 days not Torture in the USA?
11:44 PM on 02/01/2012
I am from Knoxville Tn. I will tell you that these two young people were brutally raped, tortured and murdered. Don't take away any of the horrific details and cast them aside like it wasnt a big deal. They were treated like garbage. By four people who didnt even deserve to know they existed. They were animals. Read the court transcriptions and tell me if they weren't tortured. They may not have cut off her breast but they did orally penetrate her so hard her lips came away from her gums, and the beat and raped her so brutally that she had contusions and blood pooling around her pubic area. What's torture to you?
04:36 PM on 01/04/2012
We can complain all we want about the sentencing it is the law and the law is the same for everybody.....it`s not because a trial is high profile that we should change the law....