Scottish Independence: Alex Salmond Takes On David Cameron

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The Huffington Post UK   Dina Rickman First Posted: 10/01/12 14:19 GMT Updated: 10/01/12 20:06 GMT

It was the coalition’s quietest u-turn yet. On Sunday, Westminster were going to impose a deadline of 18 months on the referendum on Scottish independence.

Scarcely 24 hours later, government sources indicated that a statement by Scottish secretary Michael Moore on Tuesday afternoon would merely indicate the governent’s desire for any ballot to be held “sooner, rather than later.”

The retreat came after David Cameron was forced to insist he wasn’t trying to “dictate” the terms of any vote for Scotland, in the face of mounting criticism from the SNP.

So, did the prime minister choose the wrong man to take on in Alex Salmond? The SNP leader isn’t a well-known face across Britain, but within Scotland he’s thought of as a man who could take on the Conservative prime minister.

“Alex Salmond’s a bruiser, the kind that has never been unleashed on the British public,” a former SNP aide told Huff Post UK.

“Alex can take Cameron on any day, Alex and Dave can provide the show we’ve always wanted from Ed Miliband and Dave.”

Salmond is certainly a strong character. His party’s sweeping victory in 2011’s Scottish elections, using an electoral system designed for no party to deliver a clear majority, has been described as both “stupendous” - and dangerous for the stability of the United Kingdom.

But when the SNP came to power, they indicated they would prefer to hold a referendum in the second-half of their term, widely assumed to be in 2014on the 700th anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn, seen as the critical fight in the first Scottish war of independence.

This time around, however, independence for Scotland might be one battle that even Salmond can’t win.

The UK government have certainly been talking tough. On Tuesday morning chief secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander told the BBC “jobs, investment, and growth in Scotland are much more important than waiting for the anniversary of a medieval battle.”

But according to John Curtice, professor of politics at Strathclyde University, dictating an in-or-out referendum to Holyrood, however, instead of Salmond’s preferred option of in, out or ‘devo-max’, amounts to politicians playing “high risk poker.”

“There is no doubt that the unionist camp - not just Cameron, Clegg as well - are certainly wanting to call a game of high risk poker,” he told Huff Post UK,

“The risks they are taking are two part. Firstly Westminster independence is potentially toxic, the second is that the answer to the question will be 'maybe' - in other words people may be prepared to keep the union so long as they end up with the Scottish parliament with more powers. But if they only get the choice of in or out, they might just vote for independence.”

Curtice also questioned about the strength of the unionist campaign: “The short answer it does not exist. The unionist camp need to sort out what their vision of Scotland within the union.”

While Scottish Labour MP Douglas Alexander accuses Salmond of “running scared” from a referendum, the truth is that the SNP leader is being pragmatic.

Mark Diffley, research director of IPSOS MORI Scotland told Huff Post UK their latest poll data shows Scots are split over when they want the poll. “It's a murky area and there is one almighty row brewing."

Unequivocal in the polls, however, is that the majority of Scots do not support independence.

“Right now the Scottish public isn’t ready for a referendum. The SNP’s internal polls have been saying that for years but it’s all about making the case for a referendum. It’s similar to the no to AV referendum, the year before they were 30 points behind,” the former SNP aide said.

One point remains clear, in the absence of a date for a referendum; do not underestimate Salmond. The 57-year-old politician is fearless - and he’s been laying the long-game.

As an economist in the Scotland Office in the 1970s, Salmond would have known plans were being drawn up to give devolution to Scotland - something Whitehall scrapped when Thatcher came into the government.

His years as an MP, where he had a video games console installed in his office in porticullus house, means he knows the ways of Westminster - and he was not shy in warning David Cameron to back off on Tuesday.

Salmond called Cameron’s attempts to force the SNP to take a legally binding referendum, with strings attached, "cack-handed". And as the UK government prepared to unveil a statement on the future of Scotland on Tuesday afternoon he said Holyrood was putting the "final touches" on a consultation document for referendum.

With Labour leader Ed Miliband today coming out in support of the union, and David Cameron’s stance on Salmond one thing’s for certain; this is a fight that has only just begun.

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It was the coalition’s quietest u-turn yet. On Sunday, Westminster were going to impose a deadline of 18 months on the referendum on Scottish independence. Scarcely 24 hours later, government so...
It was the coalition’s quietest u-turn yet. On Sunday, Westminster were going to impose a deadline of 18 months on the referendum on Scottish independence. Scarcely 24 hours later, government so...
 
 
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12:26 PM on 01/11/2012
That old adage of, you don't do as I do, you do as I say, is rampant right now with these two politicians, However, they are both forgetting the democratic process which still exists in Britain, which is being and has been ignored many times over the decades. This is because the puppets in Wetminster, are forever being dictated to by the EU junta, they do not speak on behalf of the majority of people in Britain. And neither do the junta dictate to the people of Britain. The modern day politicians walk around like the third world despots do, telling people what is good for them, like it or not...The EU alliance and it's junta are guilty of breaking up the Union of Britain, sponsored by their puppets in Wetminster...
04:39 PM on 01/10/2012
As stated the majority of people in the south have heard little of this man, my online monicker and stance on all parties in the south leave little to the imagination, I actually deem our political representatives guilty of treason on behalf of the Brits. Having lived in North east Scotland up to 2005 I followed Mr Salmonds rise, he fights one hell of a fight, we have no politician who rates a similar scale, IMO his attributes are honesty and integrity and a duty to the common man, all sadly lacking south of the border. I reckon the canny Scots will vote in his direction for several years to come and under his leadership will thrive both economically and industrially and gain the independence desired by the majority. We in the south will fail across the board, we have no leaders worth a toss, Dave would get no quarter at AS's hands, because I have no doubts as to the mans capabilities in this dept, Camoron knew he was beat before it went any further so u-turn, typical gutless reaction from another gutless southern politician.
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02:45 PM on 01/10/2012
I think Cameron should offer to hold a referendum in England on whether we want to stay in the Union. Why should they allow only one side the people in this arguement to have a vote on it? They want to leave, let them but they can't keep saying Scottish Independence is a matter only for Scotland when what they're talking about is dissolving a Union between only two countries! Both sides deserve an equal say in this matter, no matter how unfair Salmond might think it is!
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08:20 PM on 01/10/2012
If Dave saw any advantage in England leaving the union, he'd call one.
The UN and international laws on the rights of nations to self-determination guarantee the Scottish people the sole right to decide on their own constitutional future. The union is the result of an international tresty between Scotland and England. Either nation can decide unilaterally to withdraw from such an agreement. The other side has zero right to prevent that, thus, Scots will vote on this matter, and only Scots, no matter how unfair anyone outside of Scotland may think it is. It's the law. End of story really.
09:03 PM on 01/10/2012
So you'd be happy for a future referendum on whether England stays in the EU to be extended to France, Germany, Poland, Spain and the remaining members?

No both sides do not deserve an equal say - a divorce only requires one party to walk away and in the case of the act of Union Scotland has a right granted by that treaty to walk away...

It's a sad thing that some people in England simply don't understand the drive for independence - they see it as an attack on them or hatred of the English in general. The truth is that this is about US and OUR future and how we can make it better. If we wish to be free of anything it is not of England or the English - but free from Westminster. Free from illegal wars, misspent wealth, lying self serving politics and the absolute damning lack of democracy that plagues the UK. It is a sick corrupt exploitative and twisted form of government - in the 21st century we can do better than this lot.

We've simply had enough.
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01:46 PM on 01/11/2012
Absoulutely fine by me that you've had enough, I've been saying that Scotland should be independent for a long time now. Not because I don't like the Scottish, or Scotland but simply because this issue has become a millstone around the neck of English politics. What use is a partner who spends all their time complaining about the relationship, and keeps saying that they want to leave? The main reason I want to see a vote in England on this is because I believe the outcome would be independence from Scotland, meaning I would never have to put up with a Labour govn. in my country again.