Subletting Your Council House Could Lead To Prison Under New Government Plans

Subletting Council House Prison Shapps

First Posted: 11/01/12 06:44 GMT Updated: 11/01/12 06:44 GMT   PA

Council tenants who rake in thousands of pounds a year by subletting their homes face up to two years in prison, it was revealed today.

Courts would also be able to fine offenders up to £50,000, under detailed proposals unveiled by the Government.
Abuse of social housing is estimated to cost the taxpayer more than £5 billion a year.

However, it is not currently an offence to sublet a council house. Officials believe up to 160,000 tenants are renting properties to other people.

Housing Minister Grant Shapps said: "Tenancy cheats are taking advantage of a vital support system for some of the most vulnerable people in our society and getting away with a slap on the wrist while our waiting lists continue to grow.
"It's time for these swindlers to pay the price.

"It would cost us billions of pounds to replace the huge number of unlawfully occupied social homes across the country.
"Meanwhile tenancy cheats can earn thousands of pounds letting out their property, which was given to them in good faith and which could instead be offering a stable home to a family in need.

"The proposals I've announced today would not only deliver justice to these fraudsters, but will also act as a deterrent to those who think they can earn a fast buck from this precious resource.

"I want everyone to know that our country's social homes are going to those in genuine need, not providing a 'nice little earner' to someone who could afford to live elsewhere."

The plans, being put out for consultation, would see the creation of a new criminal offence of tenancy fraud, with a maximum sentence of two years' imprisonment and a fine of up to £50,000 if the case goes to crown court.

The money seized would be handed back to the social landlord in whose stock the fraud was committed, rather than going into government coffers.

Local authorities would also get stronger powers to investigate fraud, including easier access to data from banks and utility companies.

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Council tenants who rake in thousands of pounds a year by subletting their homes face up to two years in prison, it was revealed today. Courts would also be able to fine offenders up to £50,000, u...
Council tenants who rake in thousands of pounds a year by subletting their homes face up to two years in prison, it was revealed today. Courts would also be able to fine offenders up to £50,000, u...
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12:34 AM on 01/15/2012
NOT UNTILL YOU INTRODUCE A NEW LAW MAKING IT ILLEGAL!!!! can you carry out this "full of hot air" threat, ----but saying that I personally do not agree with sub letting--
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10:54 AM on 01/12/2012
I wonder if MP's can sub-let their first or second homes while claiming housing expenses?
01:30 AM on 01/15/2012
whether they can or not is NOT the question is "DO THEY" & if so what happens to them if caught ?? I suppose the same as all fraudulant expenses claims, " SWEET FCUK ALL"
06:32 PM on 01/11/2012
What is apparent to me, is that the scum of society make an absolute mint in devious ways and the pillars of society, the judges, MP's, bankers etc all operate on the same principals as the scum. I'm proud of my efforts as 'middle class' knowing that I help and support these characters.
06:15 PM on 01/11/2012
This is all mad. It is and should remain a matter of civil law, not criminal law.
07:08 PM on 01/11/2012
but civil law takes too long.
09:35 PM on 01/11/2012
I disagree.
Southern law girl
Researching my viewpoint....
08:10 PM on 01/11/2012
On completing forms for social housing you have to make a statement that you will not sublet. To go against the rules of social housing, ie renting it out at a profit, that is basically fraud. Fraud is a criminal offence, hence it has to be dealt with under the heading of criminal law.
09:38 PM on 01/11/2012
No, it's not a fraud. It's a contractual breach of your tenancy. It would be fraud if you did not declare the income for tax purposes of course, but that's another matter.

If this were a matter of fraud, Cameron would not have to propose new legislation to cover it, since the existing laws of the UK cover fraud adequately. The fact that he has to consider new legislation is the clearest possible proof that at the minute, the act of subletting is not a criminal offence.
06:09 PM on 01/11/2012
Should this also apply to the thousands who came here, got through the system, were given social housing yet still own and rent out properties in countries (and others) they came from?
05:55 PM on 01/11/2012
Trouble is whilst teh sub letters go to prison the family they have sub let to will be homeless and so the Council will have to re house them if they have kids. Sometimes two families will be overcrowding a sub let house so that will be two families made homeless and the Council only getsone house back which will go to someone who has been homeless longer. This won'r help the waiting lists and will cost us more for B&B provison and prison costs. I don't knowwhat the solution is but for a start they should pay teh state back all the rent they have charged in the past.
05:38 PM on 01/11/2012
I will believe it when the first one gets done. Still waiting to see if the car driving MP is sent to trial .
01:37 AM on 01/15/2012
IF you are a man! & i do NOT mean that sarcasticaly, as i do not know you,But IF you are I hope you have PLENTY of razors to shave with as by the time that one is dealt with you will have one nice BIG BEARD!!! (reply to catfordbert)
05:21 PM on 01/11/2012
The conservatives are correct in this , they would be helping working class people to have housing , though it should go to those that are working , all the benefit claiments should go to a workhouse until they find paid work to then move up into social housing , see how quick they'll get to work .
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rabidrightwatch
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09:32 AM on 01/12/2012
...so it's back to the workhouse with the 'undeserving poor'... nice to see that someone is highlighting in writing Victorian, or should I say Conservative, values...

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is pleased your not in a position to inflict your neo-conservative views on others.
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10:57 AM on 01/12/2012
You're not the only one.
05:19 PM on 01/11/2012
Time we got tough on the SCAMMERS and made them all do hard Labour on our Farms no need for cheep Labour from the EU!!
01:54 AM on 01/15/2012
sorry mate "IT will never happen whilst the pratts in "FUMMING RIGHTS" control our society,but never the less IF WHEN CAUGHT the sentance COULD be "they are made to pay back their illicit gains by this form of sentance" & depending on their financial situation also made to repay in cash !!
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05:15 PM on 01/11/2012
To think the Government could get the money in themselves if they had enough housing to rent out in the first place, but of course they sold all those for a quick buck, now they're complaining !!
Most of the Council houses I visit that are " overcrowded" with people are occupied by Poles, and we wonder how they can afford to come here and send money back home........as well as the child benefit etc, that they can send back home, being members of this wonderful E.U. !!
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normdoug
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05:08 PM on 01/11/2012
Sub-letting your council house, go to prison. Three meals a day, free TV plus Sky. All the exercise gear you can think of, free, or you can stay in bed. Paid for tax payer. Give them a house to make money, or put them in prison for a good holiday. The rate payer cannot win.
04:53 PM on 01/11/2012
Is there room in prison for the 160000 cheats it will clogg up the court system for years
05:22 PM on 01/11/2012
I said this in my post at the beginning of this thread until they wiped it off. Can't help being a Realist.
02:00 AM on 01/15/2012
DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR USER NAME ????? would not supprise me,as it seems to be IF you make it known your BRITISH / ENGLISH you are penalised from top to bottom in this country that just LOVES IMMIGRANTS!!! over the indiginous people
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krenzny
WTF?? Get up, stand up!
04:19 PM on 01/11/2012
Question: As an American, What is the significance of a "council house" Is is a sort of subsidized housing?
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rabidrightwatch
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04:41 PM on 01/11/2012
In the US, I believe it's called social housing (projects in Chicago, Baltimore etc come to mind..)..

Built by the local council and rented at reasonable rent to families, single-parents, disabled people etc and allocated purely on the basis of need...
A hangover from the days when the UK had a properly funded and accountable social housing policy, which the present neo-con inspired Government is actively seeking to dismantle..

Like the sub-title... - from another Bob Marley fan
05:24 PM on 01/11/2012
Love your post buddy! Hit it right on the Nail. Could you be swinging a little to the Right????
04:13 PM on 01/11/2012
This is what happens when you let a small country like Britain get overcrowded.
05:25 PM on 01/11/2012
A BIG 10/4 on that!!!
02:56 AM on 01/15/2012
OVER CROWDED!!! many more & this bloody little island of ours will SINK!!! never to be seen again,just like ATLANTIS !!