Sir Fred Goodwin, Ex-RBS Boss, Could Be Stripped Of His Knighthood This Week

Sir Fred Goodwin

Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 25/01/2012 12:41 Updated: 25/01/2012 12:45

Former RBS boss Sir Fred Goodwin could discover whether he gets to keep his knighthood within days, David Cameron has revealed.

Speaking during Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday, Cameron said the The Honours Forfeiture Committee will meet this week to discuss whether Sir Fred should hold on to his title, which he received in 2004 for services to banking.

"It will be considering all of the evidence including, as I have said before, the Financial Services Authority report into RBS and what went wrong and who was responsible," he told MPs.

The prime minister has said he is "sympathetic" to the calls for him to lose his title, as has deputy prime minister Nick Clegg.

Labour leader Ed Miliband has acknowledged that it was "clearly wrong" for the banker to have received a knighthood under the previous Labour government.

Calls for Sir Fred to be stripped of his title have been led by Tory MP Matt Hancock, a close ally of George Osborne, who tabled a Commons motion calling the knighthood "perverse and unacceptable" as he was "largely responsible" for the biggest failure in banking history.

Sir Fred Goodwin's period in charge of RBS ended in disaster when the bank had to bailed out by the taxpayer following the financial crisis of 2008.

According to officials the Honours Forfeiture Committee would normally only consider cases only where an individual has been jailed for more than three months or has been struck off or censured by a professional body for failings relevant to the granting of the honour.

Royal Bank of Scotland is also coming under pressure from the government to halve the bonus awarded to current chief executive, Stephen Hester.

The Treasury is expected to tell bosses at the majority taxpayer-owned bank that Hester should receive no more than £1 million this year.

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09:25 AM on 01/29/2012
Will someone take a look at Conrad Black, Baron Black of Crossharbour, OC, KCSG, PC and member of the House of Lords.

He is a Canadian born press baron (sic) who resigned his Canadian citizenship in order to receive a British life peerage.

Although on the advice of Tony Blair he got conferred his honours for owning the Daily Telegraph, he subsequently sold the paper; currently he is serving jail time in the US for fraud against his publicly held companies and for obstruction of justice.

It is expected that he will be declared inadmissible in the US upon completion of his jail sentence; Canada has a similar exclusion policy for non citizens with a police record, it is not clear whether he can legally cross the border back into Canada.
06:29 AM on 01/26/2012
Poor Fred going to loose a knighthood, there are people loosing their bloody lives for us. A tap on the shoulder with a sword and lackeys calling you sir, is really quite trivial compared. I'd rather take back his pension and bonuses, i'm sure that would concern him more.
05:08 PM on 01/25/2012
Ive seen a court case from canada where a man proved to the courts that our queen has broken her Oath of office and won his case flat out as the court had no power to act...so really all these sirs and lords have no standing since the day she broke it.
Ps studied law since i was 12 years old am now 40 so if ya thinks i'm bullin you go get struck by lightening or somthing....lol
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rabidrightwatch
Green lefty & active environmentalist
05:43 PM on 01/25/2012
...well, your studying law since you were 12 hasn't done much for your spelling and grammar, which doesn't bode well for your future clients, I'm afraid...
majdf18148
I have nothing to declare but my curiosity
06:45 PM on 01/25/2012
Perhaps he's one of those ECHR lawyers or judges, he's got about the same level of intellectual wherewithall, seems he can't even spell his user name right. Lol.
04:54 PM on 01/25/2012
Let us hope he is the first of many. Let the witch hunt begin.
04:51 PM on 01/25/2012
Fine if you feel better. But does he care?
04:48 PM on 01/25/2012
What about convicts Jeffrey Archer and Lord Taylor. Put them on the list for loss of peerages.
03:05 AM on 01/26/2012
Might I add Conrad Black
04:46 PM on 01/25/2012
There are quite a few others who should be stripped of honours - like the convicts Jeffrey Archer and Lord Taylor
03:56 PM on 01/25/2012
The very last reason for losing anhonour should be "because a bunch of politicians think it might play well with the public"
03:55 PM on 01/25/2012
OK, now we've all had a good old rant, canwe now ask the question in the most general terms:

For what reasons should someone forfeit an honour granted by the state?

I suggest that there should be only one reason: being found guilty of a criminal offence that could incur a jail term.
majdf18148
I have nothing to declare but my curiosity
03:39 PM on 01/25/2012
It is a vexed issue. He is a despicable man who cost the country and countless individuals immeasurable financial difficulties through greed and flagrant negligence yet retired with more money than 99% of the nation could ever hope to aspire to in their lifetime. But, as has been pointed out in other posts, he stands free of criminal charges or conviction, unlike other nobles who have been convicted of criminal offences and retained their titles. It is really difficult not to confuse emotion with fact when something of this magnitude, that affected so many people, is being debated. My heart tells me he should be stripped of his pension, his lump sum AND his knighthood. My brain tells me he was entitled under contract law to his money and it would be inequitable to remove his title based on past custom and practice. Now, if someone can come up with a legally sustainable reason for stripping him of any of these vestiges of reward for his financial negligence I would love to hear them but I fear, like many other of his ilk, he is pretty damn near untouchable and will escape with his bits intact!
03:31 PM on 01/25/2012
....one down, so what about the politicians?
03:18 PM on 01/25/2012
This horrible guy and his buddies lost me my permanent job in 2005 and many others too, loosing his knighthood should be the minimum punishment.
03:06 PM on 01/25/2012
And pay back his ill gotten bonuses and his pensions.
02:42 PM on 01/25/2012
Why has his personal assets not been seized to recover some of the loses. Surprised he's managed to be allowed to get away with it.

Also, I see that RBS are still sponsors for Scottish Rugby, so the tax payer is forking out for that too.
02:05 PM on 01/25/2012
lose his knighthood... could I suggest losing his head might be a more fitting punishment