David Miliband, Former Foreign Secretary, Warns On 1930s Divisions

David Miliband

First Posted: 26/01/2012 17:55 Updated: 26/01/2012 17:55   PA

The international community is facing the same divisions today as in the 1930s over its responsibility to intervene to protect human rights, former foreign secretary David Miliband has warned.

At a fundraising dinner for the Anne Frank Trust, Miliband said the world had still not answered the question he said was posed by her diaries: "Whose responsibility is it to fight cruelty?"

He said: "The questions that dogged the 1930s about the responsibilities of states and the treatment of their own citizens, about the rights of other states to assert universal values and protect people from danger, those questions are as fraught today as they were in the 1930s.

"It's true that out of the horrors of the Holocaust came a new international settlement, embodied in the UN Convention on Human Rights.

"But today we can see that declaring rights is one thing. Enforcing them is a very different project.

"That's where the international community is pretty much split down the middle. There is no agreement and shared doctrine for the governance of our interdependent world.

"For every assertion of universal rights there is a counter assertion of national sovereignty. For every condemnation of governments which abuse power there is the loud cry 'It's none of your business''.

"That is the tragedy being played out in Syria and elsewhere today."

Miliband told the event, held at the Park Lane Hilton and marking Holocaust Memorial Day tomorrow, it was necessary to debate how "we can defend the rights of people whose aims we don't know, whose story we can only imagine, but in time might become as famous as Anne Frank.

"I honestly believe this is the next frontier in international law and international relations."

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mokgee
Sabu.Satsang, Samsara, Solitude...
12:23 PM on 01/27/2012
Yes Multibland 2, you are absolutely right, therefore, begin wih the people of Britain. When that mission is accomplished, we can begin the charitable mission for others who truly need it. Not for those who can, as all the losers in Wetminster choose........
10:22 AM on 01/27/2012
And what about the rights of the people of this country Mr Miliband when we are forced to house the likes of known Islamic terrorists such as Abu Qatada. And you want to defend the rights of people whose aims we don't know! Human rights yes, inhuman rights no! And that's why we should withdraw from the EU which includes the ECHR.
10:05 AM on 01/27/2012
Typical politician,a question within a question,which has no answer.More hot air to create attention in his own direction.Totally out of touch.
The question should have been.....Are our human rights & laws within OUR land being meddled with by the dictatorial beauracracy being imposed upon OUR COUNTRY from within The European Union.
09:44 AM on 01/27/2012
More rubish, no matter how we try to solve our problems the government will create more. Look at the last War, a war to stop wars, but what happened, the government then brought in a lot of immigrants to start another war,on top of that they then gave what we fought to stop to the people we fought, we are now ruled by them,we should have given the country to them in the first place and saved a lot of lives.
09:38 AM on 01/27/2012
Does anybody really know what their full Human Rights are?
09:36 AM on 01/27/2012
it's pretty obvious if a country has something the west wants then it's our responsibility if not then they are left to do what they want look at what happened in rwanda and what goes on in palestine and other countries that are of no importance to the west
Kraptonfactor
They're coming to take me away ha ha, hee hee, ho
01:21 PM on 01/27/2012
That's because they have no oil.
08:38 AM on 01/27/2012
This whole Human Rights thing is just one massive conspiracy between bleeding heart liberals and lawyers who want to make a fast buck out of the UK taxpayer.
07:21 AM on 01/27/2012
Whilst we appreciate what he is saying. We have to make sure that we do not take criminals or people who are just coming here to exploit our benefit system.which is really the real problem of today that needs to be addressed!
03:15 AM on 01/27/2012
I love David M he's such a card. He forgets so quickly labours stinking record on human rights. Even with the human rights act in full force he was part of the government that brought in anti terror laws that seriously degraded the long held freedoms that have always enjoyed in this country. Anyone remember the ID cards farce? Rendition? illegal wars? fingerprinting children who wanted library books? Massive expansion of CCTV? Biometric passports? banning protests within 1 kilometre of parliament "without permission"?
03:05 AM on 01/27/2012
this human rights thing, is really a farce when the west mingle in other countries, you get something like whats happening in Iraq,Afganistan Egypt, Libya, right now we didn"t want the dictators they had so we helped overthrow them only to be replaced b y more dictators sadly for them to get into power, they had to work together to please us the americans and the UN, as soon as they ousted the dictator they didn"t want, four or five more dictators from differant sects with differant agendas came out to show there true colours. hence more killing more bombs more churches and mosques attack and burnt down. Somewhere along the line someone must say you know what they don"t want democracy they just want weapons from us and our help and aid
to help them to become the new dictators. Perhaps that is what we really want. And who rally benefits from human rights laws the very scum who have bombed murdered and maimed in there only country and run here to use these laws, to stop them going back. Somewhere e way we deserve our human rights to.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
09:46 AM on 01/27/2012
I think you've put your finger on it there. Certain cultures do not understand the idea of democracy. (I'm not 100% certain our political masters do) As you say they want the weapons so that they can get into the driving seat. Trying to push democracy on someone who does'nt understand it would be difficult enough, without peddling the revised version of it that we are constantly told is good for us.
11:16 PM on 01/26/2012
ajusticiar-----like all other laws that need adjustment to accomodate the times we live in,the human rights law is well overdue an overhaul.
11:28 PM on 01/26/2012
I do not disagree. Laws need to be kept up to date but any review of human rights should be measured. I have to say that having read David Cameron's recent speech at the Council of Europe I was surprised to find myself in agreement with his approach; it sounded as though Ken Clark had written it for him. I now welcome David Miliband's contribution to the debate.
11:09 PM on 01/26/2012
Human rights in this country has had a bad impact on, who can stay,the ones that can stay and get plenty of money in benefits ,are the ones who want to kill us but cant be extradited because it infringes their human rights,but the poor ghurkas who fought with us have to leave what about their rights,and every other persons rights that these parasite immigrants hate.
10:21 PM on 01/26/2012
"Whose responsibility is it to fight cruelty?" The law of the land, not human rights legislation.
11:04 PM on 01/26/2012
I do not understand - human rights legislation is the law of the land. The European Convention on Human Rights was signed by Winston Churchill in 1953 having been ratified by the UK Parliament. That is why it is the law of the land.
11:13 PM on 01/26/2012
Quite right, and we should be thinking seriously about whether we need it to stay in the law of our land.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
09:38 AM on 01/27/2012
Yes, but it was not signed so that every potential terrorist, and just plain criminal can use it against the law of the land. There are times when common sense should prevail,and if it does not,then serious consideration must be givn to changing things for the protection of society.
09:57 PM on 01/26/2012
this p==k and all the others like amnasty international who embrace human rights never ever mention those murderers and criminals and terrorists who abuse the human rights laws, do gooders and vote catchers is what they are.
11:09 PM on 01/26/2012
A load of unsubstantiated tosh.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
09:35 AM on 01/27/2012
Correct: Most of it sounds like meaningless drivel, by someone needing to find some publicity.
09:45 PM on 01/26/2012
The biggest threat this country had and still has was when labour opened the flood gates and let the immigrants in which is still happening today under the coalition using up all are needed resources. These people in power do more damage to people lives and blame everyone else except themselves. These people are 100% cut off from the real world .
11:21 PM on 01/26/2012
I've never understood this terror of immigrants.
Kraptonfactor
They're coming to take me away ha ha, hee hee, ho
01:50 PM on 01/27/2012
Then you must live an extremely sheltered life.
Kraptonfactor
They're coming to take me away ha ha, hee hee, ho
02:33 PM on 01/27/2012
Totally agree with you alanfinddlay1, the level of immigration is total madness on a small island like Britian, we don't have the infrastructure in place to absorb the quantity of immigrants who have chosen to come here. You can't blame the immigrants, anyone who sees an opportunity in life to better it will do so. It is the fault of successive governments who have made it so attractive to them who are to blame. We offer them more than any other country so they will continue to flock here to take advantage of it. No other country in the EU offers the benefits we do in the UK.
The people who claim that it's a good thing do not live in areas where immigrants have taken all the affordable rental housing and the jobs, where the locals have been put to the bottom of the social housing list because the immigrants have come with children, have had to wait longer for NHS appointments and operations, have had to place their children in schools outside their area because of a shortage of places and those that have places, had to be educated with a lot of children for whom English is not their first language and who have a completely different set of cultural values. It's time to close the borders and look after our own.