Nadine Dorries: 'I Have Never Met Nigel Farage'

The Huffington Post UK  |  By Posted: 24/04/2012 13:47 Updated: 24/04/2012 13:53

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Nadine Dorries has denied planning to defect to UKIP

Nadine Dorries, the Conservative backbencher who recently attacked David Cameron and George Osborne as "arrogant posh boys", has sought to play down suggestions that she might defect to the UK Independence Party.

"I can absolutely tell you 100% i have never met or spoken to [UKIP leader] Nigel Farage in my life" she said.

Dorries has caused controversy recently for attacking the coalition. She said the prime minister and chancellor had "no passion to want to understand the lives of others".

There have recently been predictions that some Tory MPs were going to leave the party.

Speaking to the BBC this morning, she said that her words were "felt and thought by a number of backbenchers".

"There are a very elite clique who operate around Mr Cameron, who describes himself as a social liberal. I don't think there's a Conservative councillor in the land who describes themselves as a social liberal. We are Conservatives.

She added "It is a problem that he describes himself as a social liberal"

Dorries could lose her seat at the next election due to boundary changes, but she dismissed the idea that this has lead her to attack the prime minister.

"We don't know if I am losing my seat at this election," she said. "We don't even know if my seat is going to go. I have been a Conservative for a very long time."

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Nadine Dorries, the Conservative backbencher who recently attacked David Cameron and George Osborne as "arrogant posh boys", has sought to play down suggestions that she might defect to the UK Indepen...
Nadine Dorries, the Conservative backbencher who recently attacked David Cameron and George Osborne as "arrogant posh boys", has sought to play down suggestions that she might defect to the UK Indepen...
 
 
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00:27 on 25/04/2012
Quote - There have recently been predictions that some Tory MPs were going to leave the party.

Rats and ships, Rats and ships. Nuff said
17:32 on 24/04/2012
You are very lucky dear he is a complete prat.
01:03 on 25/04/2012
so you have actually met Nigel?
16:44 on 24/04/2012
I wanted to reply to the comment below.

It is sad to see the level or lack of knowledge and understanding regarding Europe.

"Opinion is the medium between, Ignorance and Knowledge"

Words such as isolationist are very interestingly used in the comment. An isolationist is specifically someone who does not want to converse or trade with anyone, but keep everything internal.

If you accept the current EU system you are actually befitting the isolationist tag. This is very simply because the EU desides which countries the UK trades with on its behalf. This actually limits the countries outside the EU it could otherwise of traded with.

The idea that moving out of the EU system would stop trade is a joke, the world is now Global. The UK needs to trade with China, India and Brazil and it needs to be able to have negotiations real time, not EU time.

Switzerland is a great example of a country not in the EU but trades with the world and the EU with its own rules.
19:54 on 24/04/2012
All well and good when there was little exotic competition, but, (always a but eh?) as our trade now runs at approximately 55 to 60% with the EU, and there is no longer an 'open market playing field' elsewhere, due to the playing field being full of competition from the far east, (and elsewhere) just how does one propose to gain back a market share outside of the EU, should we suddenly discover that, due to internal-ism, isolationism, our entry into Europe is restricted?

To regains market share outside of the EU we would, of necessity have to rebuild that share to replace that we lose in Europe,

This could take decades to achieve, and to put it bluntly we do not have the luxury of such a protracted timescale in which to build up a replacement, even if only for a relatively small drop in trade across the Channel.
Also our trade with the USA our second biggest trading partner, is only about 15%, and there competition could be rapidly diminished by aggressive tactics by our far eastern competitors.

No sir, I have to say it, we are far too deep into the EU, even if we don''t comply with the Euro, to even think of extricating ourselves from the EU.
22:27 on 24/04/2012
I will say it again but more slowly.

The EU gets more trade from the UK, than the UK gets from the EU.

The UK is number 1 largest trading partner of the EU, i repeat the 1st.

I will also repeat that Switzerland is not part of the EU but is able to fully trade with the EU the same as many other countries.

It is not an Either, Or scenario. The UK will continue to trade with the EU exactly the same way if it leaves or not.

But more importantly if the UK leaves the EU it will not have all the regulations and burden which make it impossible to compete in the world stage.

The UK can open up trade with Australia and New Zealand to start, and many more after this. It can decide the terms on which the trade is set, and it can be done in real time. No one size fits all.

This is how competition works.

Hong Kong is a perfect example of this.
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rabidrightwatch
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10:27 on 25/04/2012
...and well said yet again...
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rabidrightwatch
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10:18 on 25/04/2012
Then all I can say is that you have very little idea or experience of international business, the workings of the EU, and the many benefits that brings.

The EU doesn't decide with whom we trade - every member state is a separate entity and can trade with any nation, operating at all times within internationally-imposed sanctions and business standards.
All member states can and do negotiate individual deals daily.

The notion that we, outside the EU, can spontaneously trade more to compensate for lost EU business is simply naive. Exit would destroy jobs, not create more.

Switzerland is not a good example -in order to trade with EU, it must comply with EU standards - without having the slightest input into the compilation of those standards.
In fact, Switzerland and Norway are the most compliant nations to EU regulations, precisely to trade within the bloc, but prefer to be outside for their own reasons.

Norway has the world's greatest sovereign wealth fund, has bountiful supplies of gas/oil, so can play the isolationist game for longer.
Switzerland adopted dubious forms of banking decades ago, and is a gigantic tax haven; if it joined, all that would come under scrutiny - so it stays away.

The UK has none of the above.
But what do I know; I'm only an international businessman with 30 years' experience.
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10:42 on 25/04/2012
"But what do I know; I'm only an international businessman with 30 years' experience.”

But you already know the answer to that question from the way you have phrased it. You know nothing.

Did you know that Aristotle believed that women had 28 teeth as opposed to the 32 found in most men? Well, see, if you found a woman with more than the allotted number she was abnormal, only the sickest of sick minds would think of actually getting close enough to a woman to count her teeth and, if by some act of nonsense by God is wasn't true, then it ought to be. Now following that system of reasoning, I say that being a member of the EU is bad for UK trade. You may answer, but don't be boring because we all know you're wrong.
19:17 on 25/04/2012
Thank you for your reply. I will respond to each point.

"The EU doesn't decide with whom we trade" -

One of the main arguments that the three same parties make is that being part of the EU with 27 different countries enabled the EU to negotiate for the UK as a bigger player on the world scene.
I then do not understand how you are flipping this by saying the UK can do all of its own negotiations.
The UK has 7% vote within the EU, that is the same as no say at all. No legislation can be changed with such a percentage.

Switzerland and Norway do not have to comply with the Health and Safety Regulations or The Common Fisheries Policy.

Switzerland has a system called Direct Democracy it has a constitution which is almost a direct copy of the USA. The people have direct votes on the smallest of issue's, this is why they are not in the EU.

If every country within the EU had this voting system. Many more would not be part of it.

That is the biggest problem with the EU system. It is very undemocratic. Every country which even hints at leaving or voting on leaving is attacked. Even if the system was not bankrupt and failing, it can never go forward without the consent of the people.

History has shown this over and over and over once more. Beyond all the idea's of if it works or not.
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rabidrightwatch
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16:33 on 24/04/2012
Ms. Dorries is a pain in the side of the conservative party, which pleases me no end, but that's where the party ends for me... she is one of the new intake, ultra-right wing breed of conservative we could all do without...

She's lucky she's never met Nigel Farage, the insulter-in-chief at the EU, whose petulant outbursts and downright, serial rudeness towards fellow MEPs in general and the President of the Council in particular is notorious.

The problem with Mr. Farage is that these same outbursts unsettle & unstabilise business connections with our largest single marketplace and, by definition, undermines employment and industrial prospects countrywide.

Yes, he's the leader of a one-horse, single-issue isolationalist party, but he's also a loose cannon... many business colleagues of mine groan long and loudly every time he gets on his hind legs and roundly abuses all and sundry.. there goes another contract, there goes another hundred employees; not doing his country any favours, only interested in his political ambitions, by the sound of it..

Yes, Ms. Dorries is fortunate not to have met Nigel Farage - there are very many of us who wish we'd never experienced him either...
01:08 on 25/04/2012
''there are very many of us who wish we'd never experienced him either... ''

What did Nige do to you? Did he steal your wallet or something seeing as you disklike him so much, there must be a valid reason other than standing up against the gnomes of the European Parliament?
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rabidrightwatch
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10:25 on 25/04/2012
...he seems quite sanguine about jeopardising employment of thousands of people by his tirades and childish outbursts, insults and low mutterings..

...he's charismatic, eloquent and can crack a good joke, but that doesn't make him a responsible person, in whom to invest political power... but some appear to think so, and that's their choice of course, but as you may have detected, he's not mine..
11:32 on 30/04/2012
Yes, i think our Nigel can be seen as abrupt by many, BUT you cant deny he has been proved correct in everything he says....He was predicting Spains implosion and its happening.....