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Police Spy Case Shows Threat of Secret Courts

Posted: 23/01/2013 00:00

Last week, lawyers for the police were partly successful in pushing a case concerning what has been described as the "sexual and psychological abuse of campaigners for social justice... by undercover police officers" into a secret tribunal, from which little if any evidence of just how this was allowed to happen will emerge.

For now, that is not the end of the story - the judge ruled that although part of the case, brought by women who say they were deceived into having sex with undercover police officers, will be heard by the intensely secretive Investigatory Powers Tribunal (IPT), this will be followed by an open hearing in the High Court.

However, should the government's plans for a vast roll-out of secret courts across the civil justice system pass parliament, it will be a very different story in future. The women bringing these allegations - described by the judge as "very serious" - would likely find themselves faced with the choice of the secret tribunal on the one hand and a secret court on the other.

Neither would allow them to challenge the case presented by the authorities, or to even hear the evidence which is used against them; should they lose their claim - which becomes much more likely in a system where the odds are stacked in the government's favour - they would never know why; and of course, both press and public would be left in the dark about just what our law enforcement and security services had been getting up to in our name.

Ministers may claim that the plans for secret courts - known as Closed Material Procedures (CMPs) - currently before Parliament would apply to only a tiny number of cases, concerned with 'national security.' Yet this is a nebulous term which the government refuses to define and which is known to have been misused to cover up embarrassment in the past. It is all too easy to see how the activities and techniques of the police could be claimed to have a bearing on 'national security', and therefore require the doors of the courtroom to be shut.

Moreover, the Kafkaesque claims made by police lawyers in this week's case - that they could not have a fair trial unless the other side was excluded altogether - are eerily similar to the claims currently being advanced by Ken Clarke in support of the secret courts bill. It is worth emphasising just how dangerously wrong-headed such claims are: the state is in effect saying that it is unfair to the state if they are not handed a massive advantage over their opponent. This takes the form of being allowed to kick the other side out of a closed courtroom, meaning that while the state can challenge the evidence brought forward by the citizen, the citizen cannot challenge or even hear the evidence brought forward by the state.

The potential spread of the new rash of secret courts would - by Ken Clarke's own admission - not stop at cases involving the security services. Questioned in Parliament, Mr Clarke was forced to admit that secret courts could also be used in cases where soldiers' families brought cases against the MoD for negligence resulting in the death of a loved one; he also refused to rule out that they could be used in cases where the government faced embarrassment over corrupt arms deals.

This week's case has demonstrated that the desire for secret courts - which would represent a license to cover-up government embarrassment - is widespread among state authorities. For now, the civil courts represent a last safeguard to ensure ministers and officials can be brought to book for any abuses they carry out. But should the Secret Courts Bill pass Parliament in the coming months, this last redoubt will be lost. MPs must not nod through these plans which would not only destroy our centuries-old traditions of fair and equal justice, but would in effect put the government above the law.

 

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Last week, lawyers for the police were partly successful in pushing a case concerning what has been described as the "sexual and psychological abuse of campaigners for social justice... by undercover ...
Last week, lawyers for the police were partly successful in pushing a case concerning what has been described as the "sexual and psychological abuse of campaigners for social justice... by undercover ...
 
 
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08:33 PM on 03/14/2013
what really gets me is this.

I joined the Lib Dems to protect the citizens of this country against secret or closed courts.

They have gone and said, well because of terrorism....

What the police did was reprehensible and should be sorted in open court. The people who were infiltrated are known to be aggressive in the pursuit of their cause, but they hardly are on the same level as the suicide bomber.

There no longer seems to be an reason to vote Lib Dem. I'm not going to bother next time because Labour have supported this as well.
11:37 AM on 02/06/2013
You only have to look at their track record to see how they'll go about implementing this regime..

They'll first go for the most sickeningly ruthless, authoritarian regime they can muster. They know it won't work, not outright, so they'll then sell it as "compromise..harmonize....over-haul". They'll force this propaganda down people's throats so many times enough people will be fall for it. In the end, you'll see an amended bill, but nonetheless a bill that was conceived by design rather than by the people and for the people these clowns claim to represent.
07:03 PM on 02/06/2013
Yes with more deaths, wrongful arrests, corrupt police getting away with their crimes, intimination in short back to the 1960's.
10:48 AM on 02/06/2013
And whilst all this is going on, doesn't it please you to know that Kate Middleton and her chummy husby are catching rays in the Caribbean.. yep, they have far more worrying concerns, apparently.
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10:23 AM on 01/28/2013
Closed courts are an abomination, the product of warped, dishonest, power-grabbing despots. These men and women, have all sworn an oath to uphold the Laws of the Land, which currently ensure we cannot be tried or convicted, except by a jury of our peers. The idea that terrorism, one of the most heinous crimes of all, which therefore carries the highest penalty upon conviction, should be heard only by government employees,stinks.
We will not, and should not, tolerate being told by our public servants, that we are less trustworthy than they. They swore to protect our freedoms and rights under the law, we should settle for nothing less.
12:30 AM on 01/24/2013
Secret courts will be abused by the authorities, for sure, destroying the last vestiges of confidence that we have in our law.
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02:07 AM on 01/27/2013
This is another reason why the government want to get rid of the human rights act, because it does cover things such as the right to a fair trial, etc. it's ironic that whilst Fleet Street goes on about freedom of the press things like this are not exposed. It exposes the way in which the press collude with politicians to keep us all in the dark. The government use the term national security, and people just buy into it.
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02:21 AM on 01/27/2013
If you are ever in a situation where you are " helping police with enquiries" if you are under caution, make sure you ask for the duty solicitor, because they will try everything they can to trick you into incriminating yourself.
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03:42 PM on 01/23/2013
We already have the secret family courts in this country. If the general population knew what went on inside these there would be uproar.
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02:09 AM on 01/27/2013
If you work for the government, I would advise not disclosing anything on open forum
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11:01 AM on 01/27/2013
If I could disclose it I would believe me. 
 
 
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03:41 PM on 01/23/2013
“Secret Courts”
mean we may never discover who won that early morning tennis match between Barack and Dave. Non-transparency about something so insignificant, doesn’t bode well.

"sexual and psychological abuse of campaigners for social justice”
Presumably an investigation branch sent up to emulate the mould-breaking efforts of Sir Jim.

“women who say they were deceived into having sex with undercover police officers”
could perhaps record future conversations. In which they ask their companion if they are part of the constabulary. Then, if it comes to court. They can enquire if an officer so readily prepared to deceive, would provide evidence that could be relied on.

“government's plans for a vast roll-out of secret courts”
may inadvertently serve in the office of the camel’s straw. Time will tell.

“where the odds are stacked in the government's favour”
having the temerity to call it a democracy, is surely resorting to rubbing-salt.

“both press and public would be left in the dark”
Unless it could be turned into a best-selling book and Hollywood blockbuster. In which only the facts had been suppressed, to protect a rogue regime.
 
“a nebulous term which the government refuses to define”
See, Star Chamber. That circumstance when a monarch would normally reprise the role of rallying point. If the armed forces/citizen reserve, were still in existence.

“embarrassment in the past”
No wonder there's no need for statutory press control.

“government above the law.”
Next, MP pay rises/limo lanes?
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clownzozo
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02:34 PM on 01/23/2013
To no one will we sell, to none will we deny or delay, right or justice. Magna carta. For over 350 years the right to a trial by jury has been held as the bedrock of democracy, made us accountable to our fellows, and not to paid government officials.
Every judge, unless he is a bad judge, knows that the right thing to do is to apply the oft-repeated saying of Lord Chief Justice Hewart in R v. Sussex Justices, ex parte McCarthy: “It is not merely of some importance, but is of fundamental importance that justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done”.
Only a despot would seek to remove our traditional right, if accused of a crime, which upon conviction will result in the loss of our liberty, or property, we have a proven and irrevocable right, to demand a hearing by our peers, the randomly selected jury. The jury whose role is not to uphold the law, but to protect us against tyranny by misuse of it, by government. The jury, our judges, have the power to nullify bad law, by refusing to convict. The power to consider whether the accused's actions, under the circumstances, were reasonable and if so acquit, even if the law had been broken.
Judges and lawyers have no such authority and are barred from placing the law in dispute. Judges and politicians want secret courts to hide their deeds. We should sack them.
06:50 PM on 01/23/2013
While no-one would disagree with your sentiments, you are again, quite wrong on some fundamental issues of fact. For example, it is not the role fo a jury tp protect us from tyranny, but simply to decide on the basis of evidence presented, issues of fact.

Judges do not want secret courts. Politicians want secret courts. If judges wanted secret courts. Lord Hewart would never have said what he said.
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07:28 PM on 01/23/2013
I suggest you Google, Jury Nullification, or take a look at the Bushell Plaque on the wall of the Old Baily
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02:01 AM on 01/27/2013
The difference with these closed courts, is that unlike a conventional trial, the degree of proof and evidence required is less. Also, the issue of guilt is a grey area too, where a jury can deliver a guilty or not guilty in a regular trial, that is not so. It's basically a glorified kangaroo court.
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02:18 AM on 01/27/2013
Most of the Magna Carta has been updated. A lot of which is covered in the human rights act, cam wants to replace it with a "bill of rights" which would mainly be about dealing with things like sex/race discrimination. But all the other things would go, this is one of many laws not only to protect human rights, but to limit government power. With secret trials, and the use of "national security" is just a legal loophole used. But referring back to your comment on the Magna Carta, the last piece that remains is Habeus corpus, and the government are already looking at ways of legally removing it. By doing so, that would give police the right to do thing like question you, without a lawyer present, etc
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11:47 AM on 01/27/2013
But Parliament cannot Lawfully do so, legal can never be sovereign to lawful, lawful being the Law of the People on the Land, legal being the Laws of the Waters, which the Law specifically bars from being applied Engkish Land dwellers.
01:50 PM on 01/27/2013
I thought even Habeus Corpus can be suspended at any time if there was a clear and present danger to country. For example the Government being assassinated iI think even the Emergency powers Act is still valid. If so then all the Government would have to do is amend that.