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How Not to Argue Against Gay Marriage

Posted: 06/03/2012 00:00

The Catholic Church was once known for the outstanding intellectual capacity of its senior figures. Scholars such as Aquinas, St Augustine and St Jerome could all unpick a subject with dazzling philosophical dexterity. As doyens of rhetorical theory, when they made a point it was powerful, compelling, steeped in learning and hard to rebut. Even an atheist like me finds much to admire in Catholicism's illustrious scholarly heritage. So, it's a bit of shame that the modern church is represented by, on this occasion, Cardinal Keith O'Brien.

He seems to possess the philosophical subtlety of a pot plant, and the communication skills of a cringe-inducing Ricky Gervais character, capable only of digging himself deeper and deeper into the quagmire of outrage with the utterance of every idiotic vowel. I am no expert, but here is my advice to the blundering Cardinal. If you are trying to appeal to traditional values, and draw moderates to your side of the argument, it's probably best to leave slavery out of it. Slavery is one of those issues that is morally repugnant to pretty much everyone in the known universe. Slavery makes incest look like a heart-warming Disney movie by comparison.

In fairness, the Cardinal's point (ironically, made during a radio interview intended to undo the earlier damage from a previous rant) was that legalizing homosexual marriage is the moral equivalent of bringing back slavery. Okay, so at least he wasn't calling for the return of slavery - it's a good start. Unfortunately, that is pretty much the only positive one could draw from such a self-destructive argument.

Institutionalised slavery has been with us for thousands of years, dating back to the ancient Egyptians and beyond, but it really reached its disgusting zenith between the 16th and 19th centuries, when the so-called Atlantic Triangular Trade saw millions of Africans shipped to the Americas to work on plantations. Some of the biggest slave owners were... yes, you guessed it... churchmen. Alarmingly, both the Catholic and Anglican Church put up staunch resistance to the call for abolition, citing the Bible's lack of condemnation for slavery as justification of its acceptable morality.

So, you can perhaps understand how Cardinal O'Brien's comments are so spectacularly damaging to his own argument. In his exposition of traditional Christian morality, he is invoking the same religious text used by pro-slavery lobbyists two hundred years ago, but is now on the opposite side. Instead of defending slavery, he is using it as a comparable evil to remind us of the horrors of homosexual marriage. In this process, and in an exquisitely fumbling way, he has proven that...

a) What is acceptable practise in the Bible (slavery) is now deemed universally immoral
b) Therefore, what is immoral in the Bible (homosexuality), is also open to revisionist thinking
c) Therefore, morality is not a fixed set of Biblical laws, but a shifting intellectual framework that evolves over time to reflect each society
d) Ergo, homosexual marriage cannot be called 'immoral' unless it is a value shared by the majority.
e) A recent poll showed UK Christians to be 61% in favour of gay marriage. This does not even include non-Christians.

Cardinal O'Brien may try to claim that the Bible alone dictates morality, but he is in for a tricky ride. May I remind you of the ban on haircuts and shaving your beard (Leviticus 19:27), the rule about not eating shellfish (Leviticus 11:10), the thing about women not being allowed to wear any expensive clothes or jewellery (Timothy 2:9), the ban on polyester clothes (Leviticus 19:19) and the fact that any descendent of an illegitimate person is not allowed in a church, even after 10 generations (Deuteronomy 23:3). Clearly, things change. These are rules that have been ignored and forgotten. This makes it logically impossible to say the Bible is unimpeachable divine law - if you are going to pick and choose from its teachings, then it becomes solely a philosophical handbook.

Cardinal O'Brien also stated that giving equal rights to homosexuals is "changing the whole notion of what marriage and what a family is..." As a historian, this is where I get a bit pedantic. Marriage is much older than Christianity, and has taken many forms. The ancient Egyptians simply required a couple to move in together, while under Roman law you could be married purely by saying "yes" to a proposal. Spartan marriages involved the bride having her head shaved, cross-dressing like a man, and being kidnapped and deflowered by her groom, followed immediately by the man's disappearance for 10 years' military service. She might see him again when he turned 30!

As for Christian marriage, it has already gone through huge changes... twice. For starters, a literal Biblical marriage is a polygamous one (Exodus 21:10) that allows a husband to stone his bride to death if she is not a virgin on their wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:22). I'm sure Cardinal O'Brien is very glad the whole notion of marriage is not as it once was. Secondly, it was barely until the 17th century that marriages were vaguely religious or even conducted in churches.

We must remember, the romantic notion of marrying for love is so new, it's still got the cellophane wrapper on it. Marriages were traditionally economic and political contracts between families. In the Early Middle Ages, money was exchanged between grooms, fathers-of-the-bride and wives to be, in much the same way that a transferred-footballer picks up a separate signing-on fee in addition to the clubs agreeing a price for him. The Saxons and Vikings were surprisingly liberal in their attitudes towards women, and the bride was given a cash sum called the 'morning gift' by her groom that she got to keep if things didn't work out. Intriguingly, if a Saxon woman were kidnapped, her husband was legally obligated to try and buy her back from slavery before seeking remarriage. His wife, however, had no such obligation if the roles were reversed.

So why were Saxon and Viking wives so well rewarded? It is because marriage had a powerful social function. Wives in this society were known as 'Peace-Weavers' - they were there to solidify unity between often fractious neighbours, and their marital role was one of applied political diplomacy, aiming to soften the hostile harshness of male aggression. Marriage was a peace treaty, and wives were the Ban Ki-moons of their village. Alas, it was the Normans, and their aggressively misogynistic brand of Christianity, who abandoned this and turned brides into ciphers for property. Women's legal rights were almost entirely stripped away, and wives became political assets for boosting one's property portfolio, and ensuring legitimate heirs. That is not to say there was no romantic love. William the Conqueror was devoted to Matilda... though he proposed to her by kicking her repeatedly, and throwing her into the mud until she said yes. You don't see that in many rom-coms.

Throughout the next few centuries, marriages were largely practical alliances devoid of much sentiment. Men often sought women for the company, cleaning and cooking, and women sought the stability and respectability of a sensible union. Such pragmatism was exemplified in the wedding service itself. Until 1754, a British marriage ceremony could be conducted anywhere, in front of any public official. Bizarrely, the most common place in London was the Fleet prison. There were more than 300 weddings a week, accounting for 50% of the capital's marriages, in this overflowing gaol. In 1754, just hours before the law changed, Reverend Dr Keith found himself conducting 100 services in a single day! Such romance...

Cardinal O'Brien seems to be yearning for tradition, but the halcyon sort that doesn't actually extend very far into the past. Admittedly, I cannot make a direct rebuttal of his case against gay marriage, because there is scant evidence of same-sex marriage in history - Roman emperors Nero and Elagabalus were known to have married male slaves, but these were not legally valid. However, the issue at stake is whether marriage is an immutable concept, and I believe history shows that it isn't. The meaning of marriage, and the way it has been performed, has changed tremendously over thousands of years. If the Cardinal wants tradition, then what could be more traditional that continuing the legacy of updating marriage to reflect our modern and humane society, where loving partners of any gender, creed or identity can choose to commit themselves in loving support of each another?

That said, I'd love to bring back the Viking wedding ceremony, which culminated in an insult competition, and then usually a fight. Some things should never change!

 

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Mac Howard
Thank god we got convicts, you got the puritans
04:24 AM on 04/15/2012
Very enlightening, Greg. That's been a very informative last few minutes. Than you!
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Daviejohn
All the world's a stage,
12:54 PM on 03/16/2012
Good article,made some good points.The Church has always lived by it's own rules as have their Clergy.
04:48 PM on 03/14/2012
Some excellent points; especially in relation to how the Church has evolved from some of the Bible's most repugnant or socially unacceptable points so why not allow the utmost message of Christianity, that is LOVE, to overrule the semantics of a few dusty old men who wrote the Bible those many hundreds of years ago?
02:35 PM on 03/12/2012
Homosexuality is a minority condition,not conducive to natural procreation.There should be no barriers to them forming liaisons or partnerships ,which do not ,however,deserve the same status as heterosexual marriages,which,owing to the appropriate anatomical equipment,makes them suitable candidates for natural procreation.
An appropriate term,other than marriage,could be devised to put such homosexual unions on an equal legal footing as heterosexual unions,thereby giving them equality in law for the purposes of inheritance and tax rights.
02:43 PM on 03/12/2012
So what about sterile people?
03:12 PM on 03/12/2012
Anatomically a sterile heterosexual couple has the anatomical equipment necessary for reproduction but some defect prevents procreation.That can never be said of any homosexual couple,who do not have the appropriate anatomical equipment within that relationship.,even when their organs are fully operative.
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Thismortalcoil
Science is the poetry of reality
02:33 PM on 03/13/2012
Gay couples can have children, and they have been shown to make great parents. Being gay does not make you infertile.
11:51 PM on 03/13/2012
A gay couple cannot without the help of a third party have children as nature intended.Surrogate mothers or fathers are needed depending upon the gender of the gay couple.
08:56 AM on 03/12/2012
I read this article and found it one of the best arguments against what was said from the Cardinal so was compelled to write a comment about how I feel about the Gay Marriage debate.

As a Half Egyptian, Coptic Christian, Jewish polysexual female I tick more boxes than necessary and although I have no plans to get married (also personal preference) I would like to think if I wanted to I would have the right to choose where I would have my ceremony.

Truth be told I don't take any particular religious view, I was bought up in a way where I was given the right to choose; what I wanted to do with my life, my religion, and who I loved so I have often done just that.

The point is, I don't go to church and I don't go to Synagogue and actually the tradition of marriage doesn't appeal to me as I think it's about as commercialised now as valentines day (a waste of bloomin' money) but if I did fall in love with someone and want to marry in a place of worship I should be able to.

Why can't I choose? Who decided to take that right away from me?

One thing people seem to think about gay marriage is that by legalising it all gay people will go and do it....lets not forget that the freedom to choose to get married at all is what we should be allowed.
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05:30 PM on 03/11/2012
Before Mr Jenna says too much about the state of the teaching by Christian Theologians he should remember that it was only a few weeks ago that one of the doyens of Atheism, Dawkins was made to sound a complete fool by one
06:41 PM on 03/11/2012
How so?

Are you refering to his conclusion that he cannot be 100% sure that there is no god. You cannot disprove a negative and all that.

The theists did very excited that didn't they? Didn't understand but got excited nonetheless.
05:14 AM on 03/13/2012
Is that the same Richard Dawkins whos been running like a terrified little school girl from the Chritian Apologist William Lane Craig.
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Philip J Sparrow
When your work speaks for itself, keep quiet
09:58 PM on 03/11/2012
Dawkins had a momentary lapse in concentration, nothing more. If this is all you have to attack him on he must be doing a pretty good job.
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YESYOUARE
11:38 AM on 03/18/2012
Philip, it is a little sad though don't you think, when Mr Richard 'we are working on that' Dawkins, the Pope of evolution who worships the ground Darwin walked on comes off second best to a Theistic evolutionist who is as liberal as they come when it comes to his understanding and belief in his bible.
05:18 PM on 03/11/2012
@probable

What does marriage have to do with breeding?
08:33 AM on 03/11/2012
With legal Civil gay unions i have not issue at all. In fact i find inconceivable in this day and age, that in a stable faithful gay civil union where one partner suddenyl dies. That unless wills are already drawn up, that a surviving partner does not automatically receive their partners effects. This said the idea of 'equalising' all marriages and unions is step too far.
The 'push' for acceptance - as they are - by gay couples I understand and support! But to say that they are equal i cannot, as the family (one of each) is and has ben the bedrock of society for decades, if not hundreds of years.
Logically if everyone 'goes gay' where goes the human race?
10:25 AM on 03/11/2012
Your last statement baffled me a little. Are you suggesting we've all got an "inner gay" and that legalising gay marriage will encourage everyone to come out?
Gay marriage = end of human race?
04:23 PM on 03/11/2012
Hi Pippinn
Fisrtly I'm not at all suggesting that we've all an 'inner gay'.. neither I am encouraging everyone to 'come out'. There is still way too much homophobia about - for my liking - to even think about this yet sadly - and I speak as a heterosexual!!!!!
Secondly I'm not suggesting that gay marriage = end of human race! What a daft assertion to try to suggest I'm making.
What I mean is this: If homosexuality were ever to become the majority then human reproduction would logically 'nosedive' and thus the species' would be in dire trouble.
To reiterate, I have no problem with gay civil unions, but marriage is for me - like I believe it is for the silent majority - a step too far.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
12:57 PM on 03/11/2012
Logically why would everyone suddenly 'go gay'?
04:30 PM on 03/11/2012
Hi, I agree not everyone would suddenly want to 'go gay'. What I'm suggesting are the logical consequences of having more 'gay' than 'straight' in the world. It is something which is rarely considered in the heat of the debate. As i 've repeatedly stated, I've no issue with gay civil unions. Neither with gay partners being automatically considered 'next of kin' in the event of the death of one partner or t'other. Simply that to equalise "marriage" is a step too far.
08:16 AM on 03/11/2012
All very contemporary european opinions on 'gay' marriage at the moment. We must also consider what, for instance, Africa, Islam, Judaism and/or others have to say upon the issue. We baulk at really 'going outside the box' in case our 'superior' thinking gets dethroned or questioned too much!!
Neil Hannigan.
02:36 PM on 03/12/2012
Such views are of more limited concern within the context of the UK. The focus is more of the views of the churches because the UK has more christians than practising Jews or Muslims.

Outside of the church views are mixed. One Jewish group wants to marry gay couples in their synagogues, where as another more traditional lot do not.
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Galician
Keep calm and carry on
09:29 AM on 03/09/2012
The subject is pretty clear to me; we are talking about if citizens should be more or less rights basing this decision on their sexual orientation. Obviously, all of them have the same obligations, but it is still not clear if they should have the same rights... and doesn't it sound wrong to you all?

Catholic Church, Church of England, Evangelist...cannot cut off our rights based on their own beliefs, specially if we don't share or follow them.
03:13 AM on 03/08/2012
I find the Cardinal's arguments unpersuasive--to say the least--but no less than the argument (that I've seen on several comments threads) that people opposed to same-sex marriage are no different from those who used to defend slavery....Maybe we should all dial it down, and stop zooming to rhetorical extremes when anyone says anything we disagree with. Neither civilization nor constitutional government as we know it hinges on whether gays can or cannot get married.
11:47 PM on 03/07/2012
How not to argue against the cardinal... While this is a fine article, I'm afraid the point has been missed. The cardinal argues not from a perspective of biblical literalism, nor for defending tradition for its own sake, but on the basis of the admired Aquinas' Natural law, which also must deride slavery. Therefore it coheres. It is, of course an entirely wrong and unsustainable view, but, I'm afraid for different reasons from the ones here outlined.
08:21 PM on 03/07/2012
I wonder if the Government as even bothered at a debate with the major Religions before ordering them to change there laws.
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AlanDente
Noses: made to hold glasses
09:36 AM on 03/08/2012
You can't debate with totalitarian views.

To debate implies that one party can change their mind. The Catholic Church currently treats church doctrine as immutable- only the Pope can change doctrine, and even then he is discouraged from doing so by tradition.

This is a Catholic policy, not just mud slinging on my part.
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Thismortalcoil
Science is the poetry of reality
07:31 PM on 03/08/2012
It's a shame isn't it. Think of the hundreds of thousands of men, women and children's lives that would be saved in Africa if the Pope would only change his mind about condoms.
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Thismortalcoil
Science is the poetry of reality
08:20 PM on 03/07/2012
On the subject of slavery, it's only 16 years ago that the last Magdalene Asylum was closed in Ireland.

These initially started as a philanthropic enterprise, but when the Catholic church took over, they became far more sinister.

Fallen women were taken against their will, locked away in buildings similar to workhouses and made to work long hours for no pay. Many former victims say they were abused by the nuns and priests running them. Some of these women were considered to be 'fallen' simply because they had been raped. Others were locked away simply because they were attractive and considered to be 'likely to fall' at some point in the future.

To date the victims of this practice have had no apology from the church, let alone compensation.