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Hate Crime Is Only Funny When It's About Women

Posted: 03/03/2013 23:00

It's not been a great few weeks to be a woman. Against the backdrop of recent allegations of sexual misconduct in politics and a thoroughly sexist Oscars ceremony, Twitter was all a flutter over the past weekend as it discovered t-shirts being sold through Amazon with the slogan 'Keep Calm and Rape Her'. The t-shirts, supplied by company Solid Gold Bomb, contain slogans that are supposedly generated by a computer algorithm with no human input and therefore no human to take responsibility for them. Realizing that there was massive outcry the company said:

"We have been informed of the fact that we were selling an offensive T-shirt primarily in the UK. This has been immediately deleted as it was and had been automatically generated using a scripted computer process running against 100s of thousands of dictionary words".

So far so good. Twitter then looked closer at Amazon and found t-shirts with the slogan 'Statistically 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape' supplied by seller CharGrilled.

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Even funnier right? Amazon were quick to remove both rape t-shirts and most people thought that was the end of the story. However, they are still selling t-shirts that have the slogans "Keep Calm and Cut Her" and "Keep Calm and Knife Her" and a whole host more, again supplied by Solid Gold Bomb.

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Is this just random algorithm or something more sinister? If it was random surely you would expect to see all the same verbs applied on the 'Keep Calm and ... Him' t-shirts, right?

No, because there are no 'Keep Calm and .... Him' t-shirts. This particular joke is reserved for women. Why is that? This must have been a decision made when a human being was programming the algorithm in the first place. Why is 'Keep Calm and Knife Her' a funny t-shirt while 'Keep Calm and Knife Him' is not?

You also don't see t-shirts bearing the phrase 'Keep Calm and lynch them' or 'Keep Calm and gas them'. Why not? Surely if the random word generating story is true we should see all these options? Imagine the public reaction to those items of clothing. We'd be utterly shocked and appalled and demand they were taken down. The reason they are not up there in the first place is because the people making choices about what words to combine know that, they know that racism and anti-Semitism are not funny and not acceptable. They do not seem to know that sexism and rape culture are not funny.

This is the problem. As some one put it on twitter "Hate crime is only funny when it's about women". We still live in a culture where slogans like this can be sold on the assumption that no one will bat an eye. This is rape culture. This is patriarchy.

It's good news that Amazon are taking action to remove these items. The clothing companies need to have a word with themselves and investigate what culture they have that allows these 'jokes' to slip through. The press also needs to look closer at what passes for excuses. The algorithm story alone doesn't stack up. Will this become the new excuse, in place of 'It's just banter!' when horrendous sexist and misogynistic comments are made in public? How come, since the eating of the apple, it's never men's fault.

 

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10:52 PM on 03/07/2013
LOL @ how the only people defending these shirts are men. how stupid do they think we are? do they seriously think people don't notice this?
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DJPotterWriter
10:09 PM on 03/05/2013
Lee Chalmers just has selective perception. The only form of violence between a man and a woman that is not condemned is when a woman slaps a man. This is portrayed quite often on television sitcoms for example, If a man does or says something that a woman doesn't like, she slaps him. Attitudes are changing, I feel, but there are still women (and even men) who think that this is morally acceptable behaviour.

I also object to the widespread belief that a man must not defend himself against a woman. If a woman (or man) were to attack me, I'd use reasonable force to neutralize the threat, as is my legal and moral right.
11:51 PM on 03/05/2013
no one was suggesting that violence by women is not harmful, but when most debilitating an fatal violence is done to women by men there is a reason to point it out and how it is being normalized.
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12:32 AM on 03/06/2013
I don't think it's being normalized at all. I think the opposite is true. You'd find it pretty difficult to find any man or woman who would label rape as acceptable. In the past, that wasn't true.
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wildzfan
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02:40 AM on 03/06/2013
Are you equating a slap to rape? Wow.
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02:08 PM on 03/06/2013
I'm issuing a significant rebuttal to Lee Chalmers's titular statement. But, now that you mention it, sexual assaults by women against men are also often treated as funny.
05:08 PM on 03/10/2013
Strange on a TV show recently the female audience( and sharon Osborne who was on the panel) cheered clapped and shouted when it was reported that a woman had cut off her husbands testicles when he asked for a divorce!
So clearly women rfind sexual violence against men acceptable/funny!
07:38 PM on 03/05/2013
So very very glad you are staying on this and asking the tough questions in the UK! I am surprised and frustrated that in the US, most people are content with Solid Gold's mea culpa (although they don't buy into it) and with the companies having removed the offending materials. This article and an earlier one by the BBC are the only media coverage I have seen of the discrepency between Amazon saying it had taken down the materials from all its websites when, in fact, it had only taken down those first identified by the public. It took close to two days before all the SG shirts were made unavaialble. I'd like to know if any money was made off this misogyny. I'd like to know why it took so long in the US but not in the UK. I'd like to know more about how Amazon does (or doesn't) review products before they are posted for sale. My continuing to ask these questions has not generated interest in the US press, but instead is attracting the ire of male and female consumers alike! Please stick with it!!
12:20 PM on 03/05/2013
Absolutely agree with Lee Chalmers. Apart from the fact that the slogans are simply not funny in any context whatsoever, the story about a computer program being responsible is utter tosh. Lee puts it much more succinctly then I ever could but she is quite right. Isn't it about time the police started knocking on the UK distributors doors and arresting people for causing alarm, harrassment and distress?
09:45 AM on 03/05/2013
On the general subject I must say that I don't like the idea of censoring anything, no matter how unappealing to some.
Specifically I must take issue with the description of the Gang-Rape T shirt as being 'sexist'. I assume that men, and not just women, can be attacked sexually by gangs of other men. It's still mildly gross, and I don't personally find it amusing, but it's not 'sexist'.
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wildzfan
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02:45 AM on 03/06/2013
The shirts say her . . . as in rape her, knife her, cut her etc. None of them say rape him, knife him or cut him. What percentage of men are gang raped compared to women (prison does not count)?
02:57 PM on 03/10/2013
So you select the facts you want then?
09:20 AM on 03/05/2013
Good one Lee - having comments removed because you don't like them. Comments are about discussion and some will be contrary to your opinion.
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07:30 AM on 03/06/2013
You are making erroneous assumption again I'm afraid. As a blogger I can't remove comments even if I wanted to. And I don't. Even when I disagree I'm glad people are engaging with the topic. I have no idea what comments were removed. Perhaps they were using foul language? Just a guess.
09:11 AM on 03/06/2013
I don't use foul language, and it was a post to which you had already responded.
I do know that you can't remove a post, but you CAN have it removed. Don't worry, i'll be ignoring you in future. I know you only post comments to increase your response-rate, which counts towards the "popularity" of your blog anyway.
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05:18 AM on 03/05/2013
The people selling these T shirts should be prosecuted and those wearing them should be sectioned.
01:43 AM on 03/05/2013
Thanks, man. I know it's not much, just to speak out against sexism, but not nearly enough men are doing it, so I guess I have to thank you. It's sincere, but it's also a bit depressing.
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DJPotterWriter
10:14 PM on 03/05/2013
That's just your perception. You'd be hard pressed to find a man who thinks that rape is acceptable, and that really is the main point. If you want more men to get angry about T-shirts, I would just point out that, when sexism is shown against men in popular culture, men don't get angry either. Perhaps men care less about silly things like this. I can understand why (some) women are upset, but really these T-shirts are self-discrediting in my view. I'd be much more interested to know how this all came about.
11:17 PM on 03/05/2013
If men didn't find rape acceptable women wouldn't be raped.
07:08 PM on 03/10/2013
What depresses me is that women in many respects are as bad as men, but if anybody dare so they have their comments removed, or like Erin Pizzey they get death threats!
Most of the facts and figures given in feminist agenda is very selective and they leave out any that don't premote their deminisation of men (Pizzey also said that)
Here is how somw feminists behave if anybody dare to disagree with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdUsl4Rz-gA
I find that depressing!
08:25 PM on 03/04/2013
It's not enough to argue that simply being offensive is funny in and of itself. Humour is about context; no subject should be inherently 'off limits' - it depends on the 'joking relationship' with the audience, and on what exactly the butt of the joke is. For example, QuentinTarantino's recent film has a funny skit at the expense of pre-KKK members: although the context is slavery, it's not a joke about slavery. One of the problems with T-shirts is that they don't have a defined audience and the intention of the wearer isn't apparent. The other problem is what the object of the joke is - what is being laughed at, and why. I don't find these slogans remotely funny, but I don't think it's impossible to think of situations where they COULD be: I'm struggling to think of an example but I still think it's possible.
12:26 PM on 03/05/2013
gpward68 - you make a very good point very well. I would argue that the T-shirt, once in the public domain, be that being worn or simply advertised for sale, anwhere any member of the public is likely to see it, it falls under the Public Order Act (S4a Public Order Act 1986)intentional harassment, alarm or distress..

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he— .

(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or .

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, .

thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

Says it all really.
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05:54 PM on 03/04/2013
In the words of Victor Meldrew, "I can't believe it!"

Unfortunately, the society we live in uses these phrases as a means of communication, humour and entertainment.

I hear kids of various ages (and I mean as young as 5 and 6) saying, "I'll rape you" and swearing offensively at each other without understanding the full import of what that actually means.

Where do they get this from?

Pretty much everywhere. Sometimes their parents; at school; often their role models like actors and actresses in the movies they watch; sports men and women sometimes; music; especially the mysoginistic rap music; from the internet: and now this.

A mate of mine chatted up a bird on FB who claimed to be in her late 30's. When she finally admitted to being only 20 (and maybe not even that) she said, "When can we meet so you can rape me?" He unfriended her after that comment.

Is that what young women are asking these days?

That sort of comment and the humour and speech is unacceptable. But how do you change society from children right the way through to adults?
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Ben Wilson
04:47 PM on 03/04/2013
I dont care what anyone says, that 9 out 10 one is funny. It's funny because its a bit clever and its funny because of its dark controversial nature. Many people don't understand humour that falls into the latter bracket and they often miss that their outrage is very much a part of the punchline. No one cracks these kinds of jokes expecting all round approval, it would be a failed joke of its genre if it did. Its all pretty much an extension of the humour deployed in any Seth Mc Farlane show, South Park and comedians like Chubby Brown and Lisa Lampanelli. But for that reason it probably doesn't belong on a shirt.
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mmartini54
Roll on 2015!
05:55 PM on 03/04/2013
You find it funny, I, genuinely, think it's not - far from it. I think 'cruel' humour is to do with your personality, how much empathy you feel towards others.
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Ben Wilson
06:30 PM on 03/04/2013
Well what does it say about your levels of understanding and empathy when you assume the worst of the people wearing ro spouting such jokes? Your mind has gone straight to pitchforks and torches. Empathy means little when you can so easily forget to think the best of people.
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09:36 PM on 03/04/2013
Well, being a Bill Hicks fan, I understand what you're saying. But rape???? Doesn't do it for me. Can't quite think what it was doing in the random words dip. I think we must have a rogue programmer in the system. Which does make me smile, rather....
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04:00 PM on 03/04/2013
So there's a few on here that don't see this as a particular problem. I'll ask you something then - your son or your daughter is a survivor of domestic abuse, your son or daughter has been raped, gang raped etc. etc.
Ask them to wear one of these would you?
Just asking!
04:20 PM on 03/04/2013
Glad to see you at least can see it is a two way street!
03:31 PM on 03/04/2013
If people didn't buy them, nobody would make them. The sickest people aren't those who design them - although they are pretty bad - but those who choose to wear them. Having said that, I don't believe the computer algorithm excuse for a second.