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The Angry Ones

Posted: 3/02/2012 08:39

Who are the incubators of a real democratic renewal in the Arab Spring? After talking to young Egyptians, among them many intellectuals, who returned to their homeland having studied at prestigious English universities, I feel confronted with a rather contradictory picture.

They fight against corruption, religious fanaticism, for human rights, women's dignity and against violation of justice. But at the same time they are irreconcilable in their hostility towards the West. "You in America and Europe have supported the tyrant Mubarak for decades and condoned his torture chambers. We do not owe you anything. We are looking for new alliances, and even though they might not be ideal they are better than the West." They prefer Putin to Obama, are trusting Turkey more than Brussels and Berlin.

They have unambiguous views of Israel and the conflict in Palestine: diplomatic relations should be reduced further if not abandoned altogether. Open borders with Gaza, considerably more military elbowroom on the Sinai Peninsula, and the end of the gas supplies - as these are squandered below cost price to the Israelis - are the demands of the young Egyptians.

Most of all they are against a two-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They stand for a single, democratic Palestinian state where Palestinian refugees can assert their right to return. The idea of a Jewish state is a reprehensible, old-fashioned 'colonial' concept to them.

The fact that the Muslim Brotherhood and the even more fanatic Salafists gained more than two thirds of parliamentary mandates will give the young Democrats of this new hue little chance to assert themselves. Thus they are not only isolated, and alienated from the West, but also a thorn in the side of the electoral victors. The likely solution - an alliance between Islamists of all shades and the army - threatens at best to force these young Democrats into an impotent opposition but worst still could lead to a breaking-up of their groups.

Economic misery; a devastating decline of the tourism which is so important for that country; unemployment amongst young people of all strata, including the academically educated, present a bleak picture.

How should the free world view this emerging tragedy?

 
Who are the incubators of a real democratic renewal in the Arab Spring? After talking to young Egyptians, among them many intellectuals, who returned to their homeland having studied at prestigious En...
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03:58 on 06/02/2012
Hmmm. Here's another question:

Why should they love us?

(Raucous, flabby tourism doesn't count.)
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
21:15 on 05/02/2012
The good lord doesn't say whether he believes these 'angry democratists' have a valid point or not. The west did indeed support 'our' tyrants over 'their' tyrants in the region, to the point of shipping kidnapped prisoners to these despots to be tortured for us. This was the first I had heard that Israel was getting below market priced oil from Egypt. It appears much of Israel's much-touted economic success in the region has been got at the expense of their neighbors and allies. Give me billion dollar loans that routinely get 'forgiven' instead of payed back and I'll become an economic success too. The game's been fixed.
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20:44 on 05/02/2012
This is a direct result of the deposition of the socialist governments in the region, which has empowered the religionists. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
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03:52 on 06/02/2012
I believe you mean oligarchies. These countries have been very far from socialist.

Oligarchy: Government by a few, especially by a small faction of persons or families.
Socialism: An economic system in which property is held in common and not individually.

Or do you mean communist? Either way, pinkos they weren't.
20:04 on 05/02/2012
who the he11 calls themselves LORD....anymore....I thought we were past the 16th century
16:35 on 05/02/2012
I would answer your last question posed:
"With a great deal of trepidation."
This is, tragically, yet another opportunity to foment instability. While the people who demonstrated in the streets may have done so for an initially noble cause, they are now disorganized, easily manipulated and increasingly angry. There are other factions - with long held axes to grind - all too willing to step in and misdirect the energy of the population. It appears that even at this point, the power is shifting to a well organized few who are using the opportunity to re-direct the situation and manipuate the anger of the people to their own political ends. It was predictable and avoidable but as usual, political expediency prevented any assertive action.
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Si1ver1ock
So long, and thanks for all the fish...
16:02 on 05/02/2012
They should cut a deal with China for infrastructure investments. Like Britain and Germany.
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15:20 on 05/02/2012
What a surprise that those we've trampled in the past are now trampling back. Good news is, though, that, like the vast majority of humanity, all we got to do is entice them with the possibility of gorging out on Chicken McNuggets and Cadillac Escalades (aka, the "good life"). That'll distract them. Just like it has the rest of us.
12:12 on 05/02/2012
The author asks: "How should the free world view this emerging tragedy?" I ask: "Who cares?" For so long as the leaders of the "free world" remain so willfully blind to the true intent of Islamists, then we will continue to be tragically surprised at the predictable outcomes arising from the "Arab Spring".

There is no excuse for this; anyone could have predicted the outcome. Yet the US State Department somehow convinced themselves that the Muslim Brotherhood was essentially a "secular organization". This sort of self-delusion has been seen before (Iran in 1979), and we should have learned from it. Instead, we repeat our mistakes, now on a grander scale.

We are being led by an "elite" of self-absorbed, insular, arrogant and naive academics who have been selectively bred to be blind to the harsh realities of the world. We are being led by people who are so convinced of their own world view that they believe those beliefs will be inevitably be adopted by others. Good luck with that. I'm not holding my breath.
14:56 on 05/02/2012
Total agreement.
16:43 on 05/02/2012
I agree with much of what you say. I do not, however, agree that "We are being led by an "elite" of self-absor­bed, insular, arrogant and naive academics who have been selectivel­y bred to be blind to the harsh realities of the world".
I don't think there's any naivete about it. I think it is calculated, deliberate and based entirely on commercial and power interests. Giving them a pass as "blind" or "naive" is to suppose that they have somehow been misled by their own beliefs. I don't believe that at all and I think it's far too generous. Whatever blindess is involved is selective and intentional and whatever naivete is present is completely disingenuous and exists only for the benefit of cameras and posterity. There is nothing accidental about any of this.
17:24 on 05/02/2012
Either way, the outcome is identical, isn't it?

I must say that I cannot for the life of me see how any commercial interest is advanced by making believe that radical Islam is not on the rise.
11:46 on 05/02/2012
it sounds like were all in the same boat
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southingtonian
"I'm a Capricorn and you can't make me do sh*t.."
03:19 on 06/02/2012
agreed, and the myopic, who cannot see beyond their limited section of the planet, are more and more likely to act out in a manner that threatens the existence of life on the planet.
10:35 on 05/02/2012
Democratic elections, free and fair, will result in a governing structure that reflects, to some degree, the cultural and societal values of the electorate. Imagine bestowing "democracy" on 14th century Germany or France or England...and what the voters would grant themselves. Or consider the democratic results of the late Weimar Republic in the early 1930s...and who won enough seats in the Reichstag to form a government. Sadly, "Arab Spring" doesn't bode too well for women, gays and lesbians, Christians and Jews, freethinkers and atheists. There's still a long, long way to go before any good comes of this brave new world.
08:44 on 05/02/2012
It's predictable. They blame the U.S. and other Western countries for supporting Mubarak. But Obama didn't support Mubarak. Nevertheless, they will continue to detest the U.S. and the rest of the West (never mind that they hypocritically live in the West and take advantage of its privileges). History and context mean nothing to these people. They will always and forever h ate the West and the Jews. Nothing anybody could say or do will ever change that. They're stuck in the MIddle Ages and always will be.
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14:16 on 06/02/2012
And yet in the Middle Ages, the Muslim world was much more well disposed towards Jewish people than Christendom was.

They wouldn't hate the West so much if we didn't meddle in their affairs so outrageously, in my opinion.
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Get 2 birds stoned at once
06:40 on 05/02/2012
We know, we know. Those darn Egyptian peasants should just put Mubarak (or a reasonable facsimile) back in power so that Israel has one neighbour that's on speaking terms with them. We know, We know.
12:00 on 04/02/2012
"How should the free world view this emerging tragedy?"

That is not a tragedy, the free world should embrace them, because they are expressing their views freely. The tragedy is after 60 plus years of subjugating people, you folks haven't figured out there are consequences.
10:36 on 05/02/2012
"...they are expressing their views freely." What ARE those views? And would you care to live in a society governed by those views, with no recourse?
Think before opining.
17:41 on 05/02/2012
Read the article what those views are. They don't want to have anything to do with you folks in Israel, as long as you have the Palestinians under domination. It is very clear and very logical. No matter how much you suger coat it, Israel is an apa.rtheid nation with population that are bra.inwashed by being scared to de.ath that everyone in the world wants to kill them.
16:47 on 05/02/2012
I'm confused. Your response seems to be saying that their freely expressed views are constituted almost entirely by anger to the west - a consequence of years of subjugation - and, as part of the free world, we should embrace that?
17:43 on 05/02/2012
Don't be confused. Yes, and stop bombing people in the middle east if you want to be liked. Simple as that, ask Ron Paul.
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Never let them tell you it can't be done.
09:12 on 04/02/2012
Well, seeing as you see the Muslim Brotherhood as fanatics, and one of the more sensible solutions to the mess in the Holy Land as too radical to contemplate, I'm guessing you are missing the days when Mubarak ruled and suppressed anything that interfered with you being able to dictate what was and was not allowed for Egyptians.
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blutopie
maui ono
03:58 on 04/02/2012
Egypt doesn't need tourism and camel photo ops of Brits pretending to be Lawrences - Egypt needs development, out from under the boot of a puppet-dictator supported by the West

Go Arab Spring!