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War With Iran? A Summary of What You Need to Know

Posted: 27/03/2012 00:00

Before the end of March the IAEA will reveal their next steps in the cat-and-mouse game over Iran's alleged nuclear weapons development programme.

The general impression given by 'Western' news reporting lines on the issue is that Iran is intent on developing a nuclear weapon, but this simply hasn't been proven yet because Iran has been concealing its accelerating nuclear weaponisation activities, and soon they will be so deep underground that they will be militarily impenetrable. Hence the apparent urgency - and the prospect of a third and fourth IAEA delegation visit within two months.

This narrative lies behind the US, UK and French military build up around Iran - in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Azerbaijan, Djibouti and Bahrain, on the islands of Socotra and Masirah, and in the waters off the coast of Iran. It also underpins the drive towards blockade-type economic sanctions which will apply from 1 July 2012. The logic is that by applying economic and military pressure, the Iranian regime will be forced to negotiate to give up its nuclear weapons programme, cease uranium enrichment to 20%, and allow more intrusive IAEA inspections.

Is this 'pro-war' narrative supported by the facts, or does it have elements similar to those from 2002 over Iraq? Is there a campaign to go to war regardless, and are the facts being fixed around the policy? If the latter, then the implication is that the blockade-type sanctions and the military build up are simply preparations for war, rather than part of a complex negotiating strategy. Unfortunately it does look that way if the hard facts are contrasted with the information which is fed to the media by military and security institutions on both sides of the Atlantic.

However the Iran situation is very different to Iraq. Obama and his top military and security appointees are against war with Iran, and state quite clearly that, based on information from all top US intel agencies, Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. They go further and state that Iran has not made any decision to do so in the future, has not diverted any nuclear material, and is currently enriching uranium ton 20% for civilian purposes.

Obama's Secretary of Defence, Leon Panetta, and his Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dempsey, have both warned Israel that if they try and drag the US into a war with Iran, by attacking unilaterally, it will not work, and the US will not 'complete the job' (Israel cannot complete such a mission on its own).

What is astonishing to most politicians in the UK and the rest of Europe is that a campaign for war is being pursued on an global basis by some institutions in the US, with the support of the Israeli leadership, against the wishes of the President and his top military, security and diplomatic officials. Indeed, it is widely concluded that the campaign to go war with Iran is as much about engineering an Obama defeat in this years elections than it is about stopping Iran from weaponising its nuclear capability.

There are some tell-tale signs that help to clarify this.

First, Iran was first accused of developing a nuclear weapon in 1982, when it was predicted to have a deliverable weapon by 1984. In 1984 Jane's Defence Weekly announced that Iran would have a bomb by 1986. This pattern has been repeated many times since, until 2009 when the 'bomb-in-two-years' story flashed across everyone's news screens again.

The news narrative following the latest (8 Nov 2011) IAEA report reflected again this repeated accusation. However, the report itself in effect concurred with the USA's 2007 and 2010 combined intel reports (NIEs), that the Iranians gave up their fledgling weaponisation programme in 2003.

Second, the 8 November IAEA report referred to some additional concerns arising from new information about nuclear weapons development at the site where Iran develops its conventional longer range missiles - Parchin, a site visited by IAEA inspectors a number of times. This information (since ridiculed by US experts) was said to have originated from a laptop obtained by the IAEA via Israel - a laptop that was not available for independent verification. It was Parchin that the Iranian's are alleged, controversially, to have refused an IAEA visit in February. The 'Parchin affair, looks very similar to events in the run up to Iraq war.

These manoeuvrings are reflected in the UK, with hawkish tones coming from the UK Foreign Secretary - who said 'There can be no plausible civilian explanation for Iran's nuclear enrichment' - but PM Cameron more recently reflecting the White House line and warning Israel that there can be no justification at present for an attack.

Will there be an Israeli attack before the new blockade sanctions apply on 1 July 2012, or a US/UK attack after? It depends who wins the argument. Given the devastating effect that such a war will have on the world economy and in loss of life, it is worth keeping one's eye on the manoeuvrings in Washington DC and London. We can only await new negotiations and for the Iranians to ratify the 'Additional IAEA Protocol' and allow more extensive inspections.

 
Before the end of March the IAEA will reveal their next steps in the cat-and-mouse game over Iran's alleged nuclear weapons development programme. The general impression given by 'Western' news repor...
Before the end of March the IAEA will reveal their next steps in the cat-and-mouse game over Iran's alleged nuclear weapons development programme. The general impression given by 'Western' news repor...
 
 
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02:58 AM on 04/02/2012
Iran is well known to sponsor terrorism, only for that alone I am not really going to care when someone hits them back. The Iranian Government could have chosen not to sponsor terrorism and not to threaten their neighbours but they do exactly the opposite, it is everyone's responsibility to support any country stopping Iran's violent policies.
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oferdesade
11:38 AM on 04/01/2012
u make all this seem as if the west is being drawn into a war with iran by israel for reasons either justified or not (depending on which hype u believe). lets look @ the question from a different angle. why would israel want to go to war with iran? if u believe israel is an imperialistic power how demented must it be to believe it can "conquer & keep" iran? any attack on iran would cost thousands of israeli civilian lives. it's hitek infrastructure might be destroyed & it would possibly ruin its economy. if its a question of weakening hamas & hizbullah - they bopth seem 2 b on their way out in one way or another (hamas being institutionalized & hizbullah losing its syrian & iranian backing). conquer the oil? didnt work in iraq, why should it work in iran?
on the other hand, when a regime is globally and actively supporting terrorism; when it swears it will oblitirate israel; when it refuses to let you inspect, one would be a fool to wait for others to protect you - especially when they have mostly failed to do so in the past. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
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hearthammer
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10:11 AM on 04/01/2012
Look at it from this point of view. If the Iranians DO possess nukes, do you really think that Israel's first strike would not be met by a counter strike?

If they do NOT possess nukes, then Israel will have committed genocide and will cease to exist as a civilised nation.

Before ANY first strike, the facts better be known and known well.
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oferdesade
11:39 AM on 04/01/2012
better to be casticized for being uncivilized than lamented as non-existent.
06:00 PM on 04/01/2012
Pretty much what Nazis stated when their paranoia over a world wide (and equally illusory) "Jewish conspiracy" was questioned.
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hearthammer
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08:36 AM on 04/02/2012
But if you indulge in first strike histrionics, you WILL be hit by a counter strike! Where does that leave Israel? Get some politicians that can think beyond war, war ,war!
07:23 AM on 03/28/2012
This is all startlingly familiar is it not?!

The IAEA, weapons programs that are pretty much unproven, dodgy unconfirmed "evidence", a whipping up of the "threat" to the West. Of course public opinion is against war or an attack again, but when has that mattered on any issues, domestic or otherwise. It is debilitating to stand by and watch these feckless leaders marching us into a situation which may push Iran towards more radical actions. We need strong diplomacy not bullets and bombs. The threat of escalation with the Sunni/Shiite power blocks in the Middle East (with helpful Western interference of course) is too great, and would spread economic chaos out from the Middle East. We cannot afford that, well "we" being normal people. And the normal people in Iran, good people by most accounts, will like the Iraqi populace, suffer the most.
07:43 PM on 03/27/2012
When are the IAEA going to inspect Iraels nuclear sites? When is the world going to begin the sanctions and threats of military actions ? When is the hypocrisy and double standards going to end ? You gain no creedence to your demands or actions with that type of diplomatic credability. Shame on you U.S. and allies.
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oferdesade
11:40 AM on 04/01/2012
when will the iaea inspect israeli nukular sites? perhaps when israel threatens to destroy another country with them?
02:53 PM on 04/01/2012
They already did, Egypt, 1973.
03:58 PM on 03/27/2012
Which "nuc. we*ponization activities"? The one that doesn't exist per various reports from various intel agencies and experts?

Even the Amano-ized IAEA report tried to make a lot of noise and fearmongering without any evidence. Refer to the opinions of Kelley, Blix and El-Baradei (real experts).

Quote "The general impression given by 'Western' news reporting lines on the issue is that Iran is intent on developing a nuclear weapon, but this simply hasn't been proven yet because Iran has been concealing its accelerating nuclear weaponisation activities, and soon they will be so deep underground that they will be militarily impenetrable. Hence the apparent urgency - and the prospect of a third and fourth IAEA delegation visit within two months". end quote.
04:06 PM on 03/27/2012
Even the latest IAEA report from Amano tried to make a lot of noise and fearmongering without any evidence.

Refer to the opinions of Kelley, Blix and El-Baradei on IAEA's latest report (real experts).
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06:49 PM on 03/27/2012
It's not just the IAEA report -- the western media are doing their best to whip up misinformation and insinuation, too.

For instance, it was widely reported that the IAEA had "abruptly" ended its visit because Iran had allegedly "refused" to let them inspect a "key nuclear site"...

But in fact, the visit ran precisely to schedule (as announced in advance on the IAEA website).
And the site in question is a military site, not a designated nuclear site, which means that the IAEA is obliged under the terms of the NPT to formally request and receive permission for a special inspection -- which is precisely what the subject of negotitation on that visit was. (btw: Parchin was inspected in 2005 to the satisfaction of the IAEA)

But I know you know that already. I was just letting off steam.
03:40 PM on 03/27/2012
Iran doesn;t have a nuc. we*ponization program (intel reports from various countries in the news). And, they have already volunteered and accepted for additional inspections and even with the presence of human monitors at their facilties (CNN's interview w/one of their officials last week) in return for their right to nuc. energy for elec. and med. research and use.

Some are trying w/ more lies to start more w*rs like the lies to scare the people and justify starting the w*r and invasion of Iraq in major media beforehand.

Meanwhile, we haven't even paid 1 penny for the cost of the Iraq invasion, all charged to the national debt and to the people and future generations with money that doesnt exist (currently over $15.5 trillion in the red, real-time national debt chart: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ )

The horror it is to live in Iraq, b*mbs blown in the cities every once in awhile, and the affects of depleted urani*m all over the cities and their catastrophic health and environmental impacts due to that very foolish, costly and inhuman w*r based on lies by the same people who want to start another one.

In the case of Iran, add to the health and environmental catastrophy which affects many generations and hundreds of years due to the usage of depleted ura. in ammunitions etc., the radioactive fallout from b*mbing the nuc. power plants & facilties, for many hundreds of years, also.
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03:07 PM on 03/27/2012
It is an informative article but the one and only thing the US needs to know is
Stay out of it. It’s not our obligation or our business. Israel may control our political leaders but they do not control the people. Leaders can always be changed and the ones we have now will be changed [except Obama]
07:46 PM on 03/27/2012
Nice nighthawlk.
09:45 PM on 03/27/2012
Hitler wasn't America's business either... Until he was. Too bad he wasn't stopped when he was just threatening the Jews. Too bad Iran will also be ignored while it only threatens the Jewish state.
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novelist2000
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05:03 AM on 03/28/2012
Hitler was not only not stopped but supported. With Germany being impoverished first by the Versailles reparations and then the Depression, there was a very real chance that the Reds would have taken over and nationalized all factories and other property. That was during Stalin's reign and to avert communism in Germany, the only alternative that had traction was supported - which happened to be Hitler.

It occurs often that countries engage in a war to distract from domestic difficulties, but I don't know if the American and British situation is in that phase. The Iranian change in 1979 may have well led to nationalization of their oil fields, which some people may find attractive to change back.
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hearthammer
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09:59 AM on 04/01/2012
So maybe you can tell us when the IAEA will be inspecting Israel's nukes?
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Wisdo
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02:00 PM on 03/27/2012
Very strange article!

"What is astonishing .....is that the campaign to go war with Iran is as much about engineering an Obama defeat....than it is about stopping Iran"

If thats true it is astonishing indeed. As a theory it seems fairly far fetched on the surface. That Israel would go to such lengths when Obama has more or less completely capitulated on the question of their illegal settlements seems to go against the law of parsimony. That republicans or other far-right hate groups would do so (including the infamous PNAC) is perhaps less so. But if an underground PNAC succeeds in toppling Obama by dint of an Israeli attack on Iran what do the Israelis get out of it, other than a hail of bullets? A further increase on the yearly billions? doubtful in this economy. Their own former head of state security Meir Dagan criticised any attack on Iran as "reckless and irresponsible".

I'd park this under "conspiracy theories" I'm afraid.
04:13 PM on 03/27/2012
Perhaps the fear is that a second term Obama wouldn't have to capitulate quite so much.
01:07 PM on 03/27/2012
I think that piece summarizes very well the real motives behind the warmongering or ''threat inflation'' as it is being called. If Israel attacks, there will be global economic chaos.
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Richard Pearce
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06:49 AM on 03/27/2012
Does anyone seriously think that Iran agreeing to the voluntary (supposedly) Additional Protocols will result in any change in the US stance, and result in anything more than a very temporary lull in the campaign to crush Iran's independence by increasing economic (and terroristic) attacks?
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Nighthawlk
03:10 PM on 03/27/2012
You have that right, but it is not the US stance per se it is the Jewish money's stance.
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Richard Pearce
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03:53 PM on 03/27/2012
Nope, it is the US cannot stand to see a country that has broken from its dominance not suffer severely for daring to do so (it is more forgiving to countries that slowly and quietly slip out from under US control, but Veneluela, Iran, VIet Nam, and Cuba did it abruptly and publically, and the US is determined to crush them if it can, and extract a severe price from them if it can't) The Israeli/AIPAC stuff is just a way of justifying its behaviour to itself.
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dd35-scot
08:04 PM on 03/27/2012
You sir have hit the nail on the head.You have obviously done the research.There are now only three countries in the world now whose governments own their own Central/National bank.1)Cuba,2)North Korea and 3).........You guessed it Iran and until recently there was a fourth one Libya but then we all know what happened to that country.
05:07 AM on 03/27/2012
Talking about the worst scenario for the US in this confrontation is the mainstream of articles. I think, seeing from American citizens' perspective, and understanding their legitimate fear of creating another Iraq, is essential, but I believe that it is necessary to see the situation from the point of view of Iran's intelligentsia, for them not the war, but becoming another North Korea is the worst case scenario. Although powerful short term sanctions can cause an unpredicted economic chaos in Iran (which is useful), aimless long term sanctions could be really harmful towards Iran's middle class by making them poorer, and therefore; leaving them without proper education which consolidates the power of the Islamic fundamentalists.
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Richard Pearce
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09:17 AM on 03/27/2012
An interesting twist on reality. That Iran's middle class has grown under the rule of 'the Islamic fundamentalists', and that Iran's 'isolation' under the onslaught of US santions has them going from a country that offered only oil to countries outside the region, and nothing much inside the region to a country that has corporations doing multinational business, and that are coming to dominate trade in the region seems to have escaped you. As, it appears, has the sustained, large effort to promote science and education by the 'Iranian regime' that has taken them from being a third world country in those areas to the equal of EU countries.
11:21 AM on 03/27/2012
First of all "dominate trade in the region", what is your source for that?. Well as an Iranian, I should say that the uprising of Iran's middle class economically, and intellectually belongs to the era of two reformist presidents(Hashemi Rafsanjani and Mohammad Khatami) not to the supreme leader Khamenei or the current president Ahmadinejad, and now the middle class is in decline mostly because of reckless economic policies and partly the sanctions . Humanities are under attack from Islamization after Iran's presidential election in 2008, and many university students are facing political charges.
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Richard Pearce
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04:08 PM on 03/27/2012
Largest cement source in the region Largest auto industry in the region (in fact, #10 in the world) Second and third biggest trading partners are not oil importers, but other oil exporters in the region Several joint projects with neighboring states where Iran is providing the expertise and equipment, with major contributions of the partner being just money. Should I go on? PS, yes the 'reformist' (though, of course, the US description of them was 'extremist/hardliner' while they were in power, just as it is with Ahmadinejad, and would have been for Mousavi, if he had been able to get enough of the Iranian public to vote for him, shortly after he took office) government leaders who preceded Ahmadinejad played a role in getting Iran out of the third world class the Shah drove it to, but their policies were the same as Ahmadinejad, which is to say invest in science and education and support Iranian business. You sound a lot like the Republicans dissing Obama, despite him following the same basic policies.
08:22 PM on 03/27/2012
Labeling me as a republican or right wing does not solve (actually I'm a moderate socialist), you should look at your data base, for instance, India and japan are major oil importers and also the second and third importers of Iran's economy. About automobile industry, I must say because of high taxes on Imported Cars,their prices are too high for ordinary Iranians, therefore; Iran's automobile industry is not competing with anybody, but because of Its low quality does not have any chance oversee, and its main buyers are Iranians who do not have other options. Having large resources does not mean anything till the production is low,Iran also has largest natural gas reserves, and impressive Oil reserves,also has the largest gold and copper mines in the region, but you can not call an economy prosperous when the inflation is about 18%,and the unemployment rate 15%.The country has enormous problems with or without sanctions.

The ignorance of the US policy makers at that time is not my source of data and never will be , you better to keep it open minded about Iran,the thing that you are hearing, I'm living it, for example "the third world class the Shah drove it to" shah inherited a country with illiteracy rate of 84%, what do you think of Iran in those ages before him,wealthy Achaemenid Empire? he built the country from ground.
05:05 AM on 03/27/2012
Perhaps we have missed a trick and Iran should have nuclear weapons.

If both they and Iraq had had them a few years back, and if those that put forward the theory of MAD are right (the lack of nuclear wars suggests they might be) there would have been no Iran Iraq war.

As a consequence, Hussein wouldn't have rolled into Kuwait to claim his 'reward', avoiding both the 1st and 2nd gulf wars, and could have been, to this day, one of the few Arab leaders the US could (sort of) rely on.
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Richard Pearce
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09:28 AM on 03/27/2012
Well, the US was quite supportive of the Shah's nuclear program, which didn't involve the sort of broad general research that the present one does, but did involve weapons grade material and no real oversight as to what was being done with that material, so if they hadn't kicked him out the second time, the Iranians might have had nuclear weapons (to go along with the chemical weapons they inherited, but refused to use even when they were being attacked by them with the US being fully complicit in those attacks) when Saddam tried to wipe them from the map.
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04:25 AM on 03/27/2012
All one need to know is that military attack on Iran or not, oil prices will continue to climb since this upcoming sanction will cut several million barrels of oil a day out of normal global oil stock, Iranians did live during Iraq war with fraction of their present oil output at ten dollars a barrel or so during 1980's, world economy as we know it will disintegrate well before a 6000 year old country will!
05:06 AM on 03/27/2012
do not forget about pollution bill
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Baghooli
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05:04 AM on 03/28/2012
...!
03:16 AM on 03/27/2012
The Chickenhawks have a documented history of lying.

They have no credibility whatsoever.

Any war of convenience, waged for the benefit of another nation or multinational corporations, should be on a "pay go" basis.

I'd bet that simply reinstating the 1954 Eisenhower tax rate of 91% on all income over $200,000, in order to finance a war of convenience, would stop most warmongers cold.
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Nighthawlk
03:21 PM on 03/27/2012
That's a better plan than we have now, but it is not better for lives of our soldiers. THE ONLY time a US soldier should be armed is to protect our nation.

Let the other countries and all of the corporations hire mercenaries.
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dd35-scot
08:12 PM on 03/27/2012
It costs the American taxpayers between $815,000 and $850,000 dollars per annum to keep one US soldier in Afghanistan.There are currently about 25,000 US soldiers there now.