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What Country Are the English Defence League Trying to Save?

Posted: 03/09/2012 00:00

"This is my fucking country. This is my fucking country."

Pinned up against a wall, both arms wrenched behind his back, the man in the football shirt would not be silenced. "This is my fucking country."

I move closer to get a better view. He sees me: "Fuck off, fuck off, fuck off..." Two policemen try to squeeze him further into the wall, subduing him against the bricks. It doesn't work.

His face now entirely sculpted by anger, the detainee continues his child-like resistance: "Fuck off, this is my fucking country. It's my country."

As he is led to the police van, little visible about the man remains human. His mouth twisted and locked with fury - even his body, contorted out of shape by restraint and rage, seems to betray his animal origins.

His face lit red by sunburn, his clothes dirtied and frayed from the scuffle with the police... one last time before the door is closed: "This is my fucking country."

Around 200 members of the English Defence League (EDL) journeyed to Walthamstow on Saturday to protest against the town's Muslim community.

The marchers had dressed their protest with placards warning of "creeping Islamazation" and the "threat of Sharia", their chants hitting the more base notes of the late Oriana Fallaci, interspersed with modified songs from terraces: "We're the famous EDL".

There were no Nazi salutes; there were no visible beer cans. As the group formed outside the station, the pack became recognisable as a football crowd - men travelling on a train to an "away-day" fixture, boozing on the journey, seeing old friends, before meeting the enemy on their own turf.

Once on the march and confronted by a rival protest organised by Unite Against Fascism (UAF) and local residents, some EDL members offered less politicised viewpoints.

"Go and rape your fucking sister," one man barked to an Asian protester stood on the other side of the police line.

"Shave your beard you dirty fucking cunt," shouted another.

Non-Muslims - white and black - that showed any form of disapproval were met with chants of "you're not English anymore".

Violence erupted on the Forest Road, started by UAF demonstrators, who threw glass bottles into the crowd. One man started throwing flowerpots. The EDL pushed at the police line, but nothing was thrown back.

By the time the marchers finally reached their protest point, the UAF had gathered enough numbers to force the police to call off the event. Bottles hit a van draped in the English flag. UAF protesters shouted: "Without the police you'd be fucking dead."

More missiles were thrown, now at the EDL leadership who were stood outside Walthamstow Magistrates' Court, cut off from the main pack.

The man in the football shirt was detained. "It's my fucking country"

...Except it isn't his country.

His colour, his culture, his race may put him in the majority, but his views place him firmly in a minority - a minority even smaller than the three million Muslims in the UK that apparently pose such a direct threat to his "British way of life".

There is a genuine debate to be had over multiculturalism, particularly in regards to Britain's Islamic community and how to encourage integration without cultural dilution.

There is also a debate about freedom of speech and the right to political protest - a right the EDL was seemingly denied.

More grand still is the question of all religion and whether society can truly progress if shackled with bronze-age beliefs and superstitions.

However, marching 200 angry men up a High Street in one of London's most ethnically diverse suburbs, while shouting, "fuck off Islam" and "who the fuck is Allah?" does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of political protest, or the points of multiculturalism in the UK or religion in the modern world.

Whatever country the EDL are trying to salvage, it isn't one worth saving.

 

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01:57 AM on 09/30/2012
I think a lot of the resentment that's expressed towards multiculturalism is due to the people of this island never being consulted about it yet it is having a very real, tangible impact on the daily lives of those who take issue with it. Yet, these people are simply labeled as bigots, racists, xenophobes or some other character assassination and their concerns remain unresolved.

There's a historically based resentment in my area towards Asians because a large local factory burnt down back in the 60s and when a new one was built, it didn't hire local people anymore, it bused in Asians from the city. I think that there's a story behind all intolerance and it can't be dealt with by stigmatizing it.
02:38 AM on 09/25/2012
what country is this can some one tell me it is not the U.K any more and the way we are going i think it will sink
03:07 PM on 09/11/2012
Why do the anti facists always turn up at EDL marches , this inflames the situation, Let them march and have their say , then the pro islams can march the following week. This is freedom of speech.
concodtob
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05:46 PM on 09/12/2012
Because they are hypocritical anti-fascists. They oppose only the English man who waves a plackard that says: " No to sharia law" Yet when an Islamic extremist waves a plackard calling for sharia law, the response from the AFL is....... ssssssshhhhhhhh - silence.
01:07 PM on 09/11/2012
WHY WAS MY POST TAKEN DOWN? tHE DAILY MAIL WOULD HAVE PRINTED IT.
03:10 PM on 09/11/2012
maybe you offended a country living libral, whose only contact with a muslim is the nice chap at the local spar
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04:19 AM on 09/11/2012
Wow .... this thread is like kicking over a big rock ...... look at the creatures that have crawled out.
02:57 PM on 09/11/2012
please expand on your comment
03:05 PM on 09/10/2012
In answer to the question within the title : A country that does not slaughter animals in a barbaric way in which the animal takes upto 5 minutes to die, to obtain Halal meat. A country that does not condone peadophilia... a country does not see women as second-class citizens, a country that does not believe anyone who doesnt believe in the national religion deserves death, A country that beleives in freedom and democracy... are they enough reasons for you ???
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05:13 PM on 09/10/2012
That's not England.
02:37 PM on 09/10/2012
The EDL does represent a good majority of people views in this country, its just that they are too afraid to air that view. Where I live in the west midlands , we see more and more pakistani muslims moving into our area, the schools are filling up with them. Everyone that is born in this country marries a pakistani from pakistan, this allows them to come over live settle,claim benifits,then british citizenship, then they are entitled to movetheir familys over here , this is continuing and in 20 or 30years time this country will be majority asian, we cannot stop it.
At Birmingham international airport every ambulance in the region is called in whenever a plane comes from india or pakistan, The Airport had to buy 500 wheelchairs to cope with the demand from just these flights. Let me tell you if you need an ambulance when these planes land , you will not get one. I work at the airport. They get straight off the plane and off to hospital for free treatment,
The EDL is making a point , but because of the idiots it attracts they cant make a valid point.
Multicultralisum is great. But if a car park is full then you need a car to leave before you can get in.
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11:21 PM on 09/09/2012
weve lost this country, its done, finished, absolutely knackered...im voting now for britainfirst
03:42 PM on 09/08/2012
actually if you leave London you will find his views represent the majority. i also note that there was nothing about the disgusting and violent behaviour of muslims and other immigrants to this country.
the real England still exists in the majority of the country, that is the countryside and rural counties, they all have low crime and are safe.
10:27 PM on 09/09/2012
no it doesn't
12:04 PM on 09/10/2012
yes it does, i live in such an area, i pity folk like you trapped in the cities and watching your world crumble around you, actually that is why so many of you buggers are washing up on our shores.
01:39 AM on 09/10/2012
No, his views don't represent the majority at all.

You wnat to know about the majority? They were yelling for Mo Farah to win his gold medals. Millions and millions, cheering him on.
12:06 PM on 09/10/2012
actually they werent, boy do you need to get out more or first of all stop believing the Biased Broadcasting company and its bible the Guardian, no one round here gave a damn about him or any of the others, oh and he is Somalian, his twin brother is, his father is his mother is and so are his siblings, he himself moved to the USA several years ago and plans to stay there.
06:13 PM on 09/05/2012
As for muslim's following Islam,Islam and violence cannot be seperated.
This is what they are taught,anyone who dont believe are looked on as less than human,they should be converted or killed,according to the koran,which mentions killing,500 times.
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05:15 PM on 09/10/2012
You should try the old testament some time!
07:20 PM on 09/10/2012
Reference.
concodtob
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12:03 PM on 09/05/2012
I agree that the EDL don't have anything to offer, but at least they are willing to protest against islamic extremism, unlike the UAF, ANL, and the socialist workers party. It takes some low-foreheads and knuckle-draggers from the EDL to essentially oppose the likes of Islam4uk, the saviour sect, and other extremist Muslim organisations who plan to set up sharia law zones in the UK. By the way, i absolutely condemn the thugs and Nazis of the EDL, but not all share those same views.

The fact that there are no leftwing protests against sharia law rallies and no condemnation or counter protest against the burning of poppies, say's it all. Why don't the leftwing, anti-fascist, organisations, protest with the same zeal against Islamic extremists, as they do the EDL/BNP?
03:44 PM on 09/08/2012
very good comments and excellent points but the left who see these people as voting fodder will always be prepared to sell out the country for their aims, which they dont seem to understand will never be achieved when muslims get power.
they remind me of the naive Germans who believed they could control Hitler and the Nazis. to late they realised their mistake.
concodtob
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04:17 PM on 09/08/2012
I've yet to receive an explanation from someone who is on the far-left - as to why Islamofascism is off-limits to their anti-fascist agenda.  
10:33 PM on 09/09/2012
er.... because their are no marches to in favour of sharia law?
this is a democratic country & the extremists are a tiny tiny minority (same mindset as the edl btw)- you could not set up sharia law zones in the same way that you could not set up anti-gravity zones.
concodtob
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12:08 AM on 09/10/2012
Oh yes there are. I was born in Luton and used to live there. There was a demonstration of several hundred Islamic extremists, led by Anjem Choudary, and there wasn't a single leftwing counter demonstrator in sight. Neither were there any leftwing demonstrators to counter the extremists who burnt poppies on rememberance day. In actual fact, some voices on the left criticised the banning of Islam4uk, which says it all.
09:28 AM on 09/04/2012
The EDL are creating the very thing they are trying to prevent and ruining the very thing they are trying to protect. They are a tiny minority yet are trying to impose their extremist veiws on all the rest of us
03:44 PM on 09/08/2012
a tiny majority that represent the silent majority
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01:04 PM on 09/09/2012
Has the "silent majority," broken its silence to talk exclusively to you?
01:42 AM on 09/10/2012
No they don't. You people are ludicrously out of touch.
06:15 AM on 09/04/2012
Ignorance breeds fear.
Fear breeds hate.
Hate breeds suffering.
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02:55 PM on 09/04/2012
pidgeons get the message and fly away
01:49 AM on 09/04/2012
I think it's part of a vibrant democracy.Any political idea/movement needs popular movements as well.This is because, especially in a firmly conservative class society like Britain democratic change is not easy to achieve.You need the masses to go out into the streets and put weight behind it to force changes.I wish I was capable of going into the streets and protest for my ideals.I can't because of being visually handicapped, I mean it's one thing to write about them and debate them it's another to put your life on the line and defy the political establishment.Of course words like animals and this is not your country are terms that have been spoken by any elite in the past , you know the rabble rousing peasants? But they often end up with there head under a guillotine.We should be glad to have these kind of movements in the end it's the only protection against tyranny you have.
08:28 PM on 09/04/2012
Is more a sign of a decaying democracy. There is nothing vibrant about loonies.
03:45 PM on 09/08/2012
true but the left will always be here causing trouble and whipping up violence.
01:44 AM on 09/10/2012
I see. Drunken hate filled, violent louts are a protection against tyrrany.

Not in my universe they aren't
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