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An Open Letter to David Cameron on Civil Marriage and Civil Partnership Equality

Posted: 15/06/2012 09:17

Dear David Cameron,

The Peter Tatchell Foundation welcomes and thanks the government for its commitment to legalise same-sex marriage by 2015. We see this issue as a simple matter of equality and non-discrimination.

In a democratic society, everyone should be equal before the law. There should be no exceptions, not even on the issue of marriage.

Barring same-sex couples from marriage is unjust discrimination that serves no public good. It signals that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people are deemed inferior, second class and unworthy of marriage.

In contrast, legalising same -sex marriage is the recognition that LGBT people are of equal worth, equally part of humanity and have the right to the equal validation of their love and commitment.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that everyone is entitled to equal treatment and protection against discrimination, including the right to marry. UK equality legislation enshrines this same principle: equal human rights for all.

Marriage equality is consistent with these human rights values and principles.

The Coalition for Marriage has amassed 559,000 signatures against same-sex marriage; many of whom signed in the false belief that the government was going to force religious institutions to marry same-sex couples.

This issue is not about numbers. It's about principles.

Even if there was only one same-sex couple in the whole of the UK and everyone else opposed their right to get married, that one couple would still be entitled to equal human rights.

Majorities, no matter how large or loud, do not have a right to ride roughshod over minorities. Human rights, including the right to get married, trump all other considerations.

In a free society, people of faith are entitled to believe that homosexuality is wrong and to not marry a person of the same-sex. However, they are not entitled to demand that their particular interpretation of holy text is enshrined as the law of the land and imposed on everyone else.

One of the litmus tests of a democracy is respect for the human rights of minorities. LGBT people are a minority but minority status is not a rational or moral reason to discriminate against them - or against anyone else.

Accordingly, we support full equality, not mere LGBT equality, and urge the government to legalise:

  • Same-sex civil marriages

  • Opposite-sex civil partnerships

  • Religious same-sex marriages by clergy who wish to conduct them.

  • In a democracy, it is very important that there is equality for all, including for LGBT couples who wish to get married, for heterosexual couples who want a civil partnership and for same-sex couples who'd like a religious marriage.


All needless, unjustified restrictions should be repealed. The state should not impede individual choice. It should empower couples to make the choice that is right for them.

The UK's current twin legal bans on same-sex civil marriages and opposite-sex civil partnerships are unjust discrimination. Equality in law is a fundamental principle of a democratic society.

Heterosexual civil partnerships

Equally as important as legalising same-sex marriages is the legalisation of opposite-sex civil partnerships. Equal human rights should be applied universally and without bias. Heterosexual equality is just as important as LGBT equality.

We are disappointed that the government has, thus far, not agreed to lift the ban on opposite-sex civil partnerships. It is our hope that as a result of this and similar submissions you will reconsider and embrace the principle of equal rights for all.

Under the government's plans to legalise same-sex marriage, but not opposite-sex civil partnerships, LGBT couples will end up with two options: a civil marriage or a civil partnership; whereas straight couples will have only one option: marriage. This is unfair and discriminatory.

From talking to people all over the country, we have amassed considerable evidence that a sizeable number of heterosexual couples would prefer a civil partnership. Some dislike the sexist, patriarchal history of marriage. They regard civil partnerships as more modern and egalitarian.

If this is the way they feel, the law has no legitimate grounds for impeding their wishes. They should be given a choice: a civil marriage or a civil partnership, identical to what the government proposes to offer same-sex couples.

Regardless of the number of straight people who would like a civil partnership - whether it is large or small - the fundamental issue is that the law should treat everyone equally.
Heterosexual couples should be able to have a civil partnership if they wish. Let them decide, not the state.

For the last decade, the Netherlands has had both civil marriages and civil partnerships open and available to all couples, regardless of sexual orientation. Two-thirds of Dutch civil partnerships are now between straight men and women.

We believe there would be a similar take-up of civil partnerships by heterosexual couples in the UK if the current ban was lifted.

For all these reasons, we urge that both civil marriages and civil partnerships should be accessible to gay, bisexual and heterosexual couples, with no discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Religious same-sex marriages

We very much regret the government's apparent intention to maintain the ban on religious same-sex marriages in all circumstances, even if people of faith want to conduct them.

This is not only homophobic discrimination against religious LGBT couples, it is also an attack on religious freedom. We urge the government to think again on this issue and to legislate fully for LGBT equality and religious autonomy.

In contrast to many other organisations, we go beyond urging that religious same-sex marriages should be permissible for faith organisations that wish to conduct them.

It is our contention that any individual minister of religion licensed to conduct marriages should be free to perform a same-sex marriage in their place of worship, if they wish to do so.

The license to conduct marriages is conferred on individual clergy and therefore the decision to conduct same-sex marriages should rest with him or her - not with the leadership of their faith organisation.

Allowing faith bodies to veto the conscience of individual clergy is wrong. It confers unjustified power on religious hierarchies to the exclusion of the individual minister of religion who holds the license to conduct marriages. It usurps his or her moral judgement.

This is why we urge the government to legalise religious same-sex marriages for licensed minsters of religion who want to perform them.

In addition to the aforementioned points, we urge:

  • Civil partnerships should be retained for LGBT and straight couples who want an alternative to marriage.

  • Existing civil partners should be given the option to convert their civil partnership into a civil marriage, with a special ceremony if they desire this.

  • Married transgender people should not be required to divorce their spouse before they can receive a gender recognition certificate.

  • Thank you for giving consideration to our submission.


Yours for equal rights for all,

Peter Tatchell
Director, Peter Tatchell Foundation

www.PeterTatchellFoundation.org

 
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20:13 on 17/06/2012
Quote :

" This issue is not about numbers. It's about principles "

Is not democracy all about numbers ?

It is stupid to change the definition of Marriage, it has given the Government the clever idea to change the definition of other things such as " poverty " .. by changing the definition of poverty thousands will nolonger be considered to be living in poverty just because the definition has been changed, is this a good thing ???? NNNNOOOOOOOOO

Also if we are talking about definitions the definitions of " perversion " are these :

" To use something for something other than what they were invented for "
And
" To gain sexual arousal from something not considered normal "

Homosexuality fits both these definitions, sex organs have a purpose and that is to reproduce, so sex acts that do not lead to atleast a chance of reproduction is a perversion.
Seeing as the sexdrive is to reproduce then men should gain arousal from women and women from men, therefore this definition fits too.

What shall we do now ??.. Change the definition of " perversion " ????
19:49 on 17/06/2012
Denmark also promised not to force Churches to conduct Same Sex Marriage, however when Same Sex Marriage was introduced the Church got taken to Court where they were " ordered by equlity laws to conduct Same Sex Marriage "... Some people just want to inflict their beliefs on others, and the more " liberal " they are the more the PC bragade jump on it.
The author of this article should not be given media time, he can be found at demo's asking for the age of sexual consent to be abolished holding signs that read " not all sex with children is unwanted ".... I think that tells us all we need to know about him.
There is a name for " sex with children that is not unwanted ".. it is called " Grooming ".
14:21 on 17/06/2012
I will like to start by saying I signed the petition against Same-Sex Marriage and it was not because I wrongfully believed that Churches would be forced to conduct them, I signed because Civil Partnerships already give the same legal recognition as Marriage, so homosexuals have the same rights ( legally ) already.
To change the definition of Marriage from :

" A union between a Man and a Woman "

to :

: A union between two people "

Where will it end ??.. Will we have people demanding their right to marry more than one person ?

There is no need to change the definition of marriage when the homosexual community already have an equal version in the Civil Partnership.
It reminds me of Mony Pythons Life Of Brian where a man wants his right to have babies and when told that he doesnt have a womb the man replies " dont you oppress me " !!!!
01:01 on 16/06/2012
This issue has run its course. The present government has no mandate for this and in any case would not get one if it tried, the situation is satisfactory as it stands. There are far far more important matters to attend to which our politicos need to concentrate on. Why cannot people get on with their lives without demanding this right and that right. Is it no wonder that society and family are falling apart.
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12:30 on 16/06/2012
" Why cannot people get on with their lives without demanding this right and that right.It is no wonder that society and family are falling apart."

Ha! Don't you see it,Marcus11?
Society is falling apart largely through the very fact of such inequalities. Where's Cameron's "Big Society" ( part of his Stand Up routine ) to come from when people are so discriminated? Where's the necessary social cohesion when so many - and am talking not only of the above - are marginalised and made to feel less important to that society than others?
And your saying "the situation is satisfactory as it stands", when clearly it isn't for so many merely illustrates your last sentence.
14:49 on 16/06/2012
If I agreed with you,we'd both be wrong
14:53 on 15/06/2012
Well at lest this proves the falsehood the claims that only civil marriages are required and not religous ones. And to make a complete joke of it, he wants choices between civil unions and marriages. What a joke.
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16:43 on 15/06/2012
Let me try to explain this for you very simply Gearoid:

Some churches have already made it clear that they want to perform gay marriages. If churches want to perform gay marriages they should have that option.

If churches don't want to they should have that option.

Similarly, if gay couples want to marry in a church that wants to marry them, they should have that option.

If straight couples want a civil partnership they should have that option.

What is it about equality that you find so funny?
14:48 on 15/06/2012
it wasn't that long ago that people owned other people, and abolition thereof was met with equal resistance. For those that quote the bible, there are 673 prohibitions, and they carry the same degree of guilt. Not eating pork or shell fish, being near a woman who is menstruating, observing sabbath (saturday), adultery, stealing, lying, eating only the upper half of an animal that is clean, giving the land a sabbatical, and on that year, picking only the fruit that falls, allowing anyone to harvest it with no renumeration, excessive drinking, forgiveness of debts, blending fabrics, cultivating different species of plants together, cursing, and on and on.... there is a prohibition on evil speech, creation begins with giving breath to words. if one quotes jesus, he never spoke against it... we best focus on real issues of procreation: that for humans is a privilege, not a right, we are merely hosts, taking charge of the evolution of a soul; economics: children from an early age should be taught the value of work, and money...the wisdom to use it properly. God never cursed Adam, he cursed the world around him. now it will resist him, confuse him at every turn. we focus on the world's obstacles, rather than live our true nature. Evil is defined as the distance between ourselves and God. We choose to, or cause further descent, or as beings of pure love, animated by the emanation of His, rise closer. Let love be.
11:17 on 15/06/2012
I say put Peter Tatchell in a room with all the religious group leaders. Last one standing gets to set out the law :)
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16:57 on 15/06/2012
Would you have set slave traders on William Wilberforce? Or misogynists on the Pankhursts?

And just so as you know, many religious leaders would happily let Tatchell have his way.
09:54 on 18/06/2012
I wouldn't have set them on each other, I'd have brought them together and locked them away until they could actually work something out rather than all consistantly moan about it. I'm betting Peter Tatchell would run circles round them with their own beliefs and ideals and beat them into submission that way.


Yes of course. Just not the ones that are in charge of the 'state' church of the UK and who moan about everything (it's either God's will that change is coming or it's human's freedom choosing in which case it's going to happen so stop moaning). Threaten to take away their charity status and see how quickly they'd change their point of view.