Nadine Dorries: MPs Overwhelmingly Reject Abortion Law Amendment

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The Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 07/09/11 16:17 Updated: 07/11/11 10:12

MPs have voted against proposals to change the law governing advice given to women seeking abortion.

Conservative MP Nadine Dorries had tabled an amendment to the Health and Social Care Bill that would have banned organisations that carry out abortions, such as Marie Stopes, from offering counselling.

Dorries has argued that because they receive money for carrying out terminations, the organisations have a vested interest.

Critics of the Mid Bedfordshire MPs amendment warned that it would open up the way for religious groups with an anti-abortion agenda to get involved.

MPs were given a "free vote" on the amendment on Wednesday. They voted against change by 118 to 368 - a majority of 250 votes.

But despite the defeat Dorries claimed victory. She told the BBC that a "massive spotlight" had been shone on the abortion "industry".

"It has been a most tremendous success. We've lost the battle but we've won the war," she said.

"The government have opened up a consultation, they are going to take the spirit of my amendments and introduce new secondary legislation."

She added: "The abortion industry has functioned for 47 years without any study or examination of its practices."

During the debate on the bill, health minister Anne Milton had told MPs that the government intended to launch a consultation on abortion counselling.

Dorries had pressed David Cameron on the issue during prime minister's questions earlier in the day, accusing the Tory leader of bowing to Liberal Democrat demands. She even urged him to show Nick Clegg "who's the boss".

But the Commons descended into laughter after Cameron replied: "I know the honourable lady is extremely frustrated".

The outspoken MP had strained her relationship with Downing Street even further in recent days after she branded the prime minister "gutless" for refusing to support her amendment.

Dorries also told the Commons that Clegg had forced Cameron to change his mind on her amendment after coming under pressure from campaigning former Lib Dem MP Evan Harris.

"Basically the Liberal Democrats, in fact a former MP who lost his seat in this place, is blackmailing our prime minister," she said.

Cameron did not vote on the amendment himself as he had a meeting with the president of the European Union, Herman Van Rompuy.

But while health ministers said they would vote against the change three cabinet ministers did vote with Dorries.

Defence secretary Liam Fox, work and pensions secretary Ian Duncan Smith and Northern Ireland secretary Owen Patterson are all said to have voted in favour of the amendment.

Labour's deputy leader Harriet Harman said vote sent a "strong message that the work of Marie Stopes, the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, and others is valued."

While the majority of Labour and Lib Dem MPs who voted opposed the amendment, the vote was not split entirely down party lines.

Labour MPs Keith Vaz, Stephen Pound and Gavin Shuker voted with Dorries. As did Lib Dems Greg Mullholland, Alan Beith and Gordon Birtwistle.

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ThankGodhesgone
Always Progressive and loving the CONs meltdown.
05:34 on 12/09/2011
Good grief. You have Tea Baggers, too?
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whoknew42
Credulity is not a virtue
20:05 on 11/09/2011
Haven't you guys been down this road before with religious fanatics?
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reasonshouldrule
03:17 on 11/09/2011
I found it quite amusing that this Dorries woman claimed victory in this defeat of her amendment. One has to wonder if she has been hanging out in the U.S. lately and getting advice from our tea party people on how to fool a lot of people into thinking she's all there.

Happy to read that this kind of thing doesn't fool the Brits like it does us Americans.
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Ithaqua
00:04 on 09/09/2011
Ive requested information on why my post was deleted.

I did say only a politician could lose so badly and declare it a victory.

And I also wondered if anyone would ask her what happened to her 90% backing she claimed she had.

Lets see if this post is deleted with no reason given
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
08:56 on 09/09/2011
It seems that the moderator doesn't like people describing Dorries as missing any spoons from her cutlery drawer.

Which given the woman is clearly nothing but bat guano above the neck is a bit odd.
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Ithaqua
14:57 on 10/09/2011
f + f
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reasonshouldrule
03:17 on 11/09/2011
LOL! Faved. (already a fan)
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12:53 on 09/09/2011
Congratulations: you are still here. I sometimes wonder whether it depends on staff shifts -- they're only human, I suppose, so what one may find offensive, another will let through. On the other hand, it might be a purely technical glitch. You could always try again.
I, too, am astonished that she would claim so much support. Her "christian" credentials are sure to make many in the UK electorate squirm a little (remember the fuss and attempts to play it down when Tony found G'd?)
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Ithaqua
15:00 on 10/09/2011
I have noticed on one or two posts people dare them to remove the post again.

Sad that it comes to that.

Certainly appears that the guidlines the moderators follow are very loose.
Personally I'd have them operate in pairs and both have to agree before removing a post. If they cant agree it would be referrred to a comittee for final decision.
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nete peedham
14:00 on 08/09/2011
Nadine Dorries has all the qualifications to be a conservative MP...she's so...blonde!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
18:15 on 11/09/2011
But it looks like she has socialist roots.
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Marchmont
13:43 on 08/09/2011
The campaign to put abortion counselling in the hands of faith-based groups sounds so caring but it is a mendacious campaign to provide misinformation to vulnerable women. The amendment proposed by Nadine Dorries expressly removes the right of organisations such as Marie Stopes and the British Pregnancy Advisory Service to impart information. The second amendment looks equally innocuous but seeks to remove responsibility for abortion guidelines from the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Dorries risibly claims to be pro-choice but she clearly aims to bring down the time limit and these amendments, delaying the whole process, will suit her hidden agenda. This is one of the most despicable political ploys in recent years and will simply increase the number of desperate single mothers and gangs of feral children.
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14:32 on 08/09/2011
... faved... except maybe for the "gangs of feral children" bit -- though judging by your name, you are probably just tired of the wee numpties that throw the seagulls their leftover chips at lunchtime ;-)
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Lawyer13
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05:04 on 08/09/2011
Counselling is a choice to be made by the person seeking to have an abortion, it seems to me that provided it is offered that is sufficient.
01:27 on 08/09/2011
I'll be back
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00:24 on 08/09/2011
This kind of stuff just doesn't fly in the UK.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:45 on 08/09/2011
Let's hope people stay vigilant: keep the chocks on and a truck parked on the runway.
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13:45 on 08/09/2011
I certainly hope not. But the very fact that she managed to get elected to political office has got to make you wonder. Puts a whole new slant on the old Campari ad "Have you just wafted in from Paradise?" / "Nah -- Luton Airport".
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BeeJayCeee
I still loathe Thatcher
22:49 on 07/09/2011
Keep religious loonies out of politics.
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mediumal57
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00:47 on 08/09/2011
I agree: ALL "religious loonies" should be barred from politics - From Imams to Priests; Evengelists to Preachers, Mystic Meg Atrologers to Seventh Day Eventists; Creationists to followers of the Reverend Moon and any other whako nonsense like Scientology, Spirituality, and the many other kinds of pseudo-scientific bull that pollutes the mind and attacks rationality. It all should be kept well away from the political arena. Mind you. There won't be many of us left.
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BeeJayCeee
I still loathe Thatcher
00:54 on 08/09/2011
There should be a test. If they can provide unequivocal, objective, physical evidence for their beliefs, then fine, go right in! Otherwise, computer says no!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
11:17 on 08/09/2011
Or we could set up a ministry of magic - harry-potter themed; there's the potential for extra tourist money in it.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
21:20 on 07/09/2011
Poor Nadine and Yaliand. 

On the good side, you both made a lot of money.

The bad side is someday a donor is going to come looking for a refund.

Keep 'pay to play' politics out of abortion.
20:54 on 07/09/2011
Dorries, proof that right-wing loonie ladies are not just confined to US politics, mind you she considers Bachman & Palin as role models plainly.
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rambot02
A modest proposal...
22:23 on 07/09/2011
Gak! You're going to make Tabby Cat hurl a fur ball.

=^. .^=
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
23:16 on 07/09/2011
Looks like she aspires to be able to afford their plastic surgery.
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
19:57 on 07/09/2011
I too share your revulsion for this odious trout. What I'm more concerned about is that she GOT ELECTED !!!!! Personally , I would love to know the average IQ of her constituency.
And her excuses, Clegg robbed me by refusing to support Cameron. roflmfao. I don't think so. That would be like Blair/Thatcher asking their cabinet, unheard of & and frankly unbelievable.
No, Nadine , you were a stalking horse, a diversion if you will. so the NHS reform bill could go through unopposed. I only hope the Lords will kill it.
21:50 on 07/09/2011
Mid-Bedfordshire is a very safe Conservative seat, unless voters there have a very good reason not to vote Conservative. I suspect most voters there didn't realise Dorries' beliefs on these issues, and after this, she could be de-selected by her party, or voted out.
There are good reasons for asking why the local Conservative Party selected her to be their candidate in the first place, But having checked Wikipedia, it seems the national party put them under pressure to select a woman candidate, as the party was under pressure at the time regarding the lack of women MPs in safe Conservative seats. Apparently she was the best of the women potential candidates (which doesn't say much for the others), and the fact that Dorries is a relatively working class Conservative was considered a plus for the area, many of which formerly lived and still work in Luton/Dunstable.

Just to be clear, I think she's odious too, and am just trying to give some local knowledge as I lived in Bedfordshire for most of my life, although not now.
22:42 on 07/09/2011
thanks.....
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Tim Haselden
An Enemy of Rupert Murdoch, since 1984.
23:22 on 07/09/2011
Thanks also, I just wondered, she seems to be more like an american teaparty candidate, than your average tory.party candidate.
18:59 on 07/09/2011
"We've lost the battle but we've lost the war."

I lol'd. Just keep telling yourself that, maybe some day you'll realise how ignorant you are.