Immigration: Capping Numbers Will Damage Businesses, LCCI Says

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Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 07/12/11 07:30 Updated: 07/12/11 08:52

The London economy is far more reliant on overseas workers than many in government think, according to a report by the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry (LCCI).

The government has proposed strict caps on non-EU migrants into the UK, with assessments largely based on financial criteria.

But the LCCI in its report published on Wednesday, said foreign workers are "essential" to the capital's businesses and that migration reforms are already causing damage to businesses.

"We fully understand the political and social pressures placed on the government to reduce net migration, but our report shows that by preventing UK businesses from accessing the best global talent these pressures will be made worse not better," Colin Stanbridge, LCCI's chief executive said.

"The best way to provide long-term, sustainable employment opportunities for British workers is by ensuring that our firms are able to grow, but our research shows that the government's reforms are already stifling the growth of some companies."

More than 60% of businesses employ, or have considered hiring, non-EU migrant workers, the study found. Small businesses were almost as likely as larger ones to do so, according to the LCCI. Many thought that hiring foreign staff would open up export opportunities in new markets.

30% of employers looked outside of the EU for staff due to a a lack of skills in the domestic market, the study found.

Nearly a quarter of companies reported that the government's changes, introduced in April, have already made it difficult to hire. The same amount said that they would rather not hire at all than pick up an EU national or UK worker without the right skills.

In November, a group of leading academics branded the government's caps on non-EU immigration "anti-growth".

In a statement accompanying the report's release, George Kessler, deputy chairman of retail services group Kesslers International, said: "I travel regularly to China and Hong Kong and am horrified by the effect  the government's legislation is having on the perception of the UK, which is no longer seen as an open country to do business. Several of my partner companies are now looking to other European countries for their European office locations."

Immigration Minister Damian Green said: “Immigration to the UK has been too high, which is why we are tackling abuse and reforming all routes to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands.

"Every month since we introduced the limit the visas on offer have been under-subscribed, so not a single valuable worker has been prevented from coming here.

“We have already put in place measures to attract foreign investors and entrepreneurs, and have been in discussion with London businesses. It is essential businesses reduce their reliance on migrants and provide jobs and opportunities to resident workers."

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10:00 on 08/12/2011
They are moaning because they love paying appalling wages to immigrants rather than employing locals who won't work for slave labour wages. that is why Lincolnshire is full of dirt poor east europeans. Don't blame them, blame the rich, lazy tight wad farmers who won't pay a living wage to local workers. they are turning UK into a third world country and Dave is doing nothing about it because they are his voters.
20:20 on 07/12/2011
Interesting! Hardly any immigrant has posted a reply! Why? Because they are at work; not uneducated ones who are claiming dole and browsing the net aimlessly. It is worthwhile to be of use to the society. By the way, I just got back from my work and am off, will not be reading any more of these nasty comments!
19:25 on 07/12/2011
It is hard but truth have to be spoken? Yes professionals are coming and they paying all the tax in the world, Yes they were born in foreign land, they took nothing from childhood to that degree they hold but it is they taking jobs, which could have been got native population.

There are nations with huge population and many millions wants to leave? Almost over 500 millions wanted to come to west from third world so they all are professionals so the question is now, if they continue to come then there would all professionals in the country so native would be just lowest class in job market so it have to STOP from one point so this is the time to say BACK OFF AND SERVE YOUR OWN NATION THEY NEED YOU, YOU DR's, BANKER,s and all the so called professionals so it is time government know this truth, which been written here. HELLO WE ARE 500 MILLIONS PROFESSIONALS WANTS TO COME TO EU SO HOLD JOBS ONLY FOR US AND LET YOUR POPULATION JUST SERVE US LIKE SERVENT AND LET THEM REMAIN LOW CLASS WORKERS AND LET THEM JUST CLAIM BENEFIT BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO COME.
19:16 on 07/12/2011
Why past or present government cannot train native population for the economy market and train native population in every single field like none EU doing it. Make native population jobless, pay them benefit and make useless then force them to live on dole. At the same time give jobs to none EU so extra benefit had to be paid to native population and their family members.

What kind of policy is this and who cares if this continue so it is like 3 millions wasted population live in UK and 4 millions newly arrived immigration have taken jobs from native population. What possible native do if there or was no policy to make native live according to the government policy. If you make people depend on something and never show the way to live and survive then blame them for something they never did.

Blame them for all downfall in the society yet government claim they doing all they can to bring jobs but at the same time bring millions into the country then make native jobless in theirs millions? I wonder what would i do if i loose job at the age of 50 and training after loosing the job then try to fit with young population, it is almost impossible to think what life would be but i know many of i know living such life. employers are saying do as we say or we live?
22:47 on 07/12/2011
I'm with you godchild. The government should take ultimate responsibility for training up the local workforce and providing businesses with incentives for recruiting from the local population.

However, there's only so much it can do, because if it costs more to train up a local than to outsource, most big companies will opt for the later. Just think about all the call centre jobs (BT, Virgin, Sky, etc) that have been moved to India/Phillippines in the past few years.

It started with manufacturing being relocated to China, now large numbers of IT jobs and even back office banking jobs are being sent offshore. Worst of all, these trends are going to continue if the UK workforce do not accept a squeeze on their pay and/or become more competitive (sad but true).

Therefore, if the UK stops allowing in skilled professionals, these big businesses that pay gigantuan amounts in corporate & payroll taxes to the goverment to fund welfare services may simply relocate their operations to more cost effective and immigration friendly locations.

Frankly, I can't see a way out of this, the world is changing, so should we, it's wiser to spend time adapting instead of moaning. We need an immigration policy that balance both economic and social needs, simply shutting the door is not the most sensible solution.
18:22 on 07/12/2011
Please note this article is about NON-EU immigrants.

99% of non-EU immigrants arrive to do skilled jobs while paying more taxes to reduce the government's deficits/debts, for example, engineers, accountants, doctors, etc. Non-EU immigrants are not given any benefits/credits, they are net contributors to the economy.

Those who are claiming excessive benefits and stealing jobs away from working class Brits are immigrants from the EU (Poland, Spain, Bulgaria etc). These people are uncontrolled (even by the Tories), unskilled and more likely to end up on the benefit system and committing crime.

The trend at the moment is that the number of non-EU migrants (those who pay £££ into the UK economy) is decreasing sharply thanks to the Tory policies. But the number of EU (benefit leeches and unskilled workers) are constantly on the rise. Look out for the tsunami of unskilled Muslim workers from Turkey soon once Turkey joines EU.

The government is unable to do anything with EU migrants because UK is a part of the EU, so you can expect to continue being served by Spanish/Polish at coffee shops. Unemployment and welfare deficit will NOT be fundmentally solved until UK leaves the EU (So the number of Poles can be controlled.)

Sad times, but please everyone get the facts straight before commenting.
18:27 on 07/12/2011
all immigrants are immigrants aren't they we have to start some where
18:36 on 07/12/2011
True, but at a time of crisis and unprecedented deficits like this, we need people who can pay into the economy while not getting benefits (most non-EU migrants), not those who come over and be immediately entitled to benefits even without a job (EU migrants).

We MUST Control EU migrants, they are not gonna stop coming. Even if the UK's minimum wage halves, it's still 10 times more than what they can earn in Poland. Plus we given them benefits which they can't even dream of in all former Soviet states. They have no reason to stop coming!!
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16:34 on 07/12/2011
And Father Christmas is real. The report from LCCI only seem to be looking at skilled workers. Fair enough if they have goods skills where there is a shortage, but what about the other 20 million scrounging wasters that are only here for the government handouts?
16:34 on 07/12/2011
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15:50 on 07/12/2011
So many posts removed why do we bother posting on these crap boards???
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rabidrightwatch
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15:19 on 07/12/2011
My previous comment raised blood pressure & eyebrows, and was removed:

I'm British, I have an import/export company with translation services, based in three locations in the UK and six locations in fellow-EU countries.
I employ 3200 staff with a register of 5000 freelancers.

We receive around 40 applications a day.
We have a filter system to pre-select for interview, as every other company does, so I feel reasonably qualified to comment.

Increasingly, we're finding it difficult to employ suitably qualified staff with good inter-personal skills with proper language skills, who can stay the course and contribute to the business.

Although I would rather employ people from this country, I find it increasingly difficult to find suitable employees, and have to resort to widening my search to other EU member states.

At interview, the majority fail & we always select the best candidate for the vacancy, regardless of his/her country of origin.
We pay identical rates to women, men, disabled, and migrant workers from within the EU.

Parents and, in some instances, teachers/lecturers, are not adequately preparing this generation for the world of work and in some cases, really disadvantaging their suitability for a lifetime in the workplace.
Their competition are often better prepared, better suited for work and, in many instances, simply better educated.

It's not merely a numbers game, it's getting the right person at the right location at the right time.
16:07 on 07/12/2011
yours is a specialist field i would have thought you would have to find someone that left school with a and o levels and train them
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rabidrightwatch
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16:19 on 07/12/2011
...not really... skills I see are lamentably poor - remember the old business adage:

an English businessman, when abroad, speaks in every foreign language - by speaking English louder and louder until he's taken notice of...

Unfortunately, this is all too often the case...

O and A levels are useless in the professional world for the skills I seek... again 20 years of experience...
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16:44 on 07/12/2011
You say you have 3200 + employees , How come you have time to sit at a key board and post several coments on a small mediocre site like this ? Me ? I am retired
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rabidrightwatch
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17:31 on 07/12/2011
...I'm cunning like that - I have managers and supervisors; it's called delegation of responsibility...
..plenty of time waiting at airports and on trains to offer constructive comments on HP.. and I too am over the retirement age, but elect to continue working...
15:09 on 07/12/2011
There are 2 billion people living on less than $2 a day all around the world. Can they all come for a job?
15:07 on 07/12/2011
Business always wants cheaper labor........ They love immigrants and want to push the pay scale down..

Too many people and too few jobs..... immigration should be halted until the unemployment rate goes down. The people that are already here need jobs first.
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rabidrightwatch
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15:49 on 07/12/2011
not necessarily - business wants qualified labour..

BMW & Mercedes, for example, have very good rates of pay and much better working conditions than their counterparts in the UK/US, but strangely they make lots of money, despite treating their workforce with respect and paying them well.

Not a typical example, I grant you, but an example of businesses which value their staff who, despite the trend to the contrary, are cunningly good at making profits.
16:36 on 07/12/2011
have you seen the price of their cars
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16:46 on 07/12/2011
May be they also turn out a quality product
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18:44 on 07/12/2011
Too right.
14:20 on 07/12/2011
What a ridiculous story.
There isnt enough good workers within the EU so we have to hire non-EU, well im sorry, but maybe companies should be training the staff that they need.
Highly trained staff only become highly trained with experience, so how can these companies expect to get these staff if no-body will train them.
Then we get to the fact London reliese on thee non-EU people. My reply to that is, we have nearly 3 million un-eployed, if a job is available in the UK, it MUST go to people from the UK first, and only when everyone is in a job can a firm look outside the UK. And within that i mean no EU citizens either, never mind non-EU.
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18:45 on 07/12/2011
A good point. Our people come first.
14:12 on 07/12/2011
If the businesses cannot find the right level of skill required, then the business/es are too blame by not training or paying th rate which makes the business attractive.Education is blamed for the various black holes but a business , engineering / banking/ or others should be responsible for job skills.College/ university education cannot replace hands on. It is a get out by business not to cover training costs. ITB schemes were ripped apart and YTS replaced them by the Thatcher regime. A good training programme by any company was rewarded by grants by ITB and it could be a profitable reward. From craft -technician and graduate, the ITB catered for all. Secondary school leavers joined the schemes at highly qualified commerces and industries and via the training school /college qualified and attended universities. Unfortunately, in that period of the eighties, many firms could not kick the scheme out as fast as they could. Commercial/industry has never recovered that ground.

A recent World Championship found British firms scrounging around for equipment whilst many other countries gave their entrants all the help they needed.
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rabidrightwatch
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15:56 on 07/12/2011
you're putting the cart before the horse...

in order to be profitable, business must employ the best staff they can find... only after making a substantial profit can companies invest in training and apprenticeships...

...and it's not the fault of business; Thatcher and her cohorts made it almost impossible for manufacturing businesses to survive, let alone take on training commitments..

In the past 30 years, we've placed too much emphasis on service industries at the expense of manufacturing, and we can thank the Tories for that - and to their shame, successive Labour governments which merely continued the trend...
16:34 on 07/12/2011
but what you're saying is it's wrong they cap immigration because you need them if however they don't work out it's ok for the rest of us to pay benefits to them even though you invited them sorry to say i don't agree
14:11 on 07/12/2011
With a forcast of unemployment hitting 3m next year. Why oh why do we need more people entering the UK? Lets get our own house in order before encouraging more migration into the UK. Is there any sensible politician able to take a lead on this issue? Poverty in the UK is on the increase and with the threat of a dickensian britain looming we need a Keynesian individual to inject some statesmanlike/philosophical/economic intellect to the decay of UK PLC.