Immigration Has No Effect On Unemployment, Says Think Tank

The Huffington Post UK   Rizwan Syed First Posted: 10/01/2012 04:40 GMT Updated: 10/01/2012 04:40 GMT

Immigration has no impact on unemployment, according to research released on Tuesday by the National Institute for Economic and Social Research (NIESR). Their findings directly contradict claims made by Migration Watch UK on Monday, who suggested a "correlation" between Eastern European immigration and record levels of youth unemployment.

The NIESR claims to have used National Insurance number registrations by foreign nationals for the first time to analyse the impact of immigration on the UK labour market. Previously only Labour Force Survey data was normally used. The NIESR believes that when migration levels go up, the number of people looking for work goes down, but even then, the effect is negligible.

In detail; every percentage point increase in the migration rate is associated with a reduction in the claimant count rate of between 0.01% and 0.004% (depending on GDP growth rates). The claimant count rate released by the Office for National Statistics measures the number of people claiming unemployment-related benefits.

The report concludes: "For all practical purposes, these results suggest that migration has essentially no impact on claimant count unemployment."

However this data analysis would exclude those who had become economically inactive, including those who had given up searching for work and claiming Jobseekers' Allowance.

Meanwhile Migration Watch UK said on Monday that 600,000 more migrants are working in the UK since the so-called A8 countries ( Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) joined the EU in May 2004 - while youth unemployment had risen by 450,000 during the same time period.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migration Watch UK, said on Monday that "it is implausible and counter-intuitive to conclude - as the previous Government and some economists have done - that A8 migration has had virtually no impact on UK youth unemployment in this period”.

Youth unemployment in the UK is running at record levels, having increased from 575,000 in the first quarter of 2004 to 1,016,000 in the third quarter of 2011, figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show. Over the same period, the number of workers from the A8 grew by 600,000

On Sunday, the New Economics Foundation (NEF) think-tank, argued that if everyone worked fewer hours – say, 20 or so a week – there would be more jobs to go round, employees could spend more time with their families and energy-hungry excess consumption would be curbed.

Anna Coote, of NEF, said: "There's a great disequilibrium between people who have got too much paid work, and those who have got too little or none."

After reading the NIESR report, Sir Andrew Green said: "This study is of the aggregate effect on the labour market. It does not address youth unemployment."

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NOSHER
07:28 AM on 06/01/2012
they dont steal them , they are given them by greedy bosses and agencies all these agencies ahould be closed down they get payed more than the worker for just accepting a phone call, years ago i worked 2 weeks for an agency and recieved 6 pds an hour i worked 60 hours and the agency recieved 60 hrs at 7 pound s an hour so that was my last time i worked for an agency and they wonder why the english people wont work i went self employed and stayed that way till i retired and never looked back so lets get these agencies shut down
03:40 PM on 04/28/2012
albama unemployment dropped when the told the illegals to pack thier bags Of course they steal jobs
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Peter Leary
So long and thanks for all the fish.
12:24 PM on 06/06/2012
No one steals a job - they get it because they want it and can do it. These are not thieves, just people who want to live and be self-sufficient even at minimum wage, so please stop portraying them as malicious or criminal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik
01:43 PM on 03/11/2012
A skilled bricklayer that I know was sacked last year and his boss replaced him with a Polish worker.In theory this has no effect on the unemployment figures but that's little joy to a hard working man with a family and morgage to manage after being sacked for no fault of his own.
northern git
fed up with all the political crap in life
10:23 AM on 02/18/2012
they may not STEAL the jobs but they do fill them when Brits could

doing the job for cheapness and excess profit is a form of theft

As for think tank "there are none so blind as those that do not want to see"

mre over paid ostriches
08:17 PM on 02/15/2012
I don't think that the "Think Tank" has given this carefull thought.If the UK wasn't an open house there would not be so many foreigns in our job market
No wonder our unemployment is at at a all times high
06:04 PM on 01/14/2012
So in effect the commission is trying to convince people that the laws of supply and demand do not apply to labour...just everything else that exists....uh huh.

Granted the effects of immigration are complicated, and there will be many winners/losers no matter what policy is put in place, BUT eliminating it would result in a net benefit for the majority of Britons in the medium/long term, with the extra benefit of ensuring Britain remains our home, instead of other people (who are nothing like us no matter how much the bleeding hearts whine).
05:08 PM on 01/11/2012
AOL/Huff post has made a significant typo.

The headline says that the Arsenal goalie has made a "racist" quip (although quipping usually implies a bit of wit). The story though says that he said another football player looked "like a rapist".

Phew! It was only a rapist quip!

FFS, what on earth are they doing describing that as a "quip"?
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
03:44 PM on 01/11/2012
Nearly half of H1B visa holders from India: US report
PTI Jan 16, 2011, 12.07am ISTTags:work visa|united states|India|H-1B visa
WASHINGTON: Nearly half of H-1B work visa holders in the US were from India, who were mostly hired for technology-related positions, according to an official report.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) said that between 2000 and 2009, 46.9 per cent of the total approved H-1B visa holders had India as their country of birth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJBkO3PM14
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butterfly123
10:59 PM on 01/10/2012
Funny, I heard the update for the BBC news and it states the opposite, unfortunately I didn't get to see the news tonight.
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Fonsini
Let there be pie.
09:52 PM on 01/10/2012
Most likely too afraid of being charged with inciting race hatred if they made the opposite finding.

It really is fascinating watching the UK's death spiral, it's like some macabre Machiavellian play but on a national scale.

People in the US are now openly quoting the UK's current state as our likely future state "unless we act now". Did you guys know that your society is serving as a warning to others?
05:11 PM on 01/11/2012
Actually, we are learning from your society's death throes as you implode and turn on each other like rodents in a cage. Your competition to see who will face Obama thus autumn is most instructive.

"I'm more right wing than you are!"
"No you're not!"
"Bah! You're not even American!"
"The Muslims are coming! The Muslims are coming! Hide under your beds!"
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Fonsini
Let there be pie.
07:51 PM on 01/12/2012
And if that's what you think America is like then who am I to shake your tree. I have lived in both the UK and the USA, and there is no comparison, one is a socialist crap hole with uncontrolled immigration, sky high prices, a lazy cynical outlook on everything, and chronic over-crowding, and the other is the USA. To even try comparing the quality of life between the 2 is ridiculous, I dread my business trips over there, trult dread them.
06:32 PM on 01/12/2012
and your tent cities and people living in their cars aren't, is that the American dream then.
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Fonsini
Let there be pie.
07:57 PM on 01/12/2012
The USA doesn't carry the lazy or the under-achievers in our society. Success is available to everyone, and those who don't achieve almost exclusively have themselves to blame. In the UK you carry your loafers like some type of prized possession, pregnant teens get their own apartments courtesy of the council, people with non-existent or minor illnesses get free cars courtesy of schemes like Motability, immigrants get instant rights to social welfare payouts - all while the rest of you work to pay for it. Your socialist welfare state ensures that everyone shares in the misery. In America the opposite applies, you work for your own prosperity, not someone elses, and I have yet to see a tent city, but I have been on quite a few million dollar yachts and personal planes, never did know anyone in the UK that had either one.
04:52 PM on 01/10/2012
This tank don’t think, jobs are more difficult to find in this rescission like many I now temp it’s the only work open to me and I’ve not done that for four months. I have come across numerous people who have lost their jobs to lower paid longer hour working immigrants, logistics and construction is full of none British passport holders. The idea that they work harder than the indigenous population is faults, they know how to abuse the benefit system better the most. If business had to register all none British passport holders every six months with a fee of £100 each a balance would so be set.
03:51 PM on 01/10/2012
Too many people and too few jobs.......

It is not anti immigrant .... it is simple math.
03:24 PM on 01/10/2012
I'm an immigrant and I took someone's job. Why?
Because at an interview, 77 other Brits were people who didn't prepare for the interview same as me, and most thought just by sitting trough an univeristy is all the knowledge you ever need in life. On the other hand I read everything I could about the place I applied for, spent days and nights studying up for what's required for the role, and don't spend a day in life without learning something new that will bring me forward in the world.

Is this because British people are lazy? No. It's because it's like this anywhere in the world - you got your lazy ones who just wanna coast trough life, and you got your go getters.

So the coasters like to complain about everything that doesn't fit withing their idle idea of life and world around them. Oh how sad for them.

btw I dont have any education. Got here 13 years ago and learnt everything via Google. Im a computer programmer and I continue to learn about that and everything else I can for free.
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butterfly123
04:22 PM on 01/10/2012
How do you know that the other 77 other people didn't prepare? Could it possibly be because you agreed to a lower wage to what was being offered?
10:38 AM on 01/11/2012
1. Because my boss told me afterwards what other candidates were like. Also after being there for 2 years, I did some interviews when we were hiring another person to fill a similar role. Man, it was comedy. In the end we hired this Iraqi guy coz he was the only one who knew what a motherboard was.

2. It was for a job of an IT junior assistant in a High School, since when do public institutions accept workers that are ready to work for a lower pay?

And no I didn't offer to work for a lower pay, nor they offered me the job with a lower pay.

What a sad, petty comment you made.
04:45 PM on 01/10/2012
"Kalinic" Well done you !!! well done ! British people like to moan about anything and everything, be it in this country or when they are on holiday abroad,moan moan moan !! I hope you strive with sucess in your job and life and show everyone what can be done IF you try hard enough..
11:33 AM on 01/11/2012
Thanks Peter. I don't even think it's about trying harder, perhaps it's about being smarter.
People who don't accept that learning things yourself and lifelong learning are a fact of modern life will be the ones who always complain due to their ignorance.
03:00 PM on 05/01/2012
I hope you will say the same to an english person who has worked hard, of which I know plenty. you must stop surrounding yourself with people that moan that is your problem.
03:10 PM on 01/10/2012
immigration is putting a big strain on this country,s finances; including: health service, education, jobs and housing.Dont listen to the politicians-they are only interested in the european votes and their own pockets.The immigrants are slowly sapping the life force from England. They take more from us to send home to their own countries than they put back into our system.They may live 5 to a house-camped out in sleeping bags and on scattered matresses to rake as much of our money and benefits in as possible.What ever happened to an Englishman being paid a good salary for a good days work......CHEAP LABOUR.
05:18 PM on 01/11/2012
"Th­e immigrants are slowly sapping the life force from England"

The Force is weak with this one, Master Yoda.

mmm. much fear there is. Fear leads to hatred. Hatred to the Dark Side
03:02 PM on 05/01/2012
what you on about, me thinks too much tv
02:32 PM on 01/10/2012
Our own youngsters have largely made themselves unemployable with a perception of shallowness, no work ethic, Tats, Piercings and an inappropriate dress code. Couple this to a disastrous education in non subjects and an inability to speak coherently in a manor understood easily by anyone in the English speaking world and the young, white, Christian European gets a huge leg up in the job market.

Problem is, we are grossly overcrowded and would have no hope of feeding our own in times of crisis. We do not need more housing but less people.
The Children's Allowance was an aid to boost population after the war. Why do we still have such nonsense.
Henry VIII had 8m, Charles II 6m.

As an aside.
Relating to Fred the Shred.
If you endanger a major financial institution, surely you endanger the realm.
I always believed Endangerment of the Realm was Treason and thus still punishable by death!

Rgds.
10:18 PM on 01/12/2012
A friend of mines son is waiting to go to Uni, and tried to get a job locally to put some cash aside for when he starts. He did a C.V. and posted it into various pubs, cafes etc, as he didnt want a permanent job, but catering is usually more casual.
He saw a pub that he had sent his C.V with a vacancies sign in the window, so he went in to ask if there was a reason they had not contacted him. The Manager told him that he was in the process of doing just that, and would he like to start, and when. He also told Jack that the usual method of job seeking was a scruffy head with unshaven face peering round the pub door, and a mumbled, "Got any jobs?". When told there wasnt a job, scruff would grunt, sometimes profanely, and withdraw. No doubt he and many others like him will swear blind they have been seeking work, knowing they have no chance of being employed.