Scottish Independence: Alastair Darling Warns Scotland's Economy Would Take A Battering

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First Posted: 15/01/12 08:35 GMT Updated: 15/01/12 08:35 GMT   PA

Former chancellor Alistair Darling has warned of the "immense" economic difficulties Scotland would face if it voted for independence.

The Scottish MP for Edinburgh South West said the risks would be "amazing" and not worth gambling on.
Mr Darling has emerged as a leading candidate to head the pro-Union campaign but, in an interview with The Observer, said he was not interested in taking on such a role.

However, he delivered a powerful rebuttal of the arguments advanced by the Scottish National Party administration at Holyrood for independence.

"The downsides are immense, the risks are amazing, the uncertainties I just don't think are worth gambling on," he said.
"There are times when you should gamble and there are times when you shouldn't."

Mr Darling, who was chancellor under Gordon Brown during the 2008 banking meltdown, said a newly-independent Scotland would face deep economic uncertainty against a backdrop of continued global turmoil.

He said that if Scotland retained sterling it would remain tied to England and Wales and face similar challenges to the eurozone now, which lacks formal political union.

"If you have a single currency area you come back to having an economic if not a political union," he said.

"So you go through all the trauma and expense of leaving the Union, only to come back and discover that because you want to be part of this common currency you are back to where you were. I just don't see the sense of that."

Leaving sterling and joining the euro would not give Edinburgh independence, he said, as it would still not set its own interest rates and would be more beholden to Brussels.

And he said that for Scotland to set up its own currency would be a huge gamble.

"You would be a brave country indeed to say, 'here is our new currency, we are not actually sure how much it is going to be worth after the first day's trading'," he said.

"It would be one hell of a risk."

Mr Darling urged the Treasury to publish its assessments of the economic impact of the break-up of the Union. But he said he would not lead the No vote in the planned referendum.

"I will play my part, certainly, but I don't want to do that. I am too busy as a Westminster MP. This campaign has to be run in Scotland," he said.

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Vapula
Failure is not an option
03:01 AM on 01/16/2012
The Scot dannae need to worry. They will have darling and the rest of the Whitehall Scots to sort the mess out. Independence for England should be our aim.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
04:16 PM on 01/20/2012
I agree with you as regards independence for England, but can you not keep all the anti-Scottish Labour members? They all want to be Englsih! Honest!
LoveAfrica
Knowledge is Power & the Truth shall set you Free
01:10 AM on 01/16/2012
David Cameron and the Scottish Conservatives worked closely with the SNP to destroy Labour in Scotland . Blame David Cameron for helping the SNP get into power, thereby destroying the Union.

Typical Tory. Say one thing do another with the discredited media covering for them.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
04:17 PM on 01/20/2012
You really don't have a clue, do you?
09:28 PM on 01/15/2012
I have lots of English friends and relatives, why is it we can discuss these matters in a mature way but here on huff, some of the comments are vile and filled with hate. Its the politicians that have divided our nation, lets hit back at them and not each other, we should embrace each other and not be used as cannon fodder by the lords and the wealthy, lets stick together for a more fair and just society.
12:09 AM on 01/16/2012
ROBROY21 Would you like the world to see the comments you give me ?
01:29 PM on 01/16/2012
Yes Please I Would Like To See Them
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Allyb999
08:11 PM on 01/15/2012
Can Huff Post please explain why some of my perfectly valid points are getting whilst clearly anti scottish remarks are being left posted?
07:52 PM on 01/15/2012
lets get rid of them it will mean never again a labiur government so not only do we lose them but all they offer us is the read home and whiskyo they offer us nothing except the road home and whisky
LoveAfrica
Knowledge is Power & the Truth shall set you Free
12:51 AM on 01/16/2012
You obviously have no idea of the suffering successive Tory governments have inflicted on the hard working Middle class of our country.

The Scottish government are better rulers to their citizens than our lot who are only interested in making the rich, richer.
06:58 PM on 01/15/2012
It is taking a battering because of his disastrous handling of the UK economy.
Darling is a unionist scaremongerer just doing his job of telling porkies!
LoveAfrica
Knowledge is Power & the Truth shall set you Free
12:52 AM on 01/16/2012
Darling is the biggest TRAITOR, worst even than the hardcore BLAIRITES in the Labour party.
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ideaville
I have sexdaily, I mean dyslexia, Danm!
06:19 PM on 01/15/2012
It's funny how all nationalists always want independence at some point in the future, never right now.
If there is to be a referendum in Scotland, it should be a Yes or No vote. If there is to be an option of "Devolution Max" which would impact us all, I think we should all have a vote. I think south of the border Scottish independence would be popular.
06:22 PM on 01/15/2012
I agree 100% Devo Max will effect all of Britain so a nationwide referendum must be held.
06:56 PM on 01/15/2012
Why? did you get a vote in the last Scottish referendum, the goons in the london parliment wont even let us vote on EU membership, a parliment for England is what you need in my opinion and an EU referendum.
07:12 PM on 01/15/2012
Here we go again. Look you're not going to get a say in Scotland's future either Independence or FFA, so why don't you stop howling at the moon and do something about a parliament for England.
Start an e petition asap.
09:20 PM on 01/15/2012
Funny how Scotland can't get a referendum without the dependent parties trying to rigit in their favour.
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11:40 PM on 01/15/2012
Rig how? It's simple, independence Yes or No?
06:05 PM on 01/15/2012
Westminster misleads public over cuts to disability benefits
06:15 PM on 01/15/2012
Really...OMG
05:24 PM on 01/15/2012
One other question for Alex why is it the two oil producing regions of scotland are not held by SNP simple they realise how derailed you are. Maybe they should go back to Denmark then the independance issue would go out the window along with you and your party.
05:34 PM on 01/15/2012
Is Aderdeen not something to do with oil? the SNP took all the seats there in the Scottish parliment did they not?
05:41 PM on 01/15/2012
Aberdeen only services it it dosen produce it
05:15 PM on 01/29/2012
It seems to me that the SNP would be incapable of making an attractive case for independence without asserting that the oil off the UK coast in the North Sea all belongs to Scotland. I personally disagree as to this claim, as the investment in oil fields was financed by UK taxpayers, and I believe it should be shared equitably - not on the basis of 80%+ going to Scotland. However, assuming that following independence the SNP successfully annexes the North Sea oil fields and revenues, and on the back of it manages to increase the personal wealth of Scots citizens, then presumably the effect on the remaining citizens of the rest of the UK would be to impoverish them. In that event, I can only foresee a future of increasing bitterness towards an independent Scotland from its neighbours, who under such circumstances would be likely to seek opportunities to 'get their own back' economically. Is this the future that the SNP envisage?
05:38 PM on 01/29/2012
Hi Napolean It was a form of reality to recieve your email, you are absolutley right in what you say. I am a born and bred shetlander albeit I now live in the south east of England. For Scotland to leave the union would create a abyss in the History of our country and even if they took all the oil they would run out very quickly and then berated in europe as a minor player. The SNP have ideas of Grandeur far above there station they formed in the North East Coast of Scotland with fisheries being there main agenda and they were against Europe in time this has changed and for all they have done some good they equally have done bad if this question on independance goes ahead it will be a very sad day for Scotland. I hope and pray there are enough sensible scots left to throw this out and shortly after the SNP as well.
regards
05:15 PM on 01/15/2012
In days of Financial Suffering what is the point in spending all this money on a SNP pipe dream cutting ties from the Union would bring scotland to it knees and maybe the majority would feel a major let down by the minority. Free prescriptions and no rates for small buisness is all well and good when it is being payed for by the rest of the UK when the rates trebile and prescriptions start costing a min £25.00 the popularity will wain lets hope the scottish people realise this before it is too late as for the euro it is going to die within 3 years with a forty year bankruptcy in the offing maybe Mr Salmond will just drop into obscurity before this happens as for the rest of his MSP they need some education.
05:32 PM on 01/15/2012
Despite all that you remain optimistic.
05:43 PM on 01/15/2012
Not so much optomistic more realistic
06:10 PM on 01/15/2012
Oh dear, we are not having an SNP pipe band as well are we ?
06:48 PM on 01/15/2012
Nah we're havin Morris dancers hangin by their Boll X from the Erskine Bridge instead, it was deemed to be of more entertainment value in a modern multi-cultural nation.
07:05 PM on 01/15/2012
With all the hot air alex could produce a band on his own, The pie eyed piper of holyrood
04:49 PM on 01/15/2012
Alastair Darling should know better. He knows how much scotland contributes. 32 million pounds a day. In oil revnue. Scotland could and should stand alone. The only country to have struck oil. And then got poorer
06:36 PM on 01/15/2012
UMMM I thought that North sea oil was for the benefit of Britain not just Scotland,,,or am i wrong ?
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06:52 PM on 01/15/2012
You're right... but after independence (allowing a YES vote) you would be wrong.
LoveAfrica
Knowledge is Power & the Truth shall set you Free
01:00 AM on 01/16/2012
Then why is it left out in the formula for the budget Scotland is allocated?
03:29 PM on 01/15/2012
Darling, that was unforgettable.
LoveAfrica
Knowledge is Power & the Truth shall set you Free
01:01 AM on 01/16/2012
Alister Darling is a TRAITOR to the Labour Party. If he was a man of honour, he would resign and join the the TORIES, along with the BLAIRITES.
02:58 PM on 01/15/2012
A simple "Yes" or "No" vote by Scotland is all that's needed - period.

Any other type of vote would just be a fudge for the years to come.
05:24 PM on 01/15/2012
Why? the vote for a devolution contained THREE questions - No change at all, Devolution with almost no powers devolved! OR devolution with income tax varying power of plus or minus 1p in the pound.

Strangely enough It was predicted at the time by warminsters lackeys that this would cause confusion, it did NOT and the people voted by majority for all that was on offer.

Why then would they not be able to grasp as adults the concept of a three way choice?

No change, Further powers devolved within the UK framework, or Full independance.

It seems straight forward to most i know but then Scots are not used to having any meaningfull say at all in their own future after all we are used to a dependancy culture, so im told by the media.
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06:50 PM on 01/15/2012
Personally I'm in favour of the straight forward YES/NO option, but there is a significant support for the so called devo-max possibility in Scotland. The potential for a fudge would seem to be there but there is going to have to be a serious and calmly rational debate for and against leaving it off the ballot. The possible pitfalls seem to outweigh any advantage as far as I can figure it out, but... the support for it remains and has to be at least given the consideration its apparent support would demand. Its a sticky one right enough.
07:21 PM on 01/15/2012
Full independance is my prefered outcome but failing that if we could at least get more power devolved it would be preferable to the current mess, though it is obvious that it would'nt solve all our issues it would at least help solve some of them and could work as a further stepping stone to full independance at a later date.
02:45 PM on 01/15/2012
Little Scotlanders,,population 5 million about the size of the population of Manchester,,yet these people call us little Englanders population 50 million...it beggers belief.
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04:34 PM on 01/15/2012
Little Englander is an epithet applied in criticisms of English people who are regarded as "xenophobic" and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being "ignorant" and boorish.

not my words. they are from wikipedia.....
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02:44 PM on 01/15/2012
Love how the politicians in London have only now woken up to this issue. They just look and sound like shrieking aristocrats being led away during the French revolution predicting doom because they are appointed by god and without them how could you mere mortals possibly do anything constructive.