Anthony Grainger Shooting: No Gun Found In Car Of Man Killed By Police

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First Posted: 6/03/2012 07:36 Updated: 6/03/2012 07:44   PA

No gun has been found in the car which was carrying a man who was shot dead by police.

Anthony Paul Grainger, from Bolton, died of a single gunshot wound to the chest after the car he was in was stopped in the village of Culcheth, Cheshire, in what police described as a "pre-planned operation".

An "initial visual search" inside the car failed to locate any weapons, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said.

The IPCC has also revealed that initial evidence suggests two police firearms were discharged during the incident on Saturday evening, though a full ballistic examination has yet to be undertaken on the recovered police weapons.

At this stage it is known that one round was discharged by an officer carrying a Heckler and Koch MP5 carbine and this passed through the car windscreen and struck Grainger, 36, while he was sat in the driver's seat of a red Audi car.

Two Hatton rounds were discharged into the car's tyres by an officer carrying a shotgun in order to disable the vehicle.

A CS canister was also deployed by hand into the vehicle by one of the firearms team.

An IPCC spokesman said: "Due to the presence of CS residue in the car a full forensic examination has not yet been conducted to establish whether there are any weapons in the car.

"This will take place in a controlled environment in the next few days.

"An initial visual search inside the Audi, and a search of the immediate vicinity of the car, has not located any weapons."

Initial statements have been taken from the officer who fired the fatal shot and the officer who was carrying the shotgun and the firearms team leader.

IPCC Commissioner Naseem Malik and the investigation team has met with Grainger's mother and partner to explain the role of the IPCC.

Malik said: "My thoughts are with Mr Grainger's family and friends at what must be an incredibly difficult time for them. Our investigation into the actions of the officers at the scene, the planning and implementation of the police operation and the reason for the deployment and discharge of firearms is progressing. There is a great deal of work still to be done including forensic examinations, ballistic tests and interviews with a number of police officers.

"Investigators have identified some witnesses to events but I would urge anyone who has information about the incident to come forward to assist our investigation."

She added: "This is an independent investigation and we will examine thoroughly the whole incident and report our findings in due course."

Nicholas Rheinberg, the coroner for Cheshire, has formally opened and adjourned the inquest into Mr Grainger's death at Warrington Coroner's Court.

The inquest heard that Grainger was born in Salford and lived in Deane Church Lane, Bolton. His occupation was given as "odd job man".

Grainger was a defendant in a multimillion-pound drugs trial which led to a juror being jailed for contempt of court.

Joanne Fraill, 40, was sentenced to eight months' imprisonment last year after she admitted exchanging Facebook messages with co-defendant Jamie Sewart, 34, who had already been acquitted, in August 2010.

Grainger was later cleared of conspiracy to supply drugs but had already admitted handling stolen cars in connection with the case and was jailed for 20 months.

Tributes were left on Facebook, with one saying: "I love you Anthony, you are the one who will be in my heart forever, my fella, my best friend, my soul mate."

The message ended: "Hope you sleep well xxxx all my love Gail x".

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10:21 AM on 03/09/2012
Note the headline which again is intended to deceive. It should have read no gun "FOUND INSIDE THE CAR" lets just hope no innocent child picks it up on the highway by chance and the police find it first
12:29 AM on 03/07/2012
To be honest ,we do not know the full facts yet.
and we can all speculate, including myself.
We all best wait, till the true facts appear,
if they ever do.
wes
03:36 PM on 03/06/2012
If you had read the original story, the three had been involved in an armed robbery elsewhere. This is why there was a planned operation and guns were handed out to trained marksmen. It was believed that there was a gun in the car that was being used by the three men. The first shot was fired through the front windscrenn prior to the tyres being shot and the CS gas being deployed.
Wait for the full report by the IPCC to see what transpires before making wild accusations concerning the police officers involved.
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10:48 PM on 03/06/2012
@deadmansfriend - the three had NOT been involved in ANY robbery elsewhere unless you know something nobody else does neither does it state ANYWHERE a gun was in the car - then you say wait for the IPCC report before making wild accusations - well congratulations, yours is the wildest and most untruthful in this thread.
10:59 PM on 03/06/2012
THEY HAD NOT been involved in an armed robbery else where, though there had been some armed robberies in that location previously
01:40 PM on 03/06/2012
would people like unarmed police fighting serious crime or bring back hanging for shooting a unarmed
police officer.
I think armed police is a better solution
02:08 PM on 03/06/2012
Yes jimm/
I feel the time has come to arm our police, then
again it is up to them.
The police take the view that if they are armed
the crooks will carry guns also,
the hard fact is that many crooks are armed now.
My fear is how many police will have to die prior
to arming them, they are brave indoviduals, indeed.
wes
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jacksdad41
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11:23 PM on 03/06/2012
Roal Moat shoots unarmed policeman through window of car and blinds policeman for life.
Highly trained, police marksman, wearing body armour and bullet proof vest, involved in a 3 month investigation, car surrounded by police vehicles with front tyres shot out, no reverse means of exit, incapacitated by CS gas, displaying no weapons and offering no resistance shoots father of 3 dead. Who had the best end of that deal weskirk?
01:37 PM on 03/06/2012
A copper shoots an unarmed man? must be in Britain.
03:12 PM on 03/06/2012
A copper shoots an unarmed low life drug dealer? must be in Britain. One down

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02:36 PM on 03/07/2012
silly boy. Lets hope they dont shoot you or your family. That would be a travesty lol
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12:42 PM on 03/06/2012
i find these comments amusing and misleading...were any of you actually there and witnessed what happened? Until the enquiry is completed then maybe you shouldn't suppose!
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12:38 PM on 03/06/2012
So according to this, the man was unarmed, they had not actually done anything, the kids in the village were scared to death, and I know this as I live nearby and have friends and family who live there, he was shot at by a trigger happy policeman, the car and presumably the occupants had already been searched and found nothing, no guns or weapons of any sort, yet still he was shot at and killed, the police were all over the village like a rash and had been for some days, and I know a lot of people out there will be saying that he was a drug dealer etc etc, of which he was not convicted apparently, and yes had he been armed he could of killed someone, and yes he may well have been attempting to rob, but nobody will actually know what his intentions were or were not as he is now dead, once again Warrington Police either dont do anything about incidents which then arise in a persons murder, remember Gary Newlove, or they go forthwith and start shooting people dead, without them not actually doing anything at that time!!!
03:27 PM on 03/10/2012
It wasn't Warrington Police. It was Greater Manchester
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12:02 PM on 03/06/2012
It's no good blaming the Police, It's our fault...The more WE ALL HIDE behind the Curtains at night and Block it all out, the more it will happen... If WE ALL dont care about the people and communities around us then what do you expect?. We have Rapists/Murderers/Pedos/Muggers and thats not accounting for all the other wastes of space that are in our communities, YES we all know it's there, but WE ALL choose to IGNORE IT and hope the Police sort it out.
12:59 AM on 03/07/2012
Yes i agree, when i was younger i always stepped in
to sort out the problem, now an OAP i can only look on
in anger.
wes
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Stanley Austin
11:55 AM on 03/06/2012
I think they done what the IRA do. Shoot first and ask questions afterwards to drug dealers,and the likes..
11:44 AM on 03/06/2012
The IPPC are going to explain their role in investigating how this man was gunned down in a pre- arranged trap when he was sitting in a car and surrounded by armed police. Will it be the Police Officers who are assigned to investigate that will be explaining how the Police will investigate the Police? I would not be surprised if the Police find a gun in a couple of days time!
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12:42 PM on 03/06/2012
What, in the car.
11:44 AM on 03/06/2012
If the firearms officer discharged his weapon without due cause then he is in trouble however, the so-called odd-job man victim was a drug dealer, known to be dangerous and previously implicated in a multi-million pound racket. Armed criminals mean armed police. Also it appears the only reason Grainger escaped jail was because a juror illegally contacted another defendant in the case. His demise is a moral win for society, the only matter yet to be decided being the legality of police actions.

As for deploying Stinger, despite what is seen on tv or the movies, a traffic copper will tell you they don't always work as advertised hence the alternative, in an armed stop, of puncturing (correct spelling) tyres using non-frangible rounds to prevent a suspect vehicle being driven off. There is an article on Wiki, just type in 'Hatton Rounds.' As vinniedog has accurately commented - 'One down.'
06:50 PM on 03/06/2012
To say one down, when another human being has been killed is pretty sick. If we wish to punish a person for a crime, we have due process of law, not the arbitary justice of a policeman's bullet. For the full facts of the case we must wait for an inquiry, but it is shocking that people are celebrating the death of a fellow human on the grounds that he has been in the past tried as a drug dealer.
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10:17 AM on 03/07/2012
And where does it sate he was a drug dealer? Where does it say he was armed? Why would you need stinger when he could not reverse, his front tyres shot out, incapacitated by CS gas and completely surrounded by police cars? If you want to live in a country where justice is dispensed in a car park you are welcome to it - and if the intel had been wrong and it was you or one of your loved ones killed by mistaken identity would you be so quick with your "one down" comments? Even the resident of the village who posted earlier said the residents were terrified - not of the unarmed man in the car who never got out but the paramilitary style death squad firing CS and and killing a man dead. Judge Dredd isnt here just quite yet but when an officer of the law can act with impunity (and you can bet that PC wont see any charges) we are one step closer to Anarchy - citzens will (in some cases already have) lose faith in the people they are supposedly there to protect.