Scottish Independence: England Would 'Bomb Scottish Airports To Defend Itself' Lord Fraser Warns

Posted: 13/03/2012 15:36 Updated: 13/03/2012 15:50

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England could have no choice but to bomb Scottish airports in order to defend itself from attack if Scotland became independent, the former Solicitor General for Scotland has warned.

Lord Fraser of Carmyllie said if Scotland was left undefended, the enemies of England could use it as a base from which to launch air raids over the border, The Herald reported.

"If that were to happen what alternative would England have but to come and bomb the hell out of Glasgow airport and Edinburgh airport," he said.

The Tory peer was speaking in Edinburgh on Monday at the launch of a pamphlet examining the prospects of the UK splitting up.

In the document Lord Fraser said he was pleased to see that the SNP did not intend to totally disengage from the British military if it achieved independence.

"I would not wish my beloved Scotland to be a war zone for those with evil intent on the sovereignty of England," he writes.

"That was, however, the risk. If we totally failed to defend ourselves alone or in conjunction with England, we offered up ourselves as the battleground."

The Scot said he could not see which countries would have "evil intentions against England" following the end of the Cold War but cautioned against complacency.

"Like others I missed the import of the Balkan crisis and the worldwide ramifications of 9/11 and would hesitate to gaze into the crystal ball and predict the crises even in the rest of the century. All I would argue is that the 20 th century should have taught us never to let your guard down."

Alex Salmond has indicated that he expects a close degree of military cooperation between an independent Scotland and the UK.

Asked on Tuesday whether Scots currently serving on the British military would have to leave he said they would have a choice.

"People would have a choice, we've undertaken that well inherit the military capability in Scotland and we would sustain that," he told the BBC.

"You don't have to say to somebody 'you must leave the British Army', the British Army currently has people from 23 countries serving in it.

"You'd a have choice, a choice of whether to join the Scottish armed forces or to stay serving in the British armed services."

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999criticalmary
06:07 PM on 03/23/2013
W H A T ! ? ! ?
Kind of headline grabbing = nonsense this is. Is there not more to be concerned about
12:06 AM on 03/12/2013
England has allowed the enemies of it's culture and freedom to infiltrate without a shot fired or Scottish airport used.
01:34 PM on 12/31/2012
another lord showing us how out of touch he is
04:51 AM on 08/05/2012
However silly and hysterical opinions on both sides become, the result of the 2014 referendum will be decided in the main by Scottish voters who have considered carefully the pros and cons of remaining part of the UK. They might vote for the SNP in a nationwide general election as a justified snub to the Westminster parliament,however a vote for total independence based on a 'yes/no' question is bound to fail ,no matter the silliness of the probable attempts to link 1314 and 2014.
Alex Salmond as the new William Wallace,blue woad and all,is about as ridiculous an image as that laughable film with that Scientologist bloke .What was it called again ?
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gimmeanamethen
saying it like it is
10:29 PM on 07/01/2012
With all the cuts in military spending there won't be any planes left to bomb scotland...

unless he is thinking of using a giant catapult.
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SecularAdvocate
Media Watcher
06:04 PM on 07/01/2012
Maybe it is a War.

The first casualty usually being truth.

Do these people really think disinformation on this scale effective?

I think they do.
07:04 PM on 03/17/2012
It is common knowledge that during the cold war,
the USA would have bombed the UK ,if it came too all out war.
and the Russians, landed in Britain, fact.
wes
12:38 PM on 03/17/2012
Note to jonainpdx," American here". I would have thought that as an American you would understand the reasons behind the Scottish independence movement. Your own country fought a war of independence to shake off Westminster rule. We may do it at the point of a pencil rather than a bayonet, but the principle is the same. Who best represents the aspirations of the people of Scotland? As for focussing on our differences, look in the mirror dear. What sets you apart? And if it's a dumb idea, why did Americans take the trouble with the loss of life it entailed? Our size isn't important. There are a number of European countries comparable to Scotland doing very nicely thank you. Your smug superior, tone is rather misjudged, as your own size and might hasn't saved your country from it's present parlous state, and it's dependence on Chinese credit. As for bombing other other countries, America seems to have cornered that market.
04:22 AM on 03/16/2012
Independence won't happen... not only because its a nationalist movement and they have all been historically useless when it comes to running anything (early days as yet for SNP) but because of the implications it would have globally....Nationalist governments are not trusted. and yes... the UK has been stable and very successful, that cannot be doubted or denied and its because unity equates to stability. But like spoilt children, and things go bad for a while, they think killing the golden goose will reveal greater rewards and riches. It wont! because once the UK is seen a fractured it will loose influence and therefore political clout! this would be catastrophic for all and have a global impact..... Yes the UK is still very influential... despite what others may think.

The USA, France, Spain, and other countries are opposed ( secretly but definitely) and not to mention financial institutions with UK interests. I predict that SNP will either, through outside pressure greatly water down its demands if successful in an election or there will be threats of withdrawal of investment etc to force compliance on the issue.

Secretly... no country ( perhaps China who are in fact nationalist and no longer communist ..not that there is significant differences anyway) will support a UK split and they will actively work against it because to loose a powerful ally in current world climate will simply not be permitted.
02:08 PM on 03/15/2012
When I read wee Peter's obviously cogent, well thought out comments I did wonder if I'd perhaps slept through the rest of March and it was now April 1st! I can only hope John Smeaton's back at work in Glasgow Airport when the action starts...he does not like folk trying to bomb his airport! Unspecified enemy commander and "English" aircraft beware. I assume that at this point in the future, possibly in a galaxy far, far away, both Northern Ireland and Wales are independent countries in their own right? Which begs the question, why doestn't this alien invader from the nether regions of space order them to get Ryanair off their runways as well and attack from several areas at once.
08:44 AM on 03/15/2012
Lord fraser needs to be sectioned under the mental health act as a matter of urgency.

That said - he has done a most excellent job of highlighting how out of touch with reality his social class is
07:13 PM on 03/14/2012
Actually as a Scot I'm very grateful to Lord Fraser - he's doing a great job of helping to guarantee Scottish independence. England can continue to have its ''special relationship'' with Washington as the tail to the US government's dog; more and more Scots have had enough and want to extract our collective head from Washington's backside.

American people, like English ones, are generally lovely - people are people, good bad and indifferent, wherever you go, including Scotland. It's the governments that are a problem; after 300 years most Scots (other than Lord Fraser and his co-crawlers) have had enough of being treated politically as inferior beings by arrogant ruling powers with imperialist delusions, thanks.
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robadeaux
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07:02 PM on 03/14/2012
I had to do some research to find out who this addle brained old poop is...
it wasn't worth the time.
05:30 PM on 03/14/2012
a more pressing matter is the re-establishment of an ENGLISH parliament based in MERCIA
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12:43 AM on 03/15/2012
We Middle Saxons are the true English; a parliament building alongside the perimeter road at Heathrow airport makes sense.
04:12 PM on 03/15/2012
i also have norman ancestry ,.........oops!
11:39 AM on 03/14/2012
Quote: "The Scot said he could not see which countries would have "evil intentions against England" following the end of the Cold War but cautioned against complacency."

Would he be so bold if the Scots formed alliances with the Russians and had military bases in Scotland?

I know it's unlikely but I can's imagine any other country (without getting really ridiculous) that could set up in Scotland and pose a threat to England.

Even if terrorists set up in Scotland, wide scale bombing would be ineffective - there were no bombing raids in Northern Ireland or the Republic while the IRA was threatening the UK. So all in all a a pretty nutty comment from Lord Fraser of Carmyllie.
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ScottishScript
"I am not a number, I am a person!"
12:06 PM on 03/14/2012
Imagine ten-fifteen years from now and China has become not only the world's biggest economy, but a true democratic nation. Then imagine Scotland leasing naval bases in return for billions in investment. It's possible, but not probable.

More likely the States would jump in and double the offer just to keep China out. One cannot over estimate the strategic importance Scotland represents. My point being, we don't know where we might all stand in twenty years.

What Fraser said was just plain silly and could apply to English airports in reverse, fortunately I don't know any other Scots who thinks the way he does. We have far more pressing matters to worry about.