Falklands Anniversary: Argentinian President Attacks 'Absurd' Britain

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A child at the Malvinas Falklands war Memorial in Ushuaia, Argentina

Argentina's president has condemned Britain's "ridiculous and absurd" stance on the Falkland Island as ceremonies were held to mark the 30th annoversary of the conflict.

Leading her country's commemorations of the conflict, which cost the lives of 649 Argentines, Christina Fernandez de Kirchner called for talks on ending the "unjust" situation - something London has ruled out for as long as no change is demanded by the islanders themselves.

de Kirchner was talking as the anniversary of the invasion of the Islands was marked by both war widows' prayers and a renewed push by Argentina for control of the territory. In a speech that illustrated how the diplomatic battle showed no signs of abating, she attacked the UK's "colonial" ambitions, saying:

"It is unjust that, in the 21st century, there are still colonial enclaves such as the one we have here a few kilometres away. There are only 16 such colonial enclaves in the world, 10 of which are British."

Meanwhile, Mr Cameron who, like Ms Kirchner, included the enemy dead in his anniversary message, insisted Britain was no less committed now to than in 1982 to protecting the right to self-determination.

"Britain remains staunchly committed to upholding the right of the Falkland Islanders, and of the Falkland Islanders alone, to determine their own future," he said.

"That was the fundamental principle that was at stake 30 years ago: and that is the principle which we solemnly re-affirm today."

It was, he said, "a day to remember all those who lost their lives" on both sides as well as to "salute the heroism of the Task Force" sent to correct a "profound wrong".

His words were echoed by Defence Secretary Philip Hammond, who also dismissed warnings from former military chiefs that the UK would be unable to defend the islands from a new invasion.

"We will defend them robustly, we have the assets, the people, the equipment in place to do so," he said in response to comments by the man who led the task force, Admiral Sir John Woodward.

The lack of an aircraft carrier would make a repeat impossible, the ex-Navy chief told The Times.

Mr Hammond noted however that there was "not the slightest intelligence to suggest that there is any credible military threat to the Falklands".

Argentina's complaints - including to the United Nations - of "militarisation" by the UK will be heightened by the deployment on Tuesday of the Navy's most advanced warship for its maiden operation.

Destroyer HMS Dauntless will set sail from Portsmouth for the Falklands, a day before the 30th anniversary of the task force leaving the UK for its mammoth voyage.

It comes after Argentine hackles were raised by the "provocative" six-week deployment of Prince William to the islands as an RAF search and rescue helicopter pilot.

The Ministry of Defence has played down what it says is a "pre-planned and routine operation" to take over the patrols of Plymouth-based frigate HMS Montrose.

Spurred on by the discovery of oil reserves off the Falklands, President Kirchner has spearheaded an intense reassertion of Argentina's claim over what it calls Las Malvinas.

It has secured the support of other South American countries for a ban on Falkland-flagged ships in their ports and is seeking to restrict flights as part of an economic squeeze.

At the weekend, it threatened legal action against British and American banks involved in advising UK companies exploring for oil.

Foreign Secretary William Hague, who has led a push to improve UK trade and other links with South America, described Argentina's recent aggressive actions as "deeply regrettable".

The political tensions provided a backdrop to commemorations - notably a service of remembrance at the National Memorial Arboretum's Millennium Chapel attended by widows of those killed.

A single candle was lit and will be left alight for the 74 days of the conflict.

Among those attending was the widow of 2 Para commander Lt Col "H" Jones, who died while leading a charge against an Argentine machine gun post at Goose Green.

"The islanders have always been fiercely British and want to stay that way. I would like to believe that we would, if we could, do it again," Sara Jones said.

A memorial, initiated by the South Atlantic Medal Association (SAMA 82), will be unveiled at the Arboretum on May 20, in front of more than 600 veterans.

Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy said: "We must remember all those who fought.

"Over 900 lives were lost and we pay special tribute to the sacrifice of the 255 Britons who fell fighting for our country.

"Despite recent Argentinian belligerence, relations between our two countries are totally different from early 1982, but we continue to stand for that right.

"There is no evidence Falkland Islanders want anything other than to remain British.

"Commemorations this month will be about our pride in that principle as well as honouring the dead and injured."

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Argentina's president has condemned Britain's "ridiculous and absurd" stance on the Falkland Island as ceremonies were held to mark the 30th annoversary of the conflict. Leading her country's comme...
Argentina's president has condemned Britain's "ridiculous and absurd" stance on the Falkland Island as ceremonies were held to mark the 30th annoversary of the conflict. Leading her country's comme...
 
 
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03:44 PM on 04/04/2012
Absurd ? a Country so rich in Natural resources that they are all potless .
You have waste dyour own country Argentina , and you will get no sympathy from us in UK ,
And if you want to take it further ,we can put the Butchers Apron on again , You will be glad for a quiet life in a third world country then
01:40 PM on 04/04/2012
It was also "ridiculous and absurd" by the Argies 30 years ago to invade and cost 907 lives.
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
12:30 PM on 04/03/2012
Watching the president of Argentina screaming invective, I noticed that she finally gave herself away. It seems she is afraid we want to rob the earth of it's natural resources, namely the oil and gas. Of course if Argentina had the islands, they wouldn't do that would they? Of course not, they would leave those natural resources alone wouldn't they. Yeah right!!!!

The people living there are British, happy to be British, and want to remain British. The right to self determination is enshrined in the U.N. charter, so the Argentinians who want to take that right away, are acting illegally in defiance of the U.N. the very people they are complaining to about us!!!

If someone sells you.. lets say for the sake of argument an Island that the seller doesn't own, that island does not become yours. It simply means that you have been conned, and rather than getting sympathy you are more likely to look a bit ridiculous for having let yourself be taken for a ride. I don't doubt that Spain sold the Falklands to the Argies. The plain fact being that the Spanish didn't own them to sell. So by any stretch of the imagination the Argies have no legal claim to the Falklands. They tried to invade 30 years ago to take th epeople's mind of the economic mess they were in. Now they want their hands on them because there's 'black gold' there. SIMPLES!!!!
01:31 PM on 04/03/2012
good morning Terry,as usual your dead right,but its only something we have both been saying for months now,we knew that all this posturing was a front from the begining,it was a blinder for the argie public to divert their knowladge off the political problems they have,just like this pastie tax is to divert our attention away from the granny tax & all the financial cuts they are making at the British publics expence,very true re the natural resources,of course we will use them any country would as they are getting harder to obtain by the day,but its the islands population those that voted 100% to stay BRITISH !! ruled that are the main reason for defending that little piece of land,& I do not believe the statement that was released by some argie that they have no intention of trying to retake the islands,as i feel this to be a ruse to make us drop our guard then in they come,!!
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
01:49 PM on 04/03/2012
Good morning Paul, how are you today? I was wondering where you were. I think he was their foreign minister, He said there are no military plans, but as you correctly say, if we dropped our guard, they would be in like a rat up a drainpipe. Our so called army brass are not helping by arguing as to whether we can defend the Islands, or retake them again. That might embolden the Argies into trying it again. BTW, the trip to Llandudno. I was right, my government made a beeline for this jewellery shop. I got off relatively lightly at £500 for a pair of earrings, but my wallet had to be given oxygen to get over the shock. At least the kids were entertained.
12:19 PM on 04/03/2012
If there were more people living there they would want independance, not protection. Failing that, they could always make it a prison colony, the Australians have done quite well I believe....
11:36 AM on 04/03/2012
A Failed President of a Failed Nation trying to rally support by blaming us.
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11:31 AM on 04/03/2012
Is she articulating what the majority, or even a large minority, of Argentinians think?
Do they know that the people who've lived there for generations don't want to be Argentine?

I really don't know. Anyone here have experience of Argentina?
katertaif
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12:15 PM on 04/03/2012
Whether or not they know that doesn't matter to them, that they have found oil and gas does.
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12:41 PM on 04/03/2012
Well a previous comment of mine on the Falklands was taken off, so I really want to know: Do the Argentinean people know the Falklanders don't want to be part of Argentina and don't care, or are they just bullies contemptuous of the rights of the little guy?

Seems to me it boils down to either one or the other.
10:22 AM on 04/03/2012
At a time like this Argentina, like us, should be
commemorating their war dead, not sabre rattling.
wes
09:38 AM on 04/03/2012
D.C has misplaced loyalities, try spending our money at home instead of abroad, you need to realise that this country is in dire straits, schools are falling into dis-repair, hospitals are too in need of an overall update,petrol and food prices are on the rises, pensioners are being stitched up by the government,Britians workforce has now got to work longer and the retirement age has risen all because the government is strapped for cash supposedly, by D.C can spend money abroad by sending the Navy into the Gulf to try and frighten the Iranian's bombing Libya,Iraq and Afghanistan all for what ? diddly squat ! nothing has been gained by it.this country is in meltdown and now you want to send the Navy to a windswept field in the south Atlantic to frighten the Argentines away from an oil field, its about time this country woke up and smelt the coffee, the British government isn't bothered about a few hundred people thousands of miles away, they are bothered about the oil field off the coast.. it seems as if oil is more important than people !! Lie detector test for Cameron..
katertaif
My wife thinks I have one fault. Everything I do!
12:36 PM on 04/03/2012
The people of those Islands are British, and want to stay that way. Are their rights worth nothing? You would I assume from the tone of your post give the rights of those Islanders away by allowing Argentina in. Yes there is oil there, and yes we will extract it. So would the Argies. The oil is important, but in my opinion, the rights of the Falkland Islanders are all important.
07:41 AM on 04/03/2012
Christina Fernandez de Kirchner, to me looks like a call girl,she has no idea what the hell she,s trying to get her people into apart from another wooping,just because the falkland s are nearer to argyland than the uk dosent mean a thing ,take for instance the cannaries ,they are nearer to morocco than spain yet they are deemed spanish ,so whats the big problem,well we all no that one OIL and its ours.if they want it they can buy it like anyone else
06:52 AM on 04/03/2012
AND WE STILL SEND AID TO THIS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY! WE ARE THIRD WORLD TOO BUT NOBODY SENDS MILLIONS HERE.
07:07 AM on 04/03/2012
That's a little off topic. You appear to have issues, sir.
04:12 AM on 04/03/2012
hey - bloke burning the flag - show your face - coward
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GingerlyColors
No will to change it, no right to criticize it
07:17 AM on 04/03/2012
Is flag burning a crime in Argentina? If not then why hide your face?
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Mac Howard
Thank god we got convicts, you got the puritans
03:36 AM on 04/03/2012
Is Kirchner in trouble at home? The Falklands saved Thatcher's political bacon maybe she needs a touch of the same :)
02:17 AM on 04/03/2012
There are two main islands, currently with very little of anything on either. Maybe they should make an agreement with Argentina, they get the Western Island and Britain retains the Eastern Island with Port Stanley, with mutual defence of the islands as a whole. Then at last something might actually be done to the place, increase the population and industry and make it somewhere people want to go. Otherwise this dispute will just go on and on, and geographically it's an awfully long way from here to defend forever.
07:07 AM on 04/03/2012
Maybe a little research will fill you in on exactly what happens on the islands at the moment. To say there is very little of anything on either is wide of the mark. There is a vibrant economy on the islands involving fishing, farming and tourism. And soon a possible oil industry.
Argentina has no claim whatsoever to the Falklands and didn't even exist as a nation when Britons first colonised them.
Having had relatives fight and die down there in '82 I for one would be more than happy to make sure Argentina never gets its hands on them if the islanders wish to remain British, which they solidly do.
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GingerlyColors
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07:14 AM on 04/03/2012
As well as the Falkland Islands, South Georgia is claimed by Argentina and was also occupied in 1982. It lies over 1,000 miles East-South-East of the Falklands and is a sizable island over 100 miles long and there are no permanent inhabitants. South Georgia along with the South Sandwich Islands were Falkland Islands dependencies until 1985 when they became administered as a separate British Overseas Territory. Just south of the 60th Parallel are South Orkney Islands which are part of the British Antarctic Territory but also Argentine Antarctic as the latter sits inside the former. There is a British and and Argentinian base on the islands.
What is p**ssing the Argentinians off is our refusal to negotiate at all. I cannot see why we cannot discuss the future of these territories. The Falkland Islands themselves are not negotiable due to the wishes of the people who live there but I cannot see the point of holding on to South Georgia. I doubt the penguins and seals are bothered about who owns it. As for Antarctica we can renegotiate our claims. Both Britain and Argentina are signed up to the Antarctic Treaty and other treaties concerning wildlife conservation.
09:59 AM on 04/03/2012
If the Argentine claim is invalid, then what is there to negotiate?

If something is your property, would you negotiate ownership with anyone who claimed it as theirs?
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Hugh Albert
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10:06 AM on 04/03/2012
While the islanders are determined to remain British we have no moral authority to negotiate with Argentina about their fate.
It costs us a fortune, but that is just too bad; we should have been a bit more discriminating in 1833.
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Nathan0316
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02:03 AM on 04/03/2012
So it's been reasonably smooth sailing for most of the last 30 years, then oil is discovered and suddenly Argentina is pressing a claim that they can't back up. What surprising timing!
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Gunderan
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11:16 AM on 04/03/2012
Not really they have known about the oil since before the Falklands war,thats one of the reasons Argentina wanted it in the first place and why we wanted to keep it.You don't think Maggie was bothered about the rights of the islanders do you no it was about the private British company that ran them and the oil. plus if you own the Falkland's that gives you rights to the oil that is underneath Antarctica which is just as profitable.Another reason was the fascist dictatorship in Argentina wanted to unite the country and a war does work well in the fascist mentality.This maybe offtopic but i love Desmond Tutu the church sanctified the disapeard in Argentina and now thinks that people who democratically decided to be part of the UK should be forced to become Argentinian.Got to love those church people.
01:48 AM on 04/03/2012
It's very simple, the people in the UK, it's overseas territories and dependances live their lives based upon the basic principles of self determination. We cherish our freedom of democracy and would defend it with our lifes. We are proud of our glourious history and the unrivalled contribution our small island nation has made to the people and their nations across the globe. It is this same nation who has time after time,woken from apparent slumber and decline to secure the freedoms of surpressed people around the world. We are a tolerant people but will not accept injustice and that's why we would always defend the rights of the Falkland Islanders.
02:33 AM on 04/03/2012
Martin..I salute you...It`s the likes of you that make me proud to be British :0)