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So Gay: Teaching About LGBTQ Issues in Schools

Posted: 03/11/2012 00:00

Here's some really gay news. And by "gay", I mean "great".

This week, it was announced that France is going to start teaching about LGBTQ issues in primary schools as a way of helping to combat homophobia. They've likened the situation to educating young people about other types of bullying.

France seemingly recognises that it's simply not acceptable for children to throw the word "gay" around as an insult (well, okay, to throw around the French version of "gay", which is apparently "pédé") or to discriminate against people based on their gender identity and/or sexual orientation. Defending this new educational programme against the criticism that it is homosexual "propaganda", Daniel Labaquere, the national secretary for the teachers' union in France, said that actually, this is just about teaching children about relationships and respect.

Sounds wonderful, doesn't it?

So why aren't there such nationwide programmes in the UK or the US?

Thinking about it brings to mind a quote from Julie Burchill's book Sugar Rush. When Kim's school brings in an anti-bullying performance for the children to watch, Kim thinks:

"You couldn't argue with the basic premise of course - that people shouldn't be picked on just because they're gay. But this is SCHOOL, excuse me, and you could just as easily do a play about how wrong it is picking on ginger people, people with glasses and people who put their hands up in class for any other reason than to demand toilet-time. We'll GROW OUT OF IT! In the meantime, doing stuff like this for us makes about as much sense as doing it for a bunch of monkeys in the zoo."

This cynical view - ie that bullying is just what kids do and we should accept it - seems to prevail in many countries, not least the English-speaking ones. But that's a pitiful excuse, because it suggests that we should accept anything people do, just because, you know, they're doing it. It gets pretty tautological, doesn't it?

Also, of course, people don't necessarily "GROW OUT OF IT", as Kim puts it. If they aren't receiving the message that bullying and discriminating are wrong behaviours, how and where are they going to learn? What, exactly, is supposed to make them grow and change?

Here's what I'd suggest as a programme of education in the UK, the US and elsewhere. First of all, let's start with literature. We know that literature is a way for children to learn about different cultures/backgrounds/beliefs/feelings/experiences, and that often they can empathise with characters, even if they have little in common with them other than their humanity (which, indeed, is quite a lot that we all share). So we'd begin by introducing young people to queers and to queer topics through some of the great age-appropriate books out there.

We'd then gradually bring queer topics into other parts of the curriculum. Why not feature a gay couple in a maths problem the way a straight couple would generally be featured? Why not talk about queer artists or writers? Or about how LGBTQ people have been oppressed just as other groups have throughout history? Why not talk about how queer feelings are just as acceptable as other kinds, and explore safe sex and safe relationships across the range of gender and sexual identities? Referring to non-heterosexual and non-cis people and experiences strengthens children's understanding that they are equally valid.

Then, schools can also invite in LGBTQ people to give talks, such as through Elly Barnes' Diversity Role Models programme. Sociological research shows that meeting and talking to "the other" is one of the best ways to decrease fear and dislike and to instead increase understanding, respect, and acceptance.

For those who would argue against this, what exactly is their reasoning? If they're afraid that learning that LGBTQ people exist is going to turn young people queer, what proof do they have that this is how sexuality/gender identity works? After all, lots of queer people were only exposed to books/films/articles about heterosexuals and only met straight or cisgender people, but that didn't make them straight or cis.

And if they're worried that validating other people somehow invalidates their own lives, they can't be very secure in their own identities.

An educational programme along these lines is very obviously not about recruitment. Rather, it's about, well, education. It involves telling children about the kinds of people they're likely to meet during their lives and indeed the kinds of people they might even be themselves. It will make schools (and, later, workplaces, and society in general) more tolerant. People might stop using "gay" to describe everything bad and they might show more respect and concern for their fellow human beings.

Let's join France by doing something truly gay: let's educate children and help them develop into respectful, tolerant people.

 

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08:18 AM on 11/06/2012
Interesting, I complained to the Huff about Ms. Epstein's use of the word pédé. In response she posted a reply to my comment below in which she admitted that she didn't know French and found the word in something she read somewhere. She never apologised for using the offensive word but instead insisted that I had missed her point. I posted a calm, logical response demonstrating that she is guilty of doing exactly what she's complaining about. Using offensive words without understanding what they mean. Now the conversation has been removed. It's a shame that Huff readers don't have the opportunity to read it and make up their own minds.
10:38 AM on 11/05/2012
Diversity Role Models are doing a great job in the UK. I am very happy to see more and more people becoming patrons as well as making themselves available to go into schools for talks with school classes.
Intolerance that is born out of ignorance cannot be diminished without talking about it: giving people a chance to talk about the issues and evaluate their understanding against actual experiences.
It can only be a good thing to talk about diversity.
10:55 AM on 11/04/2012
I'm not an expert in French, but I'm a gay may who lived in Le Marais for four years. The following statement makes me seriously question Ms. Epstein's credentials.

"...the French version of "gay", which is apparently "pédé"..."

The word for gay in French is "gai". The word "pédé" derives from the French word for pedophile and is generally considered similar to the word f*ggot among gay men.

It's not a word Ms. Epstein should be using or peddling as an acceptable term to apply to gay men in French.
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Stan James
09:11 AM on 11/04/2012
According to my psychologist neighbor, about 3000 gay kids commit suicide every year. Its a repeating 9-11 of Americas gay kids.

The catholic church which claims to support life, is partially responsible for this problem of induced murder by suicide. It has staunchly opposed in eg Canada having gay straight alliances via Glesen, claming it wants to have a respect for all group instead

its real objective is to prevent a group where gay kids will come - because they'd have to out themselves in such a group and that would further increase the number of victims of bullying and suicide

Its just another horrific way that the church proves its support for life is a lie re gay people

to say nothing of its recent attempt to blame the molestation of children by its sex starved priests ON THE CHILDREN

No wonder the church is on the verge of collapse in Ireland - the most catholic nation in the world

: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Pope-told-Irish-church-is-on-the-edge-of-collapse-116219834.html#ixzz1qMNVZrLg

The church claims to support life and the dignity of every human person. I guess they still dont continue to consider gays as human.

It cant happen soon enough to save more children.
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04:47 AM on 11/04/2012
I think it's a great idea, why not teach young people acceptance/tolerance of individuals and let them make their decisions after they've been educated, free from stereotypes.. Currently, people do the opposite causing individual pain, misunderstanding and sometimes violence.

The US has become an anti-education, anti-science cult in many parts of the country to the detriment of individuals and the populous. Good luck advocating an agenda that benefits everybody.
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Stan James
09:12 AM on 11/04/2012
Much of this comes from religion masquerading as science.
09:40 PM on 11/03/2012
I am not against gays, but i am very against children in school being told its normal, they should be allowed to make up their own mind when their old enough
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cds12765
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08:35 AM on 11/04/2012
Uh, whenever someone says that they aren't against something and then use the word "but" then they are pretty much against what they said that they weren't against.
09:14 AM on 11/04/2012
There's always a but, and people are allowed to have an opinion and you cannot legislate or make laws to make people tow the line of the minority, I am not against gays I have friends who are gay and they are very nice people, but again you have to be very careful what you teach children at a young age, you only have to look how much damage religion has caused the world, I will not go into detail you know what I mean, Relgion should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity, its the bain of the world.
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Stan James
09:25 AM on 11/04/2012
After they have been poisoned by our society where homophobia still exists????????????

As Dobson of focus on the family said.............. Give me a child by the age of seven and I'll make them a christian for life.

He didnt say what kind of christian - Focus btw almost ended up on the SPLC hate group list.,but somewhat moderated its views when the son of the founder took over.
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06:55 PM on 11/03/2012
"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error," (Rom. 1:26-27).

As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. They will not seek forgiveness. They will die in their sins. They will face God's holy condemnation. But, that isn't all. In addition to the judgment of being given over to their sin, those involved in it also promote it and condemn others who don't approve of their behavior.

"...and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them," (Rom. 1:32).

So, in their hearty approval of homosexuality they encourage others to be trapped in their sinfulness. They will not trust in Christ's redemptive work on the cross. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, they will have no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal hell. But, we don't want this for anyone.
09:05 PM on 11/03/2012
And its this sort of religious bullcrap that causes most of the intolerance that is wrong in this world
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11:26 PM on 11/03/2012
you my friend, are of a reprobate mind
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eliasasm
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11:27 PM on 11/03/2012
This isn't the religion page. Your comment does not equate to this story.
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11:56 PM on 11/03/2012
It has more to do with this story than you will ever understand, because the bible has foretold it all.
03:25 PM on 11/03/2012
Am I right in saying that in the past Mz Burchill was in a relationship with a woman ? I.e that she was in a gay relationship ? The reason i ask is because it would, again, confirm my oft stated view that there are a wide range of views within the LGBT family but these are not reflected.
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02:36 PM on 11/03/2012
Another politically driven attempt to attack the fundamental human right that is freedom of religion
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LoganDC1
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11:50 PM on 11/03/2012
Your freedom of religion being predicated on my pretending not to exist?

Your hold on your faith seems a little shaky. Personally, I'm a Methodist.
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Stan James
09:27 AM on 11/04/2012
How about freedom from religion.??
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02:17 PM on 11/04/2012
Nobody forces you to engage in religious practice, but at the same time you cannot prevent someone from upholding religious beliefs as long as they aren't causing harm to anyone
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Mneme
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01:16 PM on 11/03/2012
I think I'm going to make a tally of how many times 'throat shoving' is alluded to in this thread.

Personally I thinks it's remarkable that people whose oesophagi are purportedly full of other's opinions can still manage to make so much noise.
08:58 AM on 11/03/2012
great news....the sooner it comes to the UK the better....school is abuse for gay kids
10:18 AM on 11/03/2012
and so the solution is to ram homosexual activity down the throats of already confused kids, I dont think so, by all means lets have schools promote equality across the board but to promote one sexual perversion over another is the slippery slope to an anything goes society which isn't conducive to the populations health or behavior, a few morality lessons wouldn't go adrift imo.
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cds12765
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02:24 PM on 11/03/2012
Provide links supporting your claim that it is a perversion. I want to see all the professional links that support your views.
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eliasasm
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11:33 PM on 11/03/2012
Good grief and in the 21st century. Really?
08:25 AM on 11/03/2012
Oh how wrong, people have been brainwashed and almost shamed into believing that being gay is normal, the PC lobby have almost won the battle, this has no place in any school and should be banned along with religious education
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migdawn
05:38 PM on 11/03/2012
well if the so called parents out there today yesterday and tomorrow would have the b**** to teach their kids what real life was about. This wouldnt be taking up space in the schools. But parents retreat to their caves. Scared to have conversations with their children. but somehow manage all along to bestow their own ignorances and phobias on them at the same time. Now thats a shame. So where is a child to learn..Where is a confused person to go when they know even at an early age that they may not be like all of their friends?? Should they also retreat into a cave of their own. ABsolutley not!!! This whole world needs to learn that we as a world are very different person to person. And even if you do not embrace a life style or agree with it. You dang well shouldnt bash it.. WE all need to learn to get along. it is 2012 and not 1812. come one now..... It all starts aat home....
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Willow712
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04:03 AM on 11/05/2012
I think that being gay IS normal. Normal for that person. Just because you don't think its normal, doesn't matter much, because we don't listen to you anyway.

This has more of a place in schools than any religious education. Religious education goes against the secular basis for our government and our school districts. This is diversity and teaching everybody that there are different kinds of people around us, and that is good, because everybody has different ideas, personalities, etc. Diversity education is good for schools. Unlike religious education.
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jacksdad41
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09:18 PM on 11/02/2012
And in the same class, which will no doubt have a fair percentage of Muslim children will they also explain the tolerant nature of the French as being the first country to ban the niqab or is that a step too far?? (a policy on which I strongly agree BTW). Tolerance and understanding should not be polarised just to make a point about any particular group or faith.
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Richie2012
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07:43 PM on 11/02/2012
Q? LGBT.... Q? Questionable? Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Questionable? Seriously - what does the Q stand for?
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NoSandwiches
07:53 PM on 11/02/2012
I'm not sure either. Quiet? Queer? Do people want to be called Queer or is it a slur? I can't keep up with the acronyms either. Hey for the rest of us, people, please spell things out. I need a dictionary.
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Richie2012
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08:46 PM on 11/02/2012
I wasn't far off - it means "Questioning" as in not wanting to be typecast as L or G or B or T because the thought process is still ongoing. I think also, as you say, it can mean Queer too. Well, I think a C needs to be added to all that for the likes of me. LGBTQC. Because all these acronyms are rather Confusing! I'm sure of my own sexuality but I don't fully understand everyone else's sexuality. I am LGBTQC!
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11:50 PM on 11/02/2012
All this will never catch on in primary schools because not all kids know their aphabet at that are
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10:49 PM on 11/02/2012
Thanks. I clicked on the article just to ask that question!
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11:53 PM on 11/02/2012
OOOpse..i made a typo its age! not are lol....
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