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'If You Don't Like It. Don't Buy It' - Brilliant! Why Didn't I Think Of That?

Posted: 15/03/2013 23:00

I've got a confession to make. I may have been a bit silly starting the No More Page 3 campaign. You see, someone just tweeted us something. "If you don't like it, don't buy it", the tweet read.

There was I, ballistically campaigning about Page Three being damaging when, oh, I really am feeling very stupid now, because I could just not buy it and everything would be fine. So, I'll be off then. Sorry about that. Or rather. No. Just no.

There are so many reasons why "if you don't like it, don't buy it" doesn't work as an argument for Page 3, that I will be breaking out the big gun bullet points.

So, here goes. This is for you, Mr If You Don't Like It Don't Buy It and all the others before you, and that includes you, Nick Clegg.

1) I was most affected by these images at the age of 11 when my breasts were developing and my brother and his mates would be commenting on Page Three girls breasts everyday. I really looked up to my big brother and this situation taught me that my breasts were only there for men to look at. Mine fell short of the ones that were in the daily newspaper, therefore I was failing somehow and I was ashamed. I didn't buying it.

2) Jo, a teammate on the campaign, used to work in a pub in North Yorkshire, where it lay on the bar every evening, she was sexually harassed everyday as comments where made about her breasts and the models, until she was eventually sexually assaulted. She didn't buy it.

3) The school girl, who wrote to the Everyday Sexism project saying that the boys in her school hold up Page Three in the corridor and mark the girls out of 10 as they walk past, doesn't buy it.

4) The woman who was made to look at Page Three while she was abused as a child, didn't buy it.

5) When Clare Short stood up in the 80s and spoke out about these pictures being in the paper, she received 1000s of letters of support. Twelve were from women who had Page Three mentioned to them while they were being raped. These women didn't buy it.

6) The woman who sits in a staff room everyday while a male colleague shows Page Three to all the men with the words 'would you do that?' doesn't buy it.

7) The nurse who wrote and told us that she has to treat men as they comment on young women's breasts, doesn't buy it.

8) The mother who took her six-year-old daughter to a café for a treat and found Page three lying open on a table and was asked "Mummy, why isn't that lady wearing a top?" doesn't buy it.

9) The father who felt outraged that a man was looking at Page Three while his three-and-a-half year-old daughter was having a hair cut, didn't buy it.

10) The teacher who asks the class to bring in newspapers for painting and has to explain why there's a naked woman in the 'news'paper, doesn't buy it.

And, as writer Lauren Bravo says, "if you can't communicate the logic of something in simple terms a kid can grasp, there's a good chance it might be completely stupid."

We are all affected by Page Three whether we buy it or not, because we all live in a society where the most widely read paper in the country makes 'normal' the idea that women are there primarily for men's sexual pleasure.

As one woman noted on our Facebook page, "if I lived in times of slavery, I wouldn't be content not to buy a slave, I'd protest against it because I believe it to be wrong".

'If you don't like it, don't buy it' doesn't work, believe me, I wish it did.

 

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I've got a confession to make. I may have been a bit silly starting the No More Page 3 campaign. You see, someone just tweeted us something. "If you don't like it, don't buy it", the tweet read. Th...
I've got a confession to make. I may have been a bit silly starting the No More Page 3 campaign. You see, someone just tweeted us something. "If you don't like it, don't buy it", the tweet read. Th...
 
 
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09:03 on 11/05/2013
Page 3 is frankly porn and should not be in a mainstream newspaper. It should be confined to top shelf sealed adult magazines for over 18s only. Because of the way it is distributed it is everywhere (on the bus, on the train, in the cafe, in the pub, even on the pavement as litter). This means everyone is exposed to it whether they want to or not (including children) which makes the popular argument that page 3 supporters use "if you dont like it, dont buy it" useless. Page 3 encourages men to view women as sex objects and can even encourage crimes like sexual assualt!
16:48 on 14/05/2013
I totally agree, I think The Sun should ban page 3, as a female myself, I find that it's very offensive and insulting. Why should these women lower themselves and exploit their bodies in the newspaper so it goes worldwide? It just goes to show you how much respect they have for themselves and their bodies. If they want to degrade themselves then it's up to them, but please don't put it in the paper, it's pathetic and disgusting! It makes me feel sick, i mean photos of topless women shouldn't be in The Sun. It has changed so much over the years. Why has there been more naked photos or celebs with the bums hanging out and being put in there? It is really unacceptable and rude. I truly believe the page 3 should be banned completely, if they want to show themselves off in the nude go in a porn mag, because in my opinion that's the sort of thing it is.
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19:38 on 26/04/2013
"Come for the breasts, stay for the brains". I don't like page 3, I think porn sounds demeaning, and I am sick of men thinking it's okay for them to just come up to me and touch me, or shout sexually explicit comments at me, it happens ALL the time. I don't think page 3 and porn are to blame, I agree that they are symptoms and not the cause. How about a six month hiatus in page 3 girls, just to see how it affects perceptions, crime rates (I'm guessing not much, but it would be nice!)? Let's get some humanities professors on the case to measure what, if anything would change, and then we might have some idea of whether or not we are tackling the right issue. My instinct is that even though I don't personally like to see women or men seen as if they were nothing but ornaments, I am uncomfortable with the idea of a ban as I think freedom is more important than sensibilities.
21:36 on 20/04/2013
In other words this campaign is about trying to control what other people do.
Totalitarian Nazi style.

You must feel so proud of yourself.
I have an advice for you. Just live your life the best way you can. If you have a problem supperate it, even if that requires to ask for help. But don't even try to forbid others of doing what you don't like, that is simply wrong.
07:58 on 20/03/2013
This list of arguments (1..10) are all hurtful comments and behaviours of men. They aren't about the page 3 girls. In fact, men could behave in a friendly way towards women and still have page 3 girls. I think banning page 3 won't help, the problem lies somewhere else. We should change our culture, our (men's) manners. Without page 3 there will still be plenty of sexy women to admire. Parents should teach their sons how to deal with that, and how to be nice to women (and be nice to other people in general.
13:32 on 19/03/2013
Page 3 IS harmful. I don't see how anyone can think that it isn't. It is true, it isn't going to solve all the problems with how society sees women, but it is a very good start.

And chloeg, maybe it's down to being in a relationship, but I don't feel ''drawn'' to attractive people, and I don't think sexually about them either. There has to be more about a person than just their looks to hook me in, which is why I'm not one of those girlfriends who are constantly gawping at other men, I honestly feel nothing for others. I can see if someone is attractive, but that doesn't mean I'm attracted to them, there is a difference.

I just felt that you needed correcting, because you generalize all people into one category. The only person I look at in a sexual manner is my boyfriend. You imply that all humans feel drawn towards ''attractive'' people, we are scientifically programmed to, and there are no two ways about it. Well, if I feel the complete opposite to what you describe, how many other people are there that feel differently, too? We are not 'scientifically programmed' to do anything when it comes to attraction.
22:50 on 17/03/2013
I think she only really needed to mention point 1. The rest is padding. Pun intended.
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slinkyone73
16:21 on 17/03/2013
And if you aren't bothered by people not buying it....Don't blab on about it either!!!
00:24 on 17/03/2013
I'm surprised this argument isn't directed towards porn actually. Most studies that have been carried out show that 99.9% of British/Western men watch porn - at one university they had to drop a study comparing those who did and didn't view porn because they couldn't find a single person who hadn't watched it. For the record, i don't think porn incites rape either, but I'm curious to know why this obsession with banning Page Three isn't directed towards something more explicit like hardcore porn which actually depicts sex. In a world full of hardcore images, how erotic do you think people really find Page Three these days? it's pretty tame.
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17:41 on 17/03/2013
I reckon it's because the Sun is in the mainstream and porn is porn, may be?
15:37 on 18/03/2013
Porn is in the mainstream... in the sense that most studies show about 99% of men watch it!
00:22 on 17/03/2013
The arguments for banning Page Three are so weak. Allegedly they "incite rape", even though countries where women cover up invariably have higher statistics of rape (look at the recent spate of violent gang-rapes in public in India and that's just the tip of the iceberg- no Page Three there). Sorry to hear women have had bad experiences with verbal or physical sexual harassment - this is indeed a crime - but it has nothing at all to do with topless imagery. Every single example shows that it's countries where women cover up that they are discriminated against, disrespected and treated as inferior to men.
The other argument that always comes out is that some women feel insecure because they don't match up to the girls in the newspaper.In that case, why not stop intelligent people's achievements from being reported in the news lest it upsets other, less academically endowed people? Why not ban all pictures of attractive women while we're at it, just in case less pretty girls feel bad? We'd be heading for a society of total censorship, fuelled by paranoid insecurity.
22:15 on 16/03/2013
I agree that women should not be held up as sex objects. However, my problem with banning Page 3 is that it actually infringes on women's rights.
Imagine a woman; not blessed with academic ability or any particular talent. However, she is beautiful, and has a fantastic figure. This woman has street smarts; she knows that she can make a lot of money by modelling on Page 3 and in lads' mags. She has no problem with showing her body - she always goes topless on holiday. So she decides she wants to do Page 3 to make her fortune and attain the better things in life. In saying that she can't do Page 3, when she actually wants to do it, we would be taking power away from her rather than empowering her. And, in fact, we would be oppressing her and preventing her doing what she wants to do.
That's my only problem with banning Page 3. I personally would gladly see The Sun go the way of the NOTW, but at the same time, I don't want to tell someone that they can't do what they want to do.
05:29 on 17/03/2013
If any woman wants to take her top off for money then by all means let her. In an ideal world she would not represent all other women. If she can make money that way then yes that could definitely be empowering. The thing that is disempowering is when people then make assumptions about her because of what she does i.e. she is stupid, she is 'asking for it', she is not to be taken seriously or respected. This is reinforced by the message The Sun continually provides us e.g. "Laura, 22 thinks the war in Afghanistan is bad" which is mocking her for doing what she's doing i.e. no woman who has her tits out can think intelligent thoughts. This is not empowering at all. And the idea glamour models make lots of money is a myth. The competition is fierce and the fact is you have to start lying about your age once you're 25. Jordan is an exception to the rule and I think her obvious addiction to surgery, anxiety about getting old and constant attention-seeking headlines means she exemplifies exactly how disempowering glamour modelling can be.
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17:44 on 17/03/2013
Can help thinking Jordan is glad she went topless when she was younger. She's made a fortune. How empowered would she be behind the counter at Poundstretcher or Greggs?
21:06 on 17/03/2013
I couldn't agree more. The Sun embodies everything bad about this country, not just in its treatment of women but in every way. But if a woman wants to do it, then who am I to tell her she can't? Personally, I'm not into Page 3 and would rather it not be there, but if I wanted to do something, and someone said I couldn't because - although perfectly legal - it offended their sensibilities, I would be furious.
In all honesty, I really have no idea how to solve the problem of how women are objectified - and it is a genuine problem. But as long as even one woman is happy to take her clothes off for money, there will be a market for it. It's kind of like Canut trying to hold back the tide.
It's wrong; it's immoral; but it's also a matter of civil rights.
18:03 on 16/03/2013
sexual exploitation and ridicule will always go on, not having page three may help but it won't stop the problem,
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
20:11 on 16/03/2013
So in your view, we shouldn't bother doing anything unless the result is an immediate 100% solution to the problem? That strikes me as slightly optimistic.
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17:46 on 17/03/2013
Well then let's all wear odd socks then Paul shall we. It won't have any affect, but it will allow us to pretend we're doing something.
09:05 on 17/03/2013
not having page three will help but we cannot assume that this will fix the problem, what else would you suggest we do to change the culture that we have of sexually exploiting women in this country?
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Rob Ferris
17:36 on 16/03/2013
I can't stand this backward attack.
While I want nothing to do with a rag like The Sun, Page 3 is a symptom, not a cause. Banning this "paper" from printing what it wants (incidentally, such censorship is also abhorrent), will not change to root of the problem in terms of society's perceptions surrounding women.

For example, I read just the other day about the woeful standard of sex education in many schools. Why not educate young people regarding body image, regarding porn, regarding gender in society? How about teaching people the right way of dealing with this material when they're faced with it, instead of trying to make it go away, which won't happen while these attitudes exist.

The momentum you've gained for this cause is awesome and could do some real good, but I fear it's tragically misdirected. It's like bailing water out of a boat before trying to plug the hole.
18:55 on 16/03/2013
Very good points. Unfortunately our gov has messed around pandering to an "upright" minority who think that education about sex and sexuality should be kept out of school. A shame because these are the people who either wouldn't bother with it at home out of embarrassment or would give some skewed version of little practical value. If everyone were educated (rather than taught) in a standardised way the 'playing field' would be even. But no, they think that censorship and taboo are the way forward. For all that we have the highest level of unwanted pregnancies in europe, the highest divorce rate and a lot of problems afflicting both genders.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
20:13 on 16/03/2013
The problems you describe in your last sentence exist with Page 3 in circulation. Maybe we should see what happens without?
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Thismortalcoil
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17:06 on 16/03/2013
I am always amazed people still buy the Sun. No wonder it's in decline.
16:27 on 16/03/2013
As a PS - human beings are sexual creatures. Male or female, we are all primed to respond sexually to certain imagery. Enjoying a beautiful body doesn't mean we suddenly disrespect everyone of that person's gender.