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Why I Believe Israel Is Committing War Crimes

Posted: 20/11/2012 14:04

In my opinion, Israel is a rogue state which commits war crimes. It is an aggressor state that has invaded Lebanon several times and holds a chunk of Syria illegally, but despite being the fourth most-heavily-armed country in the world has not won a war outright for 45 years, since 1967.

Its current lethal assault on Gaza, with under-reported violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank as well, is the latest in a series of such criminal assaults. Like its predecessors this is killing many innocent children, woman and men and causing horrendous damage as well. Like its predecessors it will fail.

Israel is a democracy, undeniably. But a democracy that commits war crimes is still a war criminal. It has an exceptionally right wing government, with an overtly racist foreign minister. That government has taken office on the basis of an election. This means that the Israeli electorate is complicit in its government's war crimes.

The casus belli for the latest Israeli assault is the rockets, primitive and ill-targeted though they are, that are being targeted by Hamas on southern and central Israel. Hamas is an odious organisation, whose practices I do not condone, as I pointed out to its prime minister when I led an international delegation of 60 parliamentarians from 13 European countries to Gaza the year before last. Its government is, however, a legal entity elected in a legitimate election, as certified by international observers: an election far more legitimate than that which brought George W Bush to the White House in 2000.

It is the refusal of the international community to have dealings with the Hamas government which has been a factor in the aggressive acts committed by Hamas. Those aggressive acts are a small proportion of aggressive acts carried out by the Israeli government. Both the international community and the Israeli government ignore the maxim uttered by the former Israeli foreign minister, Abba Eban, who said: "You make peace by talking to your enemy." That is a maxim, observed by both Conservative and Labour governments in Britain, which brought peace to Northern Ireland after decades of terrorism and counter-terrorism.

No country in the world could get away so easily with slaughter, destruction and repression as the Israeli government has committed and is committing in Gaza and the West Bank: the blockade of Gaza, the hundreds of checkpoints in the West Bank, the illegal wall built within Palestinian territory on the West Bank, the illegal Jewish settlements - inhabited by half a million - which are entangled almost inextricably on the West Bank, the driving of Palestinians out of Jerusalem so that their population in that city has been amputated exponentially. The world does nothing about these crimes, daunted by the cynical Israeli exploitation of continuing guilt about the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust.

The Israeli government believes that it can continue to get away with its crimes. It very well may, for a period. But the example of South Africa, an apartheid state which thought that it could, permanently, get away with murder, shows that there is never any such thing as a status quo. As the Greeks said in ancient times: 'Panta rhei' - 'Everything flows.' The craven sanctimony of Barack Obama and the European Union will not sustain Israeli policy forever. The sad fact is that, when the reckoning comes, the two-state solution, recited as a rote by Western foreign ministries, will no longer be an option. What Israel has sowed and is sowing, it will reap.

 
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In my opinion, Israel is a rogue state which commits war crimes. It is an aggressor state that has invaded Lebanon several times and holds a chunk of Syria illegally, but despite being the fourth most...
In my opinion, Israel is a rogue state which commits war crimes. It is an aggressor state that has invaded Lebanon several times and holds a chunk of Syria illegally, but despite being the fourth most...
 
 
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11:18 PM on 12/27/2012
I suggest doing an internet search on two topics:

US Politicians who hold dual Israeli/American citizenship, who lead us to war.
and
US Politicians tied to Goldman Sachs, who run the country
04:47 PM on 12/10/2012
Sir Gerald Kaufman I salute your bravery,
The palastinian Christains and Muslins desperately need help. They are not the screaming foaming at the mouth hamas types picked out by the telly but very ordinary people being slowly crushed by a power that seems to deny basic humanity to anyone not jewish
11:47 AM on 12/07/2012
Is this the same Israel that has many Arabs lively safely and securely inside of its borders.

The same Israel that on the very first day of its re establishment in 1948 a coalition of Arab neighbours Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria & Iraqu told all the Arabs living in Israel to leave, as they the Arabs were going to wipe Isreal from the face of the earth as a dish cloth wipes a dish clean. And once they had dealt with them they would be able to move back into Israel.

Then most of the Arab nations expelled the Jews living in their countries,these displace Jews were assimulated by Israel. But the Arabs that the Arabs told to leave were not assimulated by Arab conutries why not?
11:00 PM on 11/29/2012
Mr Kaufman, (I believe in equality not ridiculous titles like 'sir')

What do you think of the apartheid state of Saudi Arabia which bans all religions other than Islam?
What do you think of the apartheid state of Turkey which is occupying Northern Cyprus and refuses to admit to its ethnic cleansing and genocide against Greeks and Armenians?
What do you think of the apartheid state of Sudan which has committed multiple genocides against its indigenous African communities?
12:01 PM on 11/26/2012
Thousands of people gathered in London on Saturday and marched to the Israeli embassy, calling for an end to the occupation of Palestinian land and a peaceful settlement. It wasn't an anti-Jewish protest. Not a word about it in the local or national media. What does that say about Zionist influence in this country? There are people out there who are bought and sold for Zionist gold. There should be another Leveson to look into it.
11:34 AM on 11/26/2012
I am not Jewish. Should Israel allow itself to be bombed by rockets? Hamas ( as chief rabbi Sacks pointed out), is being supplied with rockets by Iran via Syria.Yet "Sir" Gerald Kaufman does not mention this....why?
I agree that Israel is dominated by right wing / extremist groups and something has to be done about this.....through the ballot box!!! Israel has the right to defend itself and use overwhelming force if need be. They are not playing cricket....this is war with Iran by proxy. Should Israel let itself be attacked? "Sir" Gerald Kaufman is utterly deluded in my view.
Israel is fighting for its survival.
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06:27 PM on 11/26/2012
i AM jewish. of course we should let ourselves be bombed, shelled, stoned (with rocks, not the other one) - we are - after all - an abomination, and our state a mere commie virus full of godless perverts. all we are really waiting for is sir geoff to make aliya so he can serve on our next government alongside deri, olmert and others of his ilk.
10:20 AM on 11/26/2012
"...with under-reported violence against Palestinians in the OCCUPIED West Bank as well..."

Who occupied or who were occupied, this is just a point of view. Well here's my point of view about different but similar issue:

My country, Turkey, is being and unfortunately will be occupied by arabian-islamist terrorist population and doctrines(i.e brainwashing) which steal this country's efforts and money which should be directed toward TURKish prosperity instead of choosing a side in a war that is not our business and that brings nothing but poisoning Turkish people's minds with middle-east-origin lies and taking billions of dollars away.

So what do you say about that Sir Gerald?
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12:02 PM on 11/25/2012
QUOTE: “In my opinion, Israel is a rogue state which commits war crimes.”

Yes, Sir Gerald, it is your OPINION. That does not make it a fact.

QUOTE: “It is an aggressor state that has invaded Lebanon several times

Just like that. No just cause? No reaction to terrorist and rocket attacks? You may disagree with the decisions taken – like many Israelis – but denial of real concerns about the physical safety of Israeli citizens, threatened daily, as they were by groups found in Lebanon, is misrepresentation. These wars were quite clearly reactive.

Has the UK never fought a reactive War? The Falklands, Iraq, Afghanistan? Does that make the UK, in whose House of Commons you sit, an aggressor state?

QUOTE: “and holds a chunk of Syria illegally”

Chunk of Syria – the Golan - military strategic heights. But there are also movements within Israel who would happily return these to Syria. Why has this not happened? Apart from the obvious political differences within Israeli society that need to be reconciled – to whom should they be returned? Syria does not recognise the State of Israel. How do you negotiate with someone who denies your existence? Or, in other words, how does Sir Alex transfer Rooney to a team who won’t even visit Old Trafford?

QUOTE: “but despite being the fourth most-heavily-armed country in the world has not won a war outright for 45 years, since 1967.”

If they HAD won? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
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11:52 AM on 11/25/2012
I agree, lets rescind the Balfour agreement and start again as this as this hideous and unfair experiment is never going to deliver anything apart form injustice to the original inhabitants of Palestine.
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06:13 PM on 11/26/2012
wasnt an agreement but a promise made in return for jewish help during WW1. at the same time the brits went and sent of the macmillan memorandum which promised the same block of land to someone else.
see. it all began with a british two-faced scam coz they wanted to ensure their shipping.
08:41 AM on 12/07/2012
True. But as all the history books (Except the Arab history books) will tell you, when the name Palestine was coined by the Romans 2000 years ago, all the inhabitants (including a Mr. Jesus) were Jewish. But, I think it's unfair to kick all the Arabs out. After all, many of them are very happy living in and contributing to Israeli Society.
11:49 AM on 11/25/2012
I agree, we should rescind the Balfour agreement and start again as this hideous and unfair experiment will never end in anything other than misery for the original inhabitants of Palestine.
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06:14 PM on 11/26/2012
and saying it twice aint gonna make it truer.
where r those HP censors when it comes to plain everyday editting?
08:46 AM on 11/25/2012
As expected, the 'Hasbara' arrive on-cue and en-masse to splatter the comment space with pro-Israeli propaganda. The tone of the messages all sound the same. Filled with carefully selected facts and the compulsory rubbishing of the other side's motivations. They even have the same message length - not too long, not too short. Like as if the commenting effort is mass produced. Oh, I believe it is!

Come on Israel, if you're going to 'astroturf' you're gonna have to do a lot better than this.
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06:15 PM on 11/26/2012
hey - if u kan, so kan i.
only difference is some of us knows wot we'z talkin about.
11:03 PM on 11/29/2012
Tom McCann is a strange name for a Muslim to have. Why don't you mention all of the Islamic groups such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Heb ut Tahrir, all of whom have internet activists.

Why don't you take an interest in all of the Arab and Islamic states which are apartheid states.

As a neutral, I have nothing to fear from Israel. As a neutral, I have much to fear from Islamic extremists.
08:36 AM on 11/25/2012
Gerald get someone to open your mail. Mossad are on their way.
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06:15 PM on 11/26/2012
and find wot? pix of little children in awkward positions?
05:45 AM on 11/25/2012
People forget that palastine is an Arab state which was taken from then during the British empire reign, during the start of WW1 the British signed Palestine over to the Jews so that they would bring USA into the war, this was known as the Belford declaration, after ww1 the British went into palastine to drive the Arabs out so that Jews could settle there, the war continues today but other reasons have been made up for the continued battles. Check your history before blaming Arab nations for the continued Jewish percicutions .
11:02 AM on 11/25/2012
Check your own history first. For a start Palestine was not an "arab nation" before the British arrived as there was no such thing. The British took the area from the Ottomans. The Balfour (not Belford) declaration was a political support for zionism but not to bring the US into world war I (the British took Palestine in 1917 after the US had joined and were given the madate to rule paelstine in 1919, after the war). There were already a large number of Jews in Palestine before the British came but more came after WWII following their release from the death camps. The British suggested a partition based on populations which the Jews accepted but the Arabs rejected (ironically on the basis that they wanted to be part of Syria or Egypt and saw the idea of "Palestine" as a Zionist plot). As a result both sides tried to grab as much land as they could with the British unable to interfere. I do not claim either Israeli or Arab allegiance but your post just smacks of antisemitism and historical inaccuracy
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01:38 PM on 11/25/2012
QUOTE: “…historical inaccuracy.”

Seems to be the norm on this subject.

QUOTE: “The British suggested a partition based on populations…”

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine.

The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem.

On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181.
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06:19 PM on 11/26/2012
and yor spelink (try writing first ihn word, spellchecking then copy paste.. quite simple).
anyhowz, to get the story straighter: moslem palestinian arabs - a turkish import of railway construction workers, coz the local orthodox jews were too lazy to work and the bedouins stole raw materials. there were some christian villages, mainly upkeeping 'holy' sites, but these have over the years been annihilated by their precious moslem neighbors - especially in the palestinian authority and by jordan pre 67. .
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11:08 AM on 11/25/2012
Get the name's right - Balfour Declaration - before pretending a knowledge of history.
04:17 PM on 11/24/2012
What a disgusting, evil, untrue picture this MP is painting. Well he is an MP, so no one should take what he is saying as being true, or even worthwhile of consideration really. Typically, he will be pandering what he thinks is a majority position to keep as many people as possible voting for him. Perhaps he should spend some time in Israel, in the south, and see how he feels being rocketted continuously. But that is not going to happen - he can't let truth and reality get in the way of his popularity drive to secure another 4-5 year term of easy living of the backs of hard working tax payers.
11:39 PM on 11/24/2012
yeah, you are mossad!
12:00 AM on 11/25/2012
That has to be the most shallow comment I have seen on here for ages. So if I am Mossad, are you Hamas?
09:31 AM on 11/25/2012
You do not like the truth,do you? I was pleasently surprised at his comments,it make a change to see a politician telling the truth! He was spot on in his comments,the biggest danger to peace in tghe middle-east is Israel with Iran a close second.
12:46 PM on 11/25/2012
I love truth - but truth based on reality and facts, not made up "truth" to suit someone's agenda. Sadly the biggest threat to Middle East peace is people like you who blindly follow the dogmatic rantings of left-biased, Israel hating, popularity seeking, backward looking, terrorist supporting, reality blind, democracy theatening individuals and organisations who rely on people believeing what they read, hear and see from them, rather than looking into the facts and discovering the truth themselves. Here is a fact for you, taken from the Hamas Charter - Surat Al-Imran (III), verses 109-111 "Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors". How do you deal with that one?