European Referendum: What Has The EU Ever Done For Us?

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Huffington Post UK   First Posted: 25/10/11 19:11 Updated: 26/10/11 12:17

Tory MPs calling for a referendum on the UK’s membership of the European Union may have been voted down in the Commons, but their rhetoric – that the UK is giving up sovereignty to a dysfunctional union that drains the country’s resources through red tape and regulation – is persistent.

Right wing papers - long the source of dubiously accurate stories on the acceptable curvatures of bananas - talk of a “rising tide” of popular sentiment against Brussels. In the face of such vitriol, counting the benefits of membership of the free trade area is an unpopular hobby.

Baron Roger Liddle, chairman of the Policy Network, Tony Blair’s former adviser on Europe and an "ardent pro-European", told the Huffington Post UK that the benefits of European membership were manifold, and that the rift between the government and the Tory back bench damages the UK's ability to negotiate on the very issues the eurosceptics complain about.

"There’s a fundamental contradiction in the British position, and that contradiction is that we have to recognize the eurozone is going to get together and have closer governance if it’s going to survive," Liddle said. "The government is clear when it says ‘we have got to stay as close to that as possible. If we don’t, we won’t be at the table when questions like the single market, the future of regulation of the City of London, tax regulation, are decided."

If - or when - the eurozone manages to coalesce towards some form of fiscal federalism, it will cooperate much more closely on these microeconomic matters, Liddle said.

"We can’t avoid that, so we’ve got to be very close to them, which I think is David Cameron’s first instinct, which is a sensible, pragmatic instinct, and what the Tory backbenchers want, which is repatriation of powers and a looser relationship," he added. "I don’t see how the coalition government is going to ride these two horses at once – one horse bolting in one direction and the other bolting in another."

The UK exported nearly £143bn worth of goods and services to the EU in 2010, compared to £121bn to the rest of the world.

The United States is the largest single importer of UK goods and services, with £37 billion worth in 2010, but the next seven of the country’s bilateral trade partners are EU members: Germany (£28bn), the Netherlands (£21bn), France (£20bn), the Irish Republic (£16bn), Belgium (£13bn), Spain (£10bn) and Italy (£9bn).

The UK exports more to EU member Sweden (£5bn) than it does to emerging market powerhouse India (£4bn).

Exports to the 12 new member states in 2009 were worth £11.7bn, against £4.5bn a decade earlier.

Figures from the European Commission say that between 1992 and 2006, the single market increased the EU’s prosperity by 2.15 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) and created 2.75m extra jobs.

Research from the UK’s own Department for Business, Innovation and Skills said that the single market has led to European countries trading with each other twice as much as they would without the trade zone being in place. Membership may be responsible for income gains of between £1,100 and £3,300 per year per British household.

Some critics maintain, however, that the adoption of the single market has actually held back the development of the UK’s trade relations with the rest of the world.

“I think initially the single market was expected to be of huge benefit to free trade, but it turned out to be a bit of a trap. It was an excuse to introduce controls and regulation from the centre,” Dr Richard Wellings from the Institute of Economic Affairs, a free market think tank, said. “It’s rigged patterns of trade so that the UK is forced to or incentivised to trade with Europe, rather than the rest of the world.”

Tariff barriers for agricultural products, and non-tariff barriers - such as environmental and health and safety regulations – for manufactured goods mean that lower priced goods from outside of the EU are not available, he added.

The trade balance with the EU is actually negative, with the UK importing £43bn more than it exported to the union in 2010. That balance is skewed by Germany’s manufacturing-led economy, which sends £17bn more to the UK than it imports from it.

By contrast, the trade balance with China is far heavier weighted. The UK imports £28bn worth of goods from China, versus exports of just £7bn.

“It’s a highly corporatist system, where the big European companies have captured regulation and used it to shut out competitors from the rest of the world,” Wellings said. “The car industry builds new plants in the Czech Republic or Spain, instead of going to the really cheap places in India or China. The reason they do that is because of all these EU barriers to trade.”

“It’s a fake market and a false economy,” Wellings said.

The UK remains the top destination in Europe for foreign direct investment (FDI). According to figures from the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development, the country attracted more than $1 trillion of FDI stock in 2010. Nearly half of that was from within the EU.

Global businesses – both large and small - have used the UK as a hub to invest across the EU, taking advantage of the country’s membership. Companies from other Anglophone and Common Law jurisdictions routinely headquarter their European operations in the UK for ease of operation.

Because of the lack of a counterfactual, it is likely to be impossible to comprehensively prove that membership of the single market has been a net benefit to Britain, or if it really has held back the country’s growth. Few EU insiders are willing to publicly talk about the UK’s apparent rejection of the union’s benefits, but privately they express frustration. Anti-EU sentiment is far less widespread on the mainland, where politicians have been slightly better at articulating the benefits to their electorates.

Some current and former “eurocrats” note that the UK needs the EU in the same way that France needs the EU - as a waning global power that needs the increased scale, security and bargaining power of a union that, while it has many differences, broadly shares Britain’s values.

"If the United Kingdom seriously wants to repatriate powers on things like social and employment legislation, or if it wants to pull out of the charter for fundamental rights, it will have to pay a high price to achieve those negotiating objectives," Liddle said. "In other words, it will have to sacrifice... the objective, which should be to be as close as possible on the issues that are of vital importance to us."

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wolf2012
alive & well
09:32 on 27/10/2011
This discussion is completely obsolete - because maybe, and only maybe about 5% of British voters support such a ridiculous move. However, continental Europeans have asked this question for more than a decade. THe British are highly unpopular always demanding special status, i.e. paying much less than it should - but benfiting in full from the EU. So readers, do not be fooled by reports that suggest such a nonsense. Only if the world allows the financial sector to control economy and politics even more would USA and Britain consider to join forces - for the benefit of the financial sector, not you! Who in their right mind would want this?
11:23 on 26/10/2011
The reason we are at this place is because we have two sections of society who would seem to be united, but in fact want different things;

One wants an end to (or reduction of) immigration and seemingly ridiculous court judgements.

The other, The Tories and UKIP and their paymasters, want an end to employment regulations so we can maximise profits and minimise employee rights. They are content to give the impression that they are all about making Britain Great again, but really it's all about profits.

All I hear the Tories keen to re-negociate is time directives and so on, not immigration laws or rights legislation. Don't tell me that is what the average voter thinks is the most important issue.

They are content to play the Eurosceptic card to get the votes, but do you see your referendum?
11:54 on 26/10/2011
Quote: "One wants an end to (or reduction of) immigratio­n and seemingly ridiculous court judgements­."

I doubt that leaving the EU would solve either. I don't believe that UK membership of a trading block would be possible without the freedom of movement of labour. As for court judgements I suspect that you mean the European Court on Human Rights which is not an EU court.

Quote: "an end to employment regulation­s so we can maximise profits"

Not only that but, during the Referendum debate, a senior Tory wanted to de-regulate the financial services market! I thought that everyone, included the Tories, was slamming Labour for its lack of regulation of the financial sector now they want to go back and be even more lax.
12:19 on 26/10/2011
Personally I agree with you totally. I am neither Europhile or Eurosceptic. I am neither a lawyer or an economist so realistically have to rely on second or third hand info and I don't think it is logically sensible to take a hard stance based upon this.

My point is that the public interest in this issue is over immigration, rights legislation and hard contribution, whereas the political interest is over employment law. The Tories and UKIP are a proxy for business interest and a lot of people who think they are on their side are in for a huge shock.
10:24 on 26/10/2011
"Anti-EU sentiment is far less widespread on the mainland, where politicians have been slightly better at articulating the benefits to their electorates."
Well, I would estimate, that 70% of the Germans would prefer to leave today rather than tomorrow.
The "so called" big profit for Germany is nothing but a Myth. We lost 500 billion Euro through higher interest payments, plus the loss of Currency trade through the Bundesbank, plus all hidden payments for French and other farmers. Big subsidies for countless corrupt projects in Eastern Europe.
The EU is a project from the Elites against the will of the people. People were not asked. And remember. In those three countries were people had the right to vote, the treaty of Lisbon was rejected. Egon Bahr, a man who should know, said in public TV, that the Lisbon treaty was written ba the Bilderberger. This is a War of the Capitalist elites against the people of Europe. Merkel has lost any support.
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Chris Burgess
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06:52 on 26/10/2011
Stopped the Third World War.
18:09 on 26/10/2011
Could also be the reason one may start if the finacial crisis becomes interventionist as people begin to feel bullied.

Historically I think you will find it was the common enemy and fear of the USSR and the formation of the NATO alliance that stopped european countries of tearing each other to bits again rather than the EU!
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novelist2000
veritas non olet
05:52 on 26/10/2011
Britain does not fit in the EU because she considers herself special or above everyone else, entitled to cherry pick.

If you don't like house rules, why not go elsewhere? Let's face it, British allegiances are to the US, why not leave the EU and join the US of A. Don't waste everyone's time claiming special conditions.
18:13 on 26/10/2011
Britain doe not fit due to vast cultural difference least of all we are born free rather than having freedom qualified and bestowed by the state, our legal sytem is, or was, at odds with how law is practised on the continent etc etc . As for being aligned to the US this is just as much as a sham as is our membership of the EU.
Michael II
Neither the one, nor the only
08:58 on 27/10/2011
"we are born free rather than having freedom qualified and bestowed by the state, our legal sytem is, or was, at odds with how law is practised on the continent etc etc "

I wish I knew what you are referring to.
00:38 on 26/10/2011
Dr Wellings' example about the auto factories is disingenious. One builds cars in Europe where the market is. The factories provide employment and the workers [as well as the people who sell them services] buy cars. Yes, it is possible to build cars cheaper in India but after exproting them [added cost] to a depressed market [fewer jobs, less disposable income] will it be so profitable? Surely it makes better sense to build the cars for the European market in Europe and cars for the Indian market in India, etc., etc.

I suppose it will ultimately be possible to build entirely automated assembly lines. But when there are no jobs, who will buy the cars? The factories will have no reason to exist. The race to the bottom destroys economies. In the long run everyone loses. Economies and ultimately civilisations will fall and have to be reinvented from scratch. For what purpose? Short term gain?
00:19 on 26/10/2011
The most important point is probably the last one,

"Some current and former “eurocrats” note that the UK needs the EU in the same way that France needs the EU - as a waning global power that needs the increased scale, security and bargaining power of a union that, while it has many differences, broadly shares Britain’s values."

The world is still largely run by great powers. The old bipolar system (USA v USSR) has given way to a multipolar system which includes the USA, China, Russia, India and Brazil. Individual European states will have trouble negotiating favorable outcomes in economics, trade and security due to stark differences in power with their economic competitors. We will either be a player or an economic battleground for the real powers.
Michael II
Neither the one, nor the only
09:00 on 27/10/2011
Look at how easily Russia already picks off countries when it comes to gas deals.
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NoMercy
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20:30 on 25/10/2011
"According to figures from the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development, the country attracted more than $1 trillion of FDI stock in 2010. Nearly half of that was ..."

Can someone finish this sentence please?
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20:25 on 25/10/2011
"The trade balance with the EU is actually negative, with the UK importing £43bn more than it exported to the union in 2010. That balance is skewed by Germany’s manufacturing-led economy, which sends £17bn more to the UK than it imports from it.

By contrast, the trade balance with China is far heavier weighted. The UK imports £28bn worth of goods from China, versus exports of just £7bn." - terrible
21:28 on 25/10/2011
The more significant statistic is:

"The UK exports more to EU member Sweden (£5bn) than it does to emerging market powerhouse India (£4bn)."

The belief amount the "out" crowd is that the UK could make up for losing business with the EU with business with the old Commonwealth. India with 1 billion people would be a prime target but it is highly protectionist as typified by its refusal to even let Airbus 380s land because local carriers would be disadvantaged.

Why would India make concessions to access a market of 60 million when there is a market of 600 million in the EU? As usual a europhobe fantasy.
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LLCoolCal
19:39 on 25/10/2011
I dont mind the EU as long as it stuck to its original idea of goods and services etc
but since then we have brussels dictating to our courts, and being able to live and move anywhere has caused huge issues in Britain

after all Norway and the Swiss are doing quite nicely and they are not in the EU.
I for one would have voted OUT (but my government that I appointed, ignored me)
21:14 on 25/10/2011
Quote: "we have brussels dictating to our courts"

I assume you mean the European Court of Human Rights, which is not an EU Court.

Quote: "after all Norway and the Swiss are doing quite nicely"

And how are the economies of these small countries similar to the UK? By the way, Norway is a better implementer of EU directives than the UK but has no say in the final outcome. Is that what you want for the UK?
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
19:31 on 25/10/2011
Something approaching a rational analysis of the pros and cons of EU membership. A rare bird indeed. Thank you Mr Guest.
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scsfoxrabbit
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20:24 on 25/10/2011
I don't see anything rational in Welling's europhobic analysis
02:42 on 25/11/2011
Agreed, an analysis of the EU is only rational if it sings its praises and completely ignores any problems. Especially when it comes to trade. The concept of trade diversion is too inconvenient to feature in any rational discussion of the EU.