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Girls at the Olympics

Posted: 08/08/2012 00:00

One of the things that I have found rather disturbing and depressing about the Olympics is how often the commentators refer to the women competing as "girls". I occasionally hear male competitors referred to as "boys", but most often they are "men". So why are women treated so disrespectfully?

"Girl" is a term for human females from birth through adolescence. It's true that some people use it for women in an affectionate way (my grandmother, who is about to turn 90, might talk about having lunch with "the girls" or might refer to her 60-something daughters as "girls"), but generally, when it is employed for women in their late teens and older, it seems disparaging. This is because it makes women seem younger and weaker and less able than they actually are.

This happens in society at large, and not just at the Olympics, but given how public the Olympics are, it seems a shame that women are still regarded as being less than men. A recent New Yorker magazine cover by Frank Viva exemplifies this.

His piece is called "London 2012" and it shows nine stylised athletes. All nine figures are male. Considering how historic the London Olympics actually are in terms of gender equality - this is the first year in which men and women are competing from every single country, which is a major achievement - it seems quite odd that Viva and the New Yorker promote the idea that the Olympics are about men.

But then again, if women are viewed as "girls" - while males are full-grown "men" - their contributions to the Olympics, among many other events, would naturally be downgraded, and perhaps seen as "sweet" or "cute" rather than "impressive" or as the culmination of many years of relentless effort and exertion.

Women have worked so hard to attain the rights they have, and of course the fight for equality is far from over. At stake here is the right to be respected and treated fairly, regardless of gender. Using the term "girl" diminishes women; it makes them seem to be children, and that in turn suggests that they need to be protected and taken care of, most likely by men. Women, as opposed to girls, do not require men to make decisions for them or to watch over them; women are adults with commensurate rights and responsibilities.

It's time to drop the usage of "girl" for anyone but young females and to begin recognising women for who and what they actually are.

 

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05:59 PM on 08/13/2012
Actually I think the point you really need to be making is not one about who calls what whom, but in effect the women who shone through at the Olympic Games! Weren't they brilliant! Victoria Pendleton, cyclist Laura Trott, Charlotte Dugardin, Jessica Ennis, Jade Jones, Joanna Rowsell.... the list goes on. Then there's the first women to attend from Saudi Arabia and the USA women's relay who broke a record. These female athletes acted as wonderful role models rather than the usual celebrities that get wheeled out. So celebrate this - these women didn't make a big song and dance about their win. They were gracious and humble. This is what needs to be celebrated. The Women of the Olympic Games. Don't sweat the small stuff and give some praise to that which speaks volumes.
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sabelmouse
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12:03 PM on 08/12/2012
it's very common , isn't it, to refer to woman as girls and to men as men even if they're still quite young everywhere. we even do it ourselves.
it's so ingrained. in music, books, films. women always stay not fully grow and if they do they're old battle axes.
it seems to run very deep that.
01:39 PM on 08/10/2012
I am seeing a bit about this. I hear women commentators referring to the men as boys. This is another example to me that many "women" simply need to grow up.
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Seaniebhoy
01:57 PM on 08/09/2012
I think it all depends on the event....in gymnastics most of the female competitors are in their late teens so I would say it's appropriate to call it girls gymnastics...where as the football team is mostly in their 20's so it's called women's football.
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10:00 AM on 08/09/2012
I don't find the use of "girls" pejorative as I use it myself, along with "boys" and "lads". It denotes youth, vitality and,often, a zest for life which may not be associated with "woman" or "man". I think you are nit-picking here.
Far more disturbing and detrimental to the cause of equality or feminism is the way in which women
set out to decry or mock their own sex for shallow reasons. Take, as an example, the notion of a style expert, paid to ridicule the clothes' choices of other women. You don't have to go far from this section to see what I mean.
Why not write an article about the degradation of women by women?
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10:04 AM on 08/09/2012
Oh dear, why does HP show 0 PENDING long after you've submitted a post when in fact your previous attempt is pending?
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sabelmouse
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12:04 PM on 08/12/2012
it's either not working or they dumped your comment in never land.
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09:34 AM on 08/09/2012
I don't find the use of "girls" pejorative as I freely use "boys" or "lads" as the counterpart. If anything, when I use these terms it is to denote youth and vitality and a zest for life - not normally the attributes of older people. They can be attractive terms.

What is far more detrimental to the cause of equality or feminism is the disgusting way in which women betray their own sex. Look ,for example, at the Lifestyle section of HP and its editor is putting pics of women/young girls up and pulling them to bits over what they are wearing. She has set herself up as a style expert and takes it upon herself to belittle other women for their clothes' choices.
Why not write an article about that?
concodtob
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07:42 PM on 08/08/2012
What a load of PC nonsense. I refer to men as boys and women as girls, it's got nothing to with sexism. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole-hill out of nothing. I've heard many women refer to men as boys - is that sexist? Ridiculous.
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sabelmouse
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12:05 PM on 08/12/2012
it's not really about what YOU do .
concodtob
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12:10 PM on 08/12/2012
And what do YOU mean by that statement?
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David Daisy May Boldock
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12:54 PM on 08/12/2012
With you all the way and concur with your statement. I tend to use the word lass to many women, and that never gets any complaints. Probably see that as flattery, but as you say PC Pedantics as per usual getting in the way!
concodtob
16 stone athlete and intellectual
01:12 PM on 08/12/2012
I thought that this particular thread which likens the affectionate term "girls" as being sexist when being applied to women, absolutely ludicrous.

You can imagine how robotic society would be if these Pc adherents were completely in charge.
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Daviejohn
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04:04 PM on 08/08/2012
It is an outdated pejorative term that is past its sale by date. To title anything when referring to women as'Girls' is a patronising expression used mainly by a masculine media when being seemingly dismissive of the gender.
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Seaniebhoy
01:58 PM on 08/08/2012
Ireland's Katie Taylor had the loudest atmosphere of the entire Boxing events for both men and women.
01:12 PM on 08/08/2012
So you've heard men being referred to as boys but that is somehow different?

I have seen pictures of Jessica Ennis more often than pictures of anyone else, including Chris Hoy or Bradley Wiggins. From this I deduce that the Olympics, the BBC and the general public are all massive sexists and should be, ooh, er, I don't know, stopped somehow.

Get a grip.