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Controlling Immigration Means Reform to Human Rights Legislation

Posted: 20/12/11 00:00 GMT

Last week the House of Commons held a general debate on the issue of immigration. This provided a welcome opportunity to address the very real concerns that the British public is expressing about immigration. There has been a tendency in recent years for mainstream political parties to run scared of addressing it - indeed it was telling that with the exception of the Labour front bench, all the contributors were Conservative members.

The failure of mainstream political parties to properly tackle this subject in debate has led the public to conclude that we are out of touch with their very real concerns. Furthermore, that failue has left a vacuum which parties with more sinister motives have been only to happy to fill.

I am proud of this country and of the liberties we enjoy. I am proud that we give a safe haven to those fleeing persecution. I am also proud that Britain is seen as a beacon of freedom and opportunity and that so many people would wish to pursue their lives here.

But the simple truth is that we have allowed levels of migration beyond the point that our society can manage. This brings with it a risk to social cohesion and risks the liberal values that we as Britons take for granted. I cherish those values most dearly. Without a mature debate in this country about the consequences of immigration we will cede the ground to nationalism.

In my experience this is not an issue which divides communities on the basis of race - unless that is that the only people addressing it are those with racist values. In my experience some of the biggest critics of the way migration has been handled are our established ethnic minority communities who are fully integrated into society. The problems associated with immigration are about volume and criminality, not race

This government is taking steps to limit legal migration, but the tools they have employed will have limited impact on those who are happy to break the law. Of the 200 cases I have handled since becoming a Member of Parliament, half of them relate to people who have broken the immigration rules in some way and have no right to remain in the UK.

However few of them actually leave. I have cases going back 10 years. If the application is rejected they just disappear and resurface with a new application. I believe that the government needs to do more to improve enforcement. I also believe that the government needs to review the operation of the Human Rights Act which is getting in the way of the UK Border Agency doing its job.

I have one lady who entered the UK in 1992 with a counterfeit passport which she used to gain employment. She stayed and put in an application for leave to remain in 2006 which was refused. She reapplied in 2010. This lady has never had any leave to be in this country so I ask why is she still here, particularly when she has been found to have used false papers.

The Great British public do understand that any measures that government takes to curb immigration cannot tackle the numbers coming from the EU. It is this migration which cause them most concern, particularly the impact on jobs. I am also concerned at the opportunity for benefit tourism on the part of EU nationals.

Freedom of movement under the EU not only allows for uncontrolled migration from EU
member states, it also opens up new avenues for abuse when added to the Human Rights Act.

The Human Rights Act and the right to a family life has fuelled the idea that all you need to do is have a baby and that you get to stay. But of course the right to a family life does not require a baby. I had one chap who was given leave to remain because of his Eastern European fiance. And it becomes more certain if there is a spouse. The UK Border Agency has recently had some success in tackling sham marriage which is welcome, but it illustrates just how widespread this abuse is. It is now so common and concentrated in particular register offices and churches, as to suggest that there are some people making a lot of money out of this.

Many voters believe that migrants are coming over here to live off our benefits. I try and reassure them that is not the case, but there are too many cases of benefit fraud and illegal activity, all of which indicate that there are many people here who shouldn't be and who are taking Britain for a soft touch. This must not be allowed to continue.

Recently we had a case of a Morrocan immigrant who claimed to be an Afghan Asylum seeker who managed to claim over £400,000 in disability benefits, not to mention carers allowances for members of his family. He was caught for benefit fraud, having been witnessed dancing at a wedding but was subsequently found to have been here illegally. Having convicted him, he should be deported. It exasperates me that the taxpayer continues to foot the bill for this man.
He is incarcerated in a British prison having appealed against deportation under the Human Rights Act.

The case illustrates that bogus asylum claims are another route to entry. The system cannot establish the veracity of claims soon enough. The backlog of asylum cases means that now many of whose asylum claim has not been upheld are applying for leave to remain on Human rights grounds, due to the length of their stay. I have one constituent who arrived here in 1999, had his asylum claim rejected in 2000 but last year he made an application for leave to remain on human rights grounds due to long residency in the UK, despite the fact he had no entitlement to be here. This is treating the British legal system with contempt. It also illustrates that death and destruction are just another opportunity for those people determined to get into our country and exploit our goodwill. But more depressing is the impact that has on genuine asylum seekers and the sympathy with which they are viewed.

And some of our European neighbours are fuelling this resentment by their failure to do their bit to support refugees.

One lady and her three children risked life and limb to get to this country in the back of a container. It was the final shift at Tilbury before Christmas and the team were about to knock off when someone said just one more. Unloading the container they found, frozen within inches of their lives, this lady and her three children. They are lucky to be alive. But this lady had passed through France and ought to have been returned there. She I am advised that she is now living in a flat in Bristol

Many who come to see me have been here illegally for a number of years. I ask them how they are supporting themselves given that they are not allowed to work. Friends and family they say - I think it a fair assumption they are working illegally. My constituency includes the Port of Tilbury where there is a line of business exporting second hand cars. A number of these have been found to be trafficked by illegal immigrants, but it is impossible for the authorities at the port to check every single one.

Quite often the Border Agency simply lose touch with them. We therefore cannot begin to quantify with any accuracy the number of people who are here who should not be. There are some clear failings on the part of the UKBA, but I do believe they are overwhelmed by the size of the task and undermined by bad legislation. The Human Rights Act is getting in the way of them doing their job.

So I hope the government will review the Human Rights Act. Until then the Border Agency will be fighting illegal immigration with one arm tied behind its back and public concern about immigration will remain.

 
Last week the House of Commons held a general debate on the issue of immigration. This provided a welcome opportunity to address the very real concerns that the British public is expressing about immi...
Last week the House of Commons held a general debate on the issue of immigration. This provided a welcome opportunity to address the very real concerns that the British public is expressing about immi...
 
 
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07:26 PM on 01/18/2012
We may as well let all and sundry in now,as its far too late for border controls. This ssue should have been addressed 50 years ago.
07:11 PM on 01/18/2012
People and do-gooders like yourself have made Britains citys the cess-pits of Europe.
10:57 AM on 01/05/2012
How many refugees can England absorb? Left wingers advocate unlimited migration in order to undermine the free economies of the West and silly liberals follow the same line as a result of misplaced humanitari­anism. The question that people who disagree with Doyle-Price refuse to answer is "When is enough, enough?"
The fact that poverty and civil wars might be good reasons for people to try to abandon their homelands doesn't mean that England has to accept those who can't face up to solving their domestic problems and who bring nothing with them except financial demands, alien cultures, and the potential for social and religious strife. The supply of migrants is virtually inexhausti­ble - the capacity to accommodat­e, let alone absorb, them is limited.
The bottom line is that at some point England must accept that foreign government­s are responsibl­e for their own people. Charity begins at home and we need to stop pouring so called aid into the coffers of countries that spend billions on armaments whilst leaving their own poor in dire straits. Perhaps those who dislike what Doyle-Price says might think differently when they find themselves working until they are over 70 years old in order to support benefits for economic migrants and the foreign aid and refugee budgets.
12:32 PM on 01/01/2012
A Sponge can only take in so much water. Great Britain has taken in more than enough and now the water has become to flood out, the sluice gates have to close and they should have been closed 50 Years ago. Enoch was RIGHT! The damage is done and we have to start a major task in doing what is Right for this land and its people. There will never be ETHNIC CLEANSING but there will have to be some changes in Immigratio­n our Law System, NHS, Education, Public Transport, Fuel, Benefits and Industry. If it means reintroduc­ing Corporal Punishment in our Schools and strict control on parents for unruly behaviour, children have no respect to teaches other pupils and the aged and this is apparent! We need to bring back National Service in order to weed out the ones that don't want to work and the ones that throw in the towel by claiming that they are disabled and can't work. The ones that play the system are given the choice, No Benefits and then they will have a life living in a purpose built establishm­ent in which they have to contribute for their own survival. Our Prisons have become Holiday Homes for the people that re- offend due to them not being able to fit in to society, why should the public have to feed these people?? We have to change and change we must as we are on the road to nowhere other than Civil War.
01:48 AM on 12/31/2011
Sadly another MP pandering to populist ill thought out opinion. Human rights protect everybody. They are your freedoms and rights too. Only when we have lost it will we know what we have lost. Instead perhaps spend some energy making sure your MP's are working towards freeing it's citizens from the live to work trap most of us are in rather than cheap shots at those without a voice (ditto single mothers, benefits scroungers etc etc). Since much of modern Britain was built on the sweat of immigrants (the nhs, the transport network to name but a couple), we might perhaps be a bit grateful for all they have bought to our economy and country. Perhaps as a thank you to those people you might want to use your time to raise objections with Miss Doyle-Price about children held in immigration camps, and that's just for starters. Other injustices done in the name of government controls too many to mention at this time.
10:18 PM on 12/27/2011
New Labour under the leadership of Messrs Phoney Blair and Incapability Brown totally lost control of our borders and allowed millions of immigrants (both legal and illegal) to enter and stay.

Until such time that we remain in the EU our borders will continue to be open to all and sundry.

The quicker that we are allowed a referendum on our membership of the EU and our tollerance of the European Court of Human Rights the quicker the citizens of the UK will be able to decide on the best way forward.
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Fred Bronson
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11:39 PM on 12/21/2011
Why do you have to reform any thing?? these people are breaking the law they have no rights they are here illegally!!!!!!!! bottom line...... if you look at it in real world this is an invation of a foreign country and we could look at it as war and drive these people out our selfs if the goverment will not.....
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Fred Bronson
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11:34 PM on 12/21/2011
if this was an American doing the same to an hispanic you would not live to see the border, and if these hispanics were muslims it would not be going unnoticed. it has to stop. turn in your employer, refuse to hire companies that have illegals working for them. call ICE every day if you have to. report to the IRS, there are several thing you can do to stop these people.
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11:31 PM on 12/21/2011
If the lid is not removed from this issue it could explode.
10:06 PM on 12/21/2011
Whilst I agree that the UK's present open door immigration policy is creating great strain, there is another factor - internal population growth. There is little point controlling entry at our ports if we are not also controlling entry through our birth canals. What is needed is a government with guts to introduce a policy of restricting familes to two - ideally one - child.
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Paul Wagland
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08:00 PM on 12/21/2011
I agree that convicted criminals and justifiably-rejected applicants should be deported, and that the system may need to be made more robust. There are things in this article I don't like though.

Ms Doyle-Price offers some anecdotes from her own experience, many of which are reported third-hand and all of which are negative. Some immigrants are beneficial to the UK, others are not - we need to know the balance and we need to know how to improve it in the UK's interest.

I have researched the balance myself recently, and government studies suggest that overall, immigration has a small but positive effect on the UK's economy - that's despite the undoubted illegal drains. There are also unquantifiable benefits like the diversification of our culture - the effect on our food, music, literature and so on.

Overall I find this piece to be irrational and xenophobic. The statement that "we have allowed levels of migration beyond the point that our society can manage" is ridiculous.
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novelist2000
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03:34 AM on 12/21/2011
The root of the situation is the Refugee Convention which creates de-facto open borders. Anybody anywhere can say they are persecuted because of this that and the other or even arrange for it by saying and doing what the system takes offence to.

When the Convention was drawn up, there were only 2 billion people in the world, not 7. It is hopelessly antiquated and if we are not careful, our few pockets of civilisation will soon look like you know what. Why is it not possible to modify an international agreement when it is no longer workable? In Australia many people now demand a referendum on exiting the Refugee Convention, because there just too many gatecrashers.

Afghanistan will always have problems because their mulitplication rate creates a lot of people who can never be absorbed into economic activity.
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09:37 PM on 12/20/2011
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07:12 PM on 12/20/2011
The U.K. has a much better immigration process than the U.S. Perhaps the humanity part of this article would be to improve communication with how these people are used, all the time, without a constant fear of them being deported, all the time.
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Alva Vargas
07:03 PM on 12/21/2011
WHAT!??! Greedy employers welcome illegals because of cheap labor so illegals come to take the jobs because the US dollar is worth more in their country. It's a business for them people! Before illegals get here they already know via the cell phone to their illegal network in the US who hires illegals so when they get here they already have a job waiting for them. They have had over two decades to perfect this enterprise they have going and have been getting away with because our immigration laws are broken and "not enforced"! This political correctness is Bull....!??! They broke the law by illegally entering our country and they need to be prosecuted and deported, period! They have bound together to protest along with special interest groups to demand rights they are not entitled to and the democrats are fighting to help give them amnesty for political votes. Don't lose your perspective, I don't want to live in a land of lawlessness and mess the illegals have braught with them and are forcing us to live with. The last time I checked this was America, not Mexico!
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dtairtime
It is what it is
05:22 PM on 12/20/2011
There are about 4 BILLION people in the world living in abject poverty.

Take in ten million a year and this number will not change but likely even continue to go up.

There are at least that many people who are suffering some form of human rights violations that are serious in nature.

Take in ten million a year and again that number will not change.

The problems are far far larger then immigration as a solution can ever address. The people in these countries continue to reproduce as though there are no problems. The problems will never be addressed as long as the few people who would likely be the catalyst for change in these countries move to other countries. Allowing a few to run away from their problems while the overwhelming majority have to endure them is NOT an answer or a solution.