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Three Yeses on Europe; No to Cameron's Long Run of Misery

Posted: 23/01/2013 19:53

What does the next five years of British politics look like, according to David Cameron?

On the basis of yesterday morning's speech, there's only one political issue - one long, grinding debate, in Britain and across Europe, as he tries, to entirely reshape not just Britain's relationship with the other 26 members of the EU, but to entirely reshape the nature of that institution to being a free trade club.

Other issues - the issues that are of pressing concern to the British people - the 2.49 million unemployed, the one in 10 underemployed workers, the one in five workers on less than a living, and those who fear joining them - have to play second fiddle. (And of course the whole referendum pack of cards assumes that he's going to win the next election - a very large assumption indeed...)

You'd be tempted to think that, despite his recent protestations, Mr Cameron doesn't want the electorate to focus on the slashing in real terms of benefit payments, the continual erosion of funding to local government for essential local services, and the total failure of his Chancellor's Plan A for the economy, under which by a mysterious process of alchemy the slicing of funds from the public sector was supposed to produce a private sector boom.

As Philip Stephens said in the Financial Times, with a considerable sense of restraint: "It is hard to imagine how such uncertainty will enhance the UK's influence and prosperity."

Nonetheless, in calling for a referendum, Cameron does have a point. The Green Party believes in democracy and self-determination. On important issues like this - and let's not forget that withdrawing from the EU would have mammoth effects (just consider that we produce only 51% of our own food and the rely on Europe for the vast bulk of the rest) - voters should be given the opportunity to express a clear view.
So in the Green Party, we say 'Yes' to a referendum on Europe. No one under the age of 55 has had an opportunity to vote on our relationship with Europe, despite many promises in recent years. Self-determination shouldn't be restricted to the Scots. We even agree with Mr Cameron on the need for change in the EU - but we believe that it should be 180 degrees in the opposite direction to the kind of changes that he is proposing. The working time directive, which he holds up as a point to get out of, we applaud. He wants to reshape the EU even further towards being a playground for multinational companies and bankers, at the expense of its economic and social security.

The role of Europe should be to provide guaranteed decent, substantial foundations on workers' rights and consumer protections, on environmental standards, on human rights and peace, the basic conditions of life on which Britain was once a world leader. It can be difficult for nations to compete against others that are undercutting these rights - the answer is not to abolish them, but to fight to establish them as global standards, and making them standards in the whole of Europe is a great place to start.

And on issues of banking regulation, on the financial transactions tax, given that Westminster has shown itself unable to rein-in the excesses of the City, it needs all of the help it can get. Europe has made slow and uncertain progress on these issues since 2008, but it has done better than London.

So yes for change in Europe - but to a kind of Europe that isn't a giant institution, bearing down on peoples and nations from above (as it has born down particularly oppressively on the Greeks), but one that provides a supportive foundation, on the basis of which local people can make decisions for themselves as locally as possible - it's known as subsidiarity, and is there in the principles of the EU, just not applied as often as it should be.

And we say yes to staying within Europe - working together with our fellow states in a cooperative framework, not a storming high dudgeon or a take-it-or-leave it blackmail style, a la David Cameron. We need to continue to work with our European partners to build strong, locally democratic communities that decide their own way within the framework of strong, guaranteed standards.

Yes, yes, yes to a better European future - no to David Cameron's way.

 

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DJPotterWriter
01:43 PM on 01/25/2013
A legally-binding in-or-out EU referendum should be held after the Scottish independence referendum but before the next general election (obviously, if Scotland votes for independence, Scotland should be excluded from the EU referendum). That also gives the government some time for its alleged repatriation of powers. Cameron's promise is empty not least because the Conservatives won't win a majority in 2015. Cameron couldn't win in 2010 against the most unpopular Prime Minister in the history of opinion polls, who'd led the country into the worst economic crisis since the 1930s, who was being undermined by his own Cabinet, and who was subjected to a frenzy of media hatred. Presiding over a still-disastrous economy, and now with a reputation for toffishness and imposing 'harsh' government cuts, how could the Conservatives possibly win a majority in 2015? Even if/when Scotland is excluded from UK general elections (which seems unlikely for 2015, whichever way Scotland's referendum goes), the Conservatives have little chance.

As for the virtue of referendums, the problem is, the three main parties all essentially oppose a referendum and can't be trusted on the issue. The only real choice is UKIP, but one might not agree with UKIP's other policies, UKIP has not reached the point of standing in every constituency and is extremely unlikely to win a majority in any general election in the foreseeable future. Since most voters have never had the chance to vote on this issue, the time has therefore come.
12:57 PM on 01/25/2013
What do these Green party lunatics know about real life?

In April our electricity bills are set to double as a result of a new carbon tax that this type of activist has brought about.

These people are paralysing our economy and driving us into a situatioin where we live like third world occupants, whilst emerging economies eclipse us.

How many more people will die because of being unable to afford heating in the UK as a direct result of the influence of this type of person?

My advice to you dear, is go and take your lobbying to China, and good riddance if you do!
Yes the very same country that your ilk lauds for it's rapid industrialization.!
The very same one that now build's a new coal fired power station every fortnight.
I'm sure they will show you the appropriate response!

I am sick to death of hearing politician's like this one, lecture the public on energy use, whilst they live in large well heated houses and work in tropically heated government offices and are driven around at the states expense in large gas guzzling luxury vehicles.
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barrysturn
Ut Veniant Omnes
11:22 PM on 01/24/2013
Astonishing, I agree with the Green Party! Yes we need to stay in Europe and yes it must be reformed. The dictatorial powers of the Commission need to be curbed but not to hand them over to someone else, including our own dodgy government.
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Ben Wilson
What's the story mourning Tories?
07:21 PM on 01/24/2013
While Europe is an important issue, it's also a politcal cul-de-sac and one has wonder what we are being distracted from.
02:15 PM on 01/25/2013
We are being distracted from the fact that the Green's have managed to have a green tax introduced in April that will double the cost of energy for domestic consumers.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
02:05 PM on 01/24/2013
Cameron is struggling badly in the polls, and the promise of a referendum is simply a bribe to a worryingly nationalistic electorate.

European politics do need to be made more efficient and effective, but a union is the best insurance against being swamped by up and coming economic powers like China and Brazil.
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hearthammer
If left is right and right is wrong, decide!
03:13 PM on 01/24/2013
While I agree with you, the problem in my view, is that Cameron is appealing to the uneducated yob culture.I guess it's a case of "who do you want to run the country?" Is it those who think they have a right to, or those who just don't think at all? Hobson's choice.
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Paul Wagland
Resistance is fertile
03:18 PM on 01/24/2013
Personally, I'd choose Angela Merkel.
12:37 PM on 01/24/2013
Yes, "voters should be given the opportunity to express a clear view," but not via a referendum. The issues are too complex, and we elect and pay a government to understand them and do what is good for the country. A referendum is political abdication of responsibility. In addition, referenda, as we have often seen in the past, are much too susceptible to the efforts of scaremongerers; they don't even have to tell the truth (and often they don't) the mud sticks and people vote accordingly.
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barrysturn
Ut Veniant Omnes
11:14 PM on 01/24/2013
An excellent intelligent comment!..so rare on these posts
07:35 AM on 01/25/2013
That was my immediate reaction too. Reading the comments on so many of the discussions on the EU (and many others) is too often just trawling through abusive and badly informed posts infused with hatred and prejudice. OF COURSE we must stay in Europe! To do anything else would be completely against our national interests. Far better to work from within to change and improve than to stand on the sidelines scrabbling to keep up. It's a long time since our Empire stretched over so much of the planet - those who think we can trade meaningfully with the rest of the world on our own are just fantasists. A referendum on this subject would be all about which red top newspaper could print the most outrageous tosh to influence the most people - and all done for the not-so-hidden agenda of our foreign Press Barons - not a reasoned and educated debate so people could make a rational judgement. It doesn't bear thinking about.