LOUD & PROUD: 'EastEnders' Boss Dominic Treadwell-Collins Reveals 'No Gay Agenda, Just Kindness'

'EastEnders' has been on the front foot in highlighting characters from diverse backgrounds.

'EastEnders' boss Dominic Treadwell-Collins has revealed that the BBC duty logs reveal homophobia to be as rife as it was a decade ago, during an exclusive panel conversation with Huffington PostUK.

Watch Dominic in conversation above, as part of our Loud & Proud panel, alongside Phillip O’Ferrall, Alan Carr and Ben Thompson 

Dominic was speaking as part of our Loud & Proud series, when he explained:

"I was at EastEnders 10 years ago, and each day we get the Duty Log where people write in to say what they think about the programme. The Duty Log responses have not changed now to how they were 10 years ago, when people said, ‘I threw up my dinner, I had to sit my seven year old down and explain to them that this was wrong.’"

Dominic added his belief that it isn't the younger generations responding negatively to LGBT storylines in the square. He said: "I think a lot of the kids growing up, they don’t have any of these preconceptions, it’s the parents. They’re the people going, 'This is wrong.'"

As part of our Loud & Proud series, we’ve been celebrating how TV soaps have been instrumental in bringing gay characters to mainstream entertainment in the UK, with actors given primetime storylines that have promoted tolerance, empathy and greater understanding of the lives of the LGBT community. 

One of the key figures in that extraordinary progress is Dominic, who has steered his Albert Square characters through storylines demanding both for characters and viewers. But he says his mission has NEVER been simply a "gay one". 

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Syed Mashood, played by Marc Elliot, became the first character in 'EastEnders' to marry a woman, then a man
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He explains: "It’s the job of the producer to be inclusive, and I think it’s about kindness, it’s about making the world a kinder place.

"For me, when I took over 'EastEnders', I said, ‘Right I want a girl in a hijab who ends up having a stillborn baby’ and we did that story, no one mentioned the fact she was wearing a hijab, it was a mother with a baby, and that was important. Danny Dyer, who the audience saw as this big gruff man, his son came out to him within a month of Danny being on screen, and he put his arm around his son and said, ‘I love you, you’re my boy, I don’t care.’ And that was as much for little boys watching at home the Colin and Barry effect ('EastEnders' first ever gay pairing back in the 1980s), but also for men like Danny Dyer, who hold Danny Dyer up on a pedestal, thinking, ‘If he did it, so can I.’ 

Dominic, with the rest of the panel, was quick to point out that the strength of the storylines become meaningless if viewers feel they are being fed quotas or token figures so that someone, somewhere, can tick the box marked diversity. By example, he cites the storyline of Syed Masood, a character who struggled with the conflict between his emerging gay sexuality and his Muslim faith, as he falls in love with another man, Christian. 

"They fell in love, and it was meant to be just a love story," remembered Dominic. "And while it was going on and everyone was wondering whether they’d get together or not, my grandma who’s 80, set in her ways, came up to me and said, ‘Are they going to get together? I really want them to be happy.’

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When Mick Carter (Danny Dyer) learned his son was gay, Dominic realised that would reach viewers who could easily see themselves in Mick
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"That’s the job of these shows, is they’re people like us, they’re not gay, no one thinks about their colour, they’re just people, and that is the strength of a show like 'EastEnders', it’s going to millions of people in their living rooms, and you can’t be didactic, but you want to change a few people’s opinions.

Dominic added that all his characters, primarily, must have a story: "I don’t wake up in the morning and go, ‘Today I’m going to be gay.’ That’s not the driving force of my day. It’s the last thing I think about. And that’s been very important to me in my time at 'EastEnders'.

 "You have to sit back and go, okay, what stories do I want to tell? I want to reflect modern Britain and I want to change people’s opinions."

During the same panel, comedian Alan Carr added on the same subject, how important the character of Hayleigh Cropper had become during her time on 'Coronation Street', after initially being introduced as a transgender character. 

"Everyone rolled their eyes, here we go, someone ticking a box, we need a transgender," he recalled. "But as the years have gone on, when she died, everyone was in bits, that’s how it should be. If you force it, you tell people they're going to like gays and lesbians, if you say that, we become a joke. You can’t force people, but you can do it through storylines, and openness."

 

 

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Loud&Proud: Pioneers Who Paved The Way
Playwright, Novelist, Essayist and Poet Oscar Wilde(01 of32)
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“On November 13th, 1895, I was brought down here from London. From two o’clock till half-past two on that day I had to stand on the centre platform of Clapham Junction in convict dress, and handcuffed, for the world to look at. I had been taken out of the hospital ward without a moment’s notice being given to me. When people saw me they laughed. Each train as it came up swelled the audience. Nothing could exceed their amusement. That was, of course, before they knew who I was. As soon as they had been informed, they laughed still more. For half an hour I stood there in the grey November rain surrounded by a jeering mob."For a year after that was done to me I wept every day at the same hour and for the same space of time."
Writer and raconteur Quentin Crisp(02 of32)
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"The rest of the world in which I lived was still stumbling about in search of a weapon with which to exterminate this monster [homosexuality] whose shape and size were not yet known or even guessed at. It was thought to be Greek in origin, smaller than socialism but more deadly, especially to children."
Novelist Christopher Isherwood(03 of32)
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"I'm glad people have had crushes on me, glad I used to be cute; it is a very sustaining feeling."
Noel Coward(04 of32)
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"There will be books proving conclusively that I was homosexual and books proving equally conclusively that I was not. There will be detailed and inaccurate analyses of my motives for writing this or that and of my character. There will be lists of apocryphal jokes I never made and gleeful misquotations of words I never said.What a pity I shan't be here to enjoy them!"
Film director John Schlesinger(05 of32)
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According to his friend Alan Bennett, John was so aware of his sexuality that he managed to detect a corresponding awareness in the unlikeliest of places. On this occasion HMQ had a momentary difficulty getting the ribbon round his sizeable neck, whereupon she said "Now, Mr.Schlesinger, we must try and get this straight," the emphasis according to John very much hers and which he took as both a coded acknowledgement of his situation and a seal of royal approval.
Knight of the theatre, Sir John Gielgud(06 of32)
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...writing to thank his friend Cecil Beaton for supporting him in the face of a homosexuality criminal charge:"The miracle is that my friends have stood by me so superbly, and even the public looks like letting me go on with my work. Both things would not have been so 20 years ago (though I don't think either the press would have been so cruelly open)." (This letter was written in 1953).
Film Director Terence Davies(07 of32)
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"I have hated being gay, and I've been celibate for most of my life. Some people are just good at sex, and others aren't; I'm one of them who isn't. I'm just too self-conscious."
Film star Rock Hudson(08 of32)
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... the all-American wholesome star who shocked the world with his revelation that he had contracted HIV, just months before he died in 1985. Joan Rivers said:"Two years ago, when I hosted a benefit for AIDS, I couldn't get one major star to turn out. ... Rock's admission is a horrendous way to bring AIDS to the attention of the American public, but by doing so, Rock, in his life, has helped millions in the process. What Rock has done takes true courage."
Author and screenwriter Alan Bennett(09 of32)
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on not coming out before:"My objection about people knowing more about one's private life was that I didn't want to be put in a pigeonhole. I didn't want to be labelled as gay and that was it. I just wanted to be my own man, as it were."He also once joked about being asked whether he was gay or straight, "That's a bit like asking a man crawling across the Sahara whether he would prefer Perrier or Malvern water."
Stephen Fry(10 of32)
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"I would never apologise for feeling the way I do"
Actor Rupert Everett(11 of32)
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... who came out as gay in the 1980s:"It's not that advisable to be honest. It's not very easy. And, honestly, I would not advise any actor necessarily, if he was really thinking of his career, to come out... The fact is that you could not be, and still cannot be, a 25-year-old homosexual trying to make it in the British film business or the American film business or even the Italian film business. It just doesn't work and you're going to hit a brick wall at some point. You're going to manage to make it roll for a certain amount of time, but at the first sign of failure, they'll cut you right off."
Sir Ian McKellen(12 of32)
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... on coming out in 1988 at the age of 49:"I regret and always shall that I didn't see the significance of coming out at a much earlier date because I think I would have been a different person and a happier one. Self-confidence is the most important thing that anybody can have. You don't have that if part of you is ashamed or hiding something."
EastEnders star turned campaigner Lord Michael Cashman(13 of32)
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"I don't consider myself a role model. I consider that I have to be me. Because death, as I saw with (late partner) Paul, comes as a friend and when I meet that friend I want to know that I have been as true to myself and as true to Paul as I can possibly ever have been."
TV and radio presenter Kenny Everett(14 of32)
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His friend and co-star on Kenny's coming out in the 1980s:"Kenny had never really came to terms with being gay and always thought he was letting people down due to his Catholic upbringing.I later discovered what a burden had been lifted from his shoulders."
Star Trek's George Takei(15 of32)
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"It's not really coming out, which suggests opening a door and stepping through. It's more like a long, long walk through what began as a narrow corridor that starts to widen."
Actor John Barrowman(16 of32)
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...told Huffington Post UK:“When I was in my early twenties. a big US TV company brought me in and they said, ‘We don’t want you to tell anyone you’re gay. I was so confused, it was only when I got home, I realised they meant not referring to Scott, which meant not talking about my life outside the show, to anyone, ever. I wasn’t put on earth to be political, but I wasn’t prepared to lie, so that changed everything for me. I couldn’t be something I wasn’t.”
Ellen DeGeneres(17 of32)
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... came out on her TV show: "What I had been saying to myself was, ‘Would I still be famous, would they still love me if they knew I was gay?' And my fear was that no, no they wouldn’t, and then it made me feel ashamed that I was hiding something. It made me feel ashamed that I couldn’t feel honest and really be who I am, and I just didn’t want to pretend to be somebody else anymore so that people would like me.”
'Coronation Street' creator Tony Warren(18 of32)
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"The outsider sees more, hears more, has to remember more to survive. All that is terrific training for a writer."
TV and radio host Graham Norton(19 of32)
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“This will sound sexist but that doesn’t mean it’s any less true. If I were a straight man, my female partner would have a role in the eyes of society. She would be the mother of my children, my hostess, the person on my arm at red carpet events. She would have a defined function. But that’s not the case if your partner is male. Every man – no matter how young or fey – has something of the alpha in him. Increasingly that puts a strain on the relationship."
Julian Clary(20 of32)
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"People see innuendo when I buy a tin of beans."
Pop star Will Young(21 of32)
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On being out from the start, he tells Huffington Post UK: “It was important for me not to walk around living a lie. The biggest decision – to come out – had already happened. What was potentially scary was coming out publicly, because it was a different time, and I could have lost everything.“What worked for me was the cushion I had, that people had already voted for me, and I think they wouldn’t have liked a mirror shone back on them, that they’d liked somebody but then turned their back.”
Writer Russell T Davies(22 of32)
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... tells Huffington Post UK:“We grew older. The world grew and changed and expanded.“Other people have been fighting that huge battle for equality, that story’s written. Now it’s time to fine out who we really are - and catch up on the rest of the world by a few thousand years.”
David Bowie(23 of32)
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"I think I was always a closet heterosexual."
1980s pop star Marc Almond(24 of32)
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“We’ve seen so many gay characters on film, in television, in comedy and music recently, and when there’s a big explosion like that it seems there’s always a backlash. People do feel very threatened by it. Homophobia is always there."
Bronski Beat's Jimmy Somerville(25 of32)
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“I guess it’s up to the individual to sing and write that but I don’t believe for one minute that none of those artists have a desire to sing ‘he’ or ‘him’. But we’ll never really know if they did decide to change that, if they would be as successful.”
Boy George(26 of32)
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In the 1980s, speaking out on sex:"I'd rather have a cup of tea."Asked again by Huffington Post UK in 2014:"Only if it's Earl Grey. I've changed."
Frankie Goes To Hollywood frontman Holly Johnson(27 of32)
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“It is important for each successive generation to have something to relate to that their parents find shocking. Frankie provided that, and also an essential function, for not only for that reason, but also in bringing forward alternative sexuality, in a way that was particularly uncompromising, no asking for acceptance, up yours if you don’t like it."
kd lang(28 of32)
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... as described by Madonna:"Elvis is alive, and she's beautiful."
George Michael(29 of32)
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...on being outed in an LA public toilet:"Believe me, I'd rather have run up and down Oxford Street saying 'I'm gay, I'm gay', than have it happen the way it did."
Freddie Mercury(30 of32)
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... on coming out in the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody, according to friend Sir Tim Rice:“'Mama, I just killed a man' - he’s killed the old Freddie, his former image."With 'Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger, now he’s dead' he’s dead, the straight person he was originally. He’s destroyed the man he was trying to be, and now this is him, trying to live with the new Freddie."
Beth Ditto(31 of32)
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"Artists are human beings. They have families, they have their own issues with their sexuality, their own shit to deal with. I think when people see other people in the public eye they think there is an element of social responsibility. But you can’t really understand [their position] unless you’re in that person’s shoes. It’s not that simple. Because the public isn’t going to console you when your family are disowning you. I don’t think that’s fair. I don’t think it can ever be that black and white."
Oscar winner Sam Smith(32 of32)
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"I want to dedicate this to the LGBT community around the world. I stand here tonight as a proud gay man and I hope that we can all stand as equals one day.”