LOUD & PROUD: Oscar Winner Dustin Lance Black On His Journey From Despair To Inspiration

The Oscar winner grew up being taught that homosexuality was akin to murder.
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Dustin Lance Black may be a Hollywood writer and producer with an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay to his name, he may be the totally loved-up fiancé of Olympic diving favourite Tom Daley but, as he tells HuffPostUK in this exclusive interview for our Loud and Proud series, as a younger man he experienced a time of great fear, sadness and self-loathing that caused him to have suicidal thoughts, and it is this that now propels him to share his stories on screen of inspiration and hope with as many people as possible.

Black tells HuffPostUK how his strict Mormon upbringing within a military family in Texas instilled in him a sense of almost superstition about his sexuality as he lived out his teenage years in San Francisco. He tells us:

“I was about 15 years old when I moved to the Bay area. At that point, for eight or nine years, all I’d had were negative messages from the church about going to hell. From the military environment, it’d been made clear that I was definitely somebody to be excluded and, being from the South, that I would bring shame to my family if any body found out.

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Dustin Lance Black won an Oscar for his screenplay for the film 'Milk', about the activist and politician Harvey Milk, whose story he says "saved his life"
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“So I thought if I fell in love, I would go to hell, bring shame to my family, be bashed or be killed. That removes the possibility of love from someone’s entire life and replaces it with shame. As a young kid, you start to contemplate solutions for making this living thing shorter, I certainly did, and I know I’m not alone.

“If you look to the LGBT organisations, they’ll tell you that LGBT young people are four times more likely to attempt suicide, and nine times more likely if they come from an unaccepting environment.

"There were just no hopeful messages.”

For Black, it was slowly immersing himself in the theatre world of San Francisco, starting to mix with openly gay men that opened his mind to the prospect of a happier life, and finally hearing the story of gay politician and activist Harvey Milk that inspired him to live the life he wanted.

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Sean Penn (right) played Harvey Milk in the film penned by Dustin Lance Black
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“I’d heard about this guy creating a world where it was possibly to be gay. All of a sudden, I realised I’d never heard one thing like that in my entire upbringing," he remembers. 

“That wasn’t an idea that had existed in Texas in the 1980s. I’d never heard that, I’d just seen Rock Hudson on a stretcher, with the message that being gay will make you sick like this."

With the story of Harvey Milk, the gay activist turned politician, Black started to see a way out of the misery. 

He says: “You start to put hope in a place where shame has lived for a long time, and it’s life-changing. Life-saving, I’d go so far as to say.

"I was very lucky to hear the story of Harvey Milk, it was life-saving for me. I wanted to share it in case it helped others, but the story of one gay man isn’t going to do it.

"Until recently, Hollywood wasn’t there to support a production of easily accessible hero journeys for LGBT people. I think it’s incredibly important for young people who, as they come of age and might start hearing negative messages about who they are, that they also have a history of their forefathers and foremothers that they can draw inspiration from.

"There are many more stories we need to tell."

For our Loud and Proud series, we've asked many people what their first memory of gay culture was, and for some it was the Brookside kiss, others it was 'Will and Grace'. However, for Dustin Lance Black in his Mormon community in Texas, it was a very different situation. 

"We had hardly any TV or film back then," he remembers. "The first time culturally I thought about anything gay was when they beamed in the Mormon prophet by screen on special Sundays in church.

"I was about six years old, and he started talking about homosexuality, and it was very scary, the tone in the room became sombre, people were uncomfortable, and he equated homosexuality with murder.

"I already knew what the words meant, because I grew up in Texas, where people were using the words all the time as pejoratives. I knew what he was talking about, and I already knew I had a crush on my brother’s best friend, so I’m thinking he’s talking about me, he thinks I’m equivalent to a murderer.

"It wasn’t mass culture, it wasn’t TV or film, because we weren’t getting that in a military Mormon household in Texas, and so all I knew was what the bearded Mormon prophet told me by satellite.

"I loved my family, so I thought I’d better keep it quiet, and not let anybody know, or let that into the house."

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Dustin is now engaged to British diver Tom Daley
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Ironically, it was his Mormon upbringing that led to Black getting his first big career break, as a writer on HBO series 'Big Love', about a polygamous Mormon family. For many years, he was moved to tell the story of Harvey Milk, for which he wrote a script that Gus Van Sant went on to direct. In 2009, Black received the Academy Award for his screenplay, wearing a white knot on his tie in support of LGBT rights. 

He says now of that breakthrough: "'Milk' had to be a financial success, following the success of 'Brokeback Mountain'. It had to make money so studios would develop other LGBT projects. I don’t mind helping them make their money. Now I make commercials with Coca-Cola and they’re only after my gay dollar (the US trade term for the hugely lucrative gay market), but if they help me get my message out to markets like Uganda and Russia..." he smiles "I will make you a gay commercial."

Besides all this, Black is a tireless activist, serving on the board of the American Foundation for Equal Rights. So is he a storyteller with good material, or a campaigner finding his way to people's hearts through prose?

"It depends on the day," he responds. "I didn’t start by telling gay stories, it was Mormon stories, but it’s always ‘write what you know’, that’s what I teach. I say to my pupils, 'You can pitch me any thing you’ve got, but tell me why you’re the only person who can write it in the world. Keep digging…’ By that same principle, 'gay' is one of the things I have in my toolbox, there’s a lot more."

Indeed there is. Now, with his Oscar on the shelf, a blooming personal life and so many battles won, the fear and self-loathing that accompanied his childhood must seem a lifetime ago. However, it is clear that, not only does Dustin Lance Black remember them keenly, the epiphany is what inspires him still...

"All of a sudden, I wasn’t thinking, how can I hide, how can I survive? I realised I could move to LA, and start telling stories.

"You start to have purpose and hope, it’s so simple, and yet it could so easily have slipped through my grip."

Loud&Proud: Pioneers Who Paved The Way
Playwright, Novelist, Essayist and Poet Oscar Wilde(01 of32)
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“On November 13th, 1895, I was brought down here from London. From two o’clock till half-past two on that day I had to stand on the centre platform of Clapham Junction in convict dress, and handcuffed, for the world to look at. I had been taken out of the hospital ward without a moment’s notice being given to me. When people saw me they laughed. Each train as it came up swelled the audience. Nothing could exceed their amusement. That was, of course, before they knew who I was. As soon as they had been informed, they laughed still more. For half an hour I stood there in the grey November rain surrounded by a jeering mob."For a year after that was done to me I wept every day at the same hour and for the same space of time."
Writer and raconteur Quentin Crisp(02 of32)
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"The rest of the world in which I lived was still stumbling about in search of a weapon with which to exterminate this monster [homosexuality] whose shape and size were not yet known or even guessed at. It was thought to be Greek in origin, smaller than socialism but more deadly, especially to children."
Novelist Christopher Isherwood(03 of32)
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"I'm glad people have had crushes on me, glad I used to be cute; it is a very sustaining feeling."
Noel Coward(04 of32)
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"There will be books proving conclusively that I was homosexual and books proving equally conclusively that I was not. There will be detailed and inaccurate analyses of my motives for writing this or that and of my character. There will be lists of apocryphal jokes I never made and gleeful misquotations of words I never said.What a pity I shan't be here to enjoy them!"
Film director John Schlesinger(05 of32)
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According to his friend Alan Bennett, John was so aware of his sexuality that he managed to detect a corresponding awareness in the unlikeliest of places. On this occasion HMQ had a momentary difficulty getting the ribbon round his sizeable neck, whereupon she said "Now, Mr.Schlesinger, we must try and get this straight," the emphasis according to John very much hers and which he took as both a coded acknowledgement of his situation and a seal of royal approval.
Knight of the theatre, Sir John Gielgud(06 of32)
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...writing to thank his friend Cecil Beaton for supporting him in the face of a homosexuality criminal charge:"The miracle is that my friends have stood by me so superbly, and even the public looks like letting me go on with my work. Both things would not have been so 20 years ago (though I don't think either the press would have been so cruelly open)." (This letter was written in 1953).
Film Director Terence Davies(07 of32)
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"I have hated being gay, and I've been celibate for most of my life. Some people are just good at sex, and others aren't; I'm one of them who isn't. I'm just too self-conscious."
Film star Rock Hudson(08 of32)
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... the all-American wholesome star who shocked the world with his revelation that he had contracted HIV, just months before he died in 1985. Joan Rivers said:"Two years ago, when I hosted a benefit for AIDS, I couldn't get one major star to turn out. ... Rock's admission is a horrendous way to bring AIDS to the attention of the American public, but by doing so, Rock, in his life, has helped millions in the process. What Rock has done takes true courage."
Author and screenwriter Alan Bennett(09 of32)
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on not coming out before:"My objection about people knowing more about one's private life was that I didn't want to be put in a pigeonhole. I didn't want to be labelled as gay and that was it. I just wanted to be my own man, as it were."He also once joked about being asked whether he was gay or straight, "That's a bit like asking a man crawling across the Sahara whether he would prefer Perrier or Malvern water."
Stephen Fry(10 of32)
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"I would never apologise for feeling the way I do"
Actor Rupert Everett(11 of32)
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... who came out as gay in the 1980s:"It's not that advisable to be honest. It's not very easy. And, honestly, I would not advise any actor necessarily, if he was really thinking of his career, to come out... The fact is that you could not be, and still cannot be, a 25-year-old homosexual trying to make it in the British film business or the American film business or even the Italian film business. It just doesn't work and you're going to hit a brick wall at some point. You're going to manage to make it roll for a certain amount of time, but at the first sign of failure, they'll cut you right off."
Sir Ian McKellen(12 of32)
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... on coming out in 1988 at the age of 49:"I regret and always shall that I didn't see the significance of coming out at a much earlier date because I think I would have been a different person and a happier one. Self-confidence is the most important thing that anybody can have. You don't have that if part of you is ashamed or hiding something."
EastEnders star turned campaigner Lord Michael Cashman(13 of32)
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"I don't consider myself a role model. I consider that I have to be me. Because death, as I saw with (late partner) Paul, comes as a friend and when I meet that friend I want to know that I have been as true to myself and as true to Paul as I can possibly ever have been."
TV and radio presenter Kenny Everett(14 of32)
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His friend and co-star on Kenny's coming out in the 1980s:"Kenny had never really came to terms with being gay and always thought he was letting people down due to his Catholic upbringing.I later discovered what a burden had been lifted from his shoulders."
Star Trek's George Takei(15 of32)
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"It's not really coming out, which suggests opening a door and stepping through. It's more like a long, long walk through what began as a narrow corridor that starts to widen."
Actor John Barrowman(16 of32)
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...told Huffington Post UK:“When I was in my early twenties. a big US TV company brought me in and they said, ‘We don’t want you to tell anyone you’re gay. I was so confused, it was only when I got home, I realised they meant not referring to Scott, which meant not talking about my life outside the show, to anyone, ever. I wasn’t put on earth to be political, but I wasn’t prepared to lie, so that changed everything for me. I couldn’t be something I wasn’t.”
Ellen DeGeneres(17 of32)
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... came out on her TV show: "What I had been saying to myself was, ‘Would I still be famous, would they still love me if they knew I was gay?' And my fear was that no, no they wouldn’t, and then it made me feel ashamed that I was hiding something. It made me feel ashamed that I couldn’t feel honest and really be who I am, and I just didn’t want to pretend to be somebody else anymore so that people would like me.”
'Coronation Street' creator Tony Warren(18 of32)
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"The outsider sees more, hears more, has to remember more to survive. All that is terrific training for a writer."
TV and radio host Graham Norton(19 of32)
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“This will sound sexist but that doesn’t mean it’s any less true. If I were a straight man, my female partner would have a role in the eyes of society. She would be the mother of my children, my hostess, the person on my arm at red carpet events. She would have a defined function. But that’s not the case if your partner is male. Every man – no matter how young or fey – has something of the alpha in him. Increasingly that puts a strain on the relationship."
Julian Clary(20 of32)
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"People see innuendo when I buy a tin of beans."
Pop star Will Young(21 of32)
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On being out from the start, he tells Huffington Post UK: “It was important for me not to walk around living a lie. The biggest decision – to come out – had already happened. What was potentially scary was coming out publicly, because it was a different time, and I could have lost everything.“What worked for me was the cushion I had, that people had already voted for me, and I think they wouldn’t have liked a mirror shone back on them, that they’d liked somebody but then turned their back.”
Writer Russell T Davies(22 of32)
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... tells Huffington Post UK:“We grew older. The world grew and changed and expanded.“Other people have been fighting that huge battle for equality, that story’s written. Now it’s time to fine out who we really are - and catch up on the rest of the world by a few thousand years.”
David Bowie(23 of32)
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"I think I was always a closet heterosexual."
1980s pop star Marc Almond(24 of32)
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“We’ve seen so many gay characters on film, in television, in comedy and music recently, and when there’s a big explosion like that it seems there’s always a backlash. People do feel very threatened by it. Homophobia is always there."
Bronski Beat's Jimmy Somerville(25 of32)
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“I guess it’s up to the individual to sing and write that but I don’t believe for one minute that none of those artists have a desire to sing ‘he’ or ‘him’. But we’ll never really know if they did decide to change that, if they would be as successful.”
Boy George(26 of32)
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In the 1980s, speaking out on sex:"I'd rather have a cup of tea."Asked again by Huffington Post UK in 2014:"Only if it's Earl Grey. I've changed."
Frankie Goes To Hollywood frontman Holly Johnson(27 of32)
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“It is important for each successive generation to have something to relate to that their parents find shocking. Frankie provided that, and also an essential function, for not only for that reason, but also in bringing forward alternative sexuality, in a way that was particularly uncompromising, no asking for acceptance, up yours if you don’t like it."
kd lang(28 of32)
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... as described by Madonna:"Elvis is alive, and she's beautiful."
George Michael(29 of32)
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...on being outed in an LA public toilet:"Believe me, I'd rather have run up and down Oxford Street saying 'I'm gay, I'm gay', than have it happen the way it did."
Freddie Mercury(30 of32)
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... on coming out in the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody, according to friend Sir Tim Rice:“'Mama, I just killed a man' - he’s killed the old Freddie, his former image."With 'Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger, now he’s dead' he’s dead, the straight person he was originally. He’s destroyed the man he was trying to be, and now this is him, trying to live with the new Freddie."
Beth Ditto(31 of32)
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"Artists are human beings. They have families, they have their own issues with their sexuality, their own shit to deal with. I think when people see other people in the public eye they think there is an element of social responsibility. But you can’t really understand [their position] unless you’re in that person’s shoes. It’s not that simple. Because the public isn’t going to console you when your family are disowning you. I don’t think that’s fair. I don’t think it can ever be that black and white."
Oscar winner Sam Smith(32 of32)
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"I want to dedicate this to the LGBT community around the world. I stand here tonight as a proud gay man and I hope that we can all stand as equals one day.”

HuffPost UK is turning Loud & Proud. Over the next fortnight, we'll be celebrating how gay culture has influenced and, in turn, been embraced by all fields of entertainment, inspiring cinema-goers, TV audiences, music-lovers and wider society with its wit, creativity and power of expression.

Through features, video and blogs, we'll be championing those brave pioneers who paved the way, exploring the broad range of gay culture in British film, TV and music and asking - what is left to be done? If you’d like to blog on our platform around these topics, please emailukblogteam@huffingtonpost.com with a summary of who you are and what you’d like to blog about